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Veo Observer behind Firewall
I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine.
If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). If I try doing this internally on my network (http://192.168.1.125:5777) everything works fine. Even if I open up port 80, it still gives the same message. I am using a D-link 614+ Firewall/router. Does anyone have any ideas? I tried to get to the Veo site today, but it was dead. So here is the next best thing! - Rob K - I changed the port used to view to (for example) 5770. Then on my Firewall/Router, I have NAT direct ports 5770 and 1600 to the IP address of my Veo. When I go to my web site (http://www.example.com:5700) I see the Veo web page. I click the button to sign on, and I do get the signon popup. But when I click ok to sign on, I get an error saying something about the ports |
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"Rob K" wrote in message
om... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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Thnks for suggestion Giorgio
now works fine would have been helpfut had VEO explained it On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:33 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Rob K" wrote in message . com... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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Can you access a single frame image from veo observer? i.e. something
like http://yourip:1601/image.jpg In article , WIlliam C Tidwell 111 wrote: Thnks for suggestion Giorgio now works fine would have been helpfut had VEO explained it On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:33 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Rob K" wrote in message . com... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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"Lothar" wrote in message
... Can you access a single frame image from veo observer? i.e. something like http://yourip:1601/image.jpg I am currently using Webcam Watcher Pro from Beausoft at http://www.beausoft.com/ It is a complete product but it is not cheap at $99.00 for a single Veo Observer webcam license. With it, however, you can do pretty much anything you'd want your Veo Observer. Giorgio In article , WIlliam C Tidwell 111 wrote: Thnks for suggestion Giorgio now works fine would have been helpfut had VEO explained it On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:33 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Rob K" wrote in message . com... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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What I want to do can't be done from a pc based webcam program. I'm
using a remote server to access still images, so I'm still wanting to know if still images can be accessed directly. http://iport/images.jpg for example In article , "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Lothar" wrote in message ... Can you access a single frame image from veo observer? i.e. something like http://yourip:1601/image.jpg I am currently using Webcam Watcher Pro from Beausoft at http://www.beausoft.com/ It is a complete product but it is not cheap at $99.00 for a single Veo Observer webcam license. With it, however, you can do pretty much anything you'd want your Veo Observer. Giorgio In article , WIlliam C Tidwell 111 wrote: Thnks for suggestion Giorgio now works fine would have been helpfut had VEO explained it On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:33 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Rob K" wrote in message . com... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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"Lothar" wrote in message
... What I want to do can't be done from a pc based webcam program. I'm using a remote server to access still images, so I'm still wanting to know if still images can be accessed directly. http://iport/images.jpg for example You probably need to contact Veo directly for this (but I've heard that their support is not, shall we say, "the best"). They do supply a library of calls for you to write your own software (that is how Webcam Watcher Pro was written, I am told). In any case the camera does not "keep" images, it just sends the current image to the calling program. Therefore you will have to have a PC or other box sitting somewhere "between" the camera and you that will store the images for you as they are received by the camera. You will then be able to access this box remotely as you described above ( http://iport/images.jpg ) if you install a web server on the box and have it point to the directory where the images are stored. Hope this helps... Giorgio In article , "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Lothar" wrote in message ... Can you access a single frame image from veo observer? i.e. something like http://yourip:1601/image.jpg I am currently using Webcam Watcher Pro from Beausoft at http://www.beausoft.com/ It is a complete product but it is not cheap at $99.00 for a single Veo Observer webcam license. With it, however, you can do pretty much anything you'd want your Veo Observer. Giorgio In article , WIlliam C Tidwell 111 wrote: Thnks for suggestion Giorgio now works fine would have been helpfut had VEO explained it On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:33 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Rob K" wrote in message . com... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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Thanks. I appreciate your attempt to answer my question. I guess I'll
have to contact the manufacturer. Do you have one of these webcams up and running somewhere? I'd like to see how good the image is, how it works etc. In article , "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Lothar" wrote in message ... What I want to do can't be done from a pc based webcam program. I'm using a remote server to access still images, so I'm still wanting to know if still images can be accessed directly. http://iport/images.jpg for example You probably need to contact Veo directly for this (but I've heard that their support is not, shall we say, "the best"). They do supply a library of calls for you to write your own software (that is how Webcam Watcher Pro was written, I am told). In any case the camera does not "keep" images, it just sends the current image to the calling program. Therefore you will have to have a PC or other box sitting somewhere "between" the camera and you that will store the images for you as they are received by the camera. You will then be able to access this box remotely as you described above ( http://iport/images.jpg ) if you install a web server on the box and have it point to the directory where the images are stored. Hope this helps... Giorgio In article , "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Lothar" wrote in message ... Can you access a single frame image from veo observer? i.e. something like http://yourip:1601/image.jpg I am currently using Webcam Watcher Pro from Beausoft at http://www.beausoft.com/ It is a complete product but it is not cheap at $99.00 for a single Veo Observer webcam license. With it, however, you can do pretty much anything you'd want your Veo Observer. Giorgio In article , WIlliam C Tidwell 111 wrote: Thnks for suggestion Giorgio now works fine would have been helpfut had VEO explained it On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:33 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Rob K" wrote in message . com... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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E-mail me personally with a proper return e-mail address
bounced) and I'll give you more details on my setup (remove the "*no_spam*" from the e-mail address given). "Lothar" wrote in message ... Thanks. I appreciate your attempt to answer my question. I guess I'll have to contact the manufacturer. Do you have one of these webcams up and running somewhere? I'd like to see how good the image is, how it works etc. In article , "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Lothar" wrote in message ... What I want to do can't be done from a pc based webcam program. I'm using a remote server to access still images, so I'm still wanting to know if still images can be accessed directly. http://iport/images.jpg for example You probably need to contact Veo directly for this (but I've heard that their support is not, shall we say, "the best"). They do supply a library of calls for you to write your own software (that is how Webcam Watcher Pro was written, I am told). In any case the camera does not "keep" images, it just sends the current image to the calling program. Therefore you will have to have a PC or other box sitting somewhere "between" the camera and you that will store the images for you as they are received by the camera. You will then be able to access this box remotely as you described above ( http://iport/images.jpg ) if you install a web server on the box and have it point to the directory where the images are stored. Hope this helps... Giorgio In article , "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Lothar" wrote in message ... Can you access a single frame image from veo observer? i.e. something like http://yourip:1601/image.jpg I am currently using Webcam Watcher Pro from Beausoft at http://www.beausoft.com/ It is a complete product but it is not cheap at $99.00 for a single Veo Observer webcam license. With it, however, you can do pretty much anything you'd want your Veo Observer. Giorgio In article , WIlliam C Tidwell 111 wrote: Thnks for suggestion Giorgio now works fine would have been helpfut had VEO explained it On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:49:33 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli" wrote: "Rob K" wrote in message . com... I have a Veo Observer, and have it working fine. If I set the ports 80 (http) and 1600 (video according to veo) on my firewall to route to my Veo, I can access it from the outside world. However, if I go into the Veo Observer setup utility, and change the "http" port of my veo to 5777 (for eample), then things don't quite work. If I go to my site on port 5777 (http:www.test.com:5777) I get the first Veo web page. I click "english" and I do get the Veo sign-on popup. I type in my UserID and Password, and click login, then I get an error saying "...1. Network connection is not established. 2. Make sure the camera port is not blocked. (Default http port:80, Video port:1600). As far as I can tell with my Wireless Veo Observer, it works only with ports 80-89 (which means video 1600-1609) and not higher numbers like 5777, but I could be wrong. Try on your private LAN to change the http port and see just how high you can go (89, 90, 100, etc) and still get the video stream. Also, for internet access, keep in mind that if you change your http port to 81 and open port 81 on your firewall, make sure you also open port 1601. Good luck. Giorgio |
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:20:39 +0100, "Giorgio Ungarelli"
wrote: In any case the camera does not "keep" images, it just sends the current image to the calling program. Therefore you will have to have a PC or other This is exactly what I've been trying to warn people about. It will NOT be possible to use this camera for webcam pages. There are no built-in FTP functions that will deliver a static image to a web server. Veo advertises itself as a streaming network camera, and that's exactly what it is. As a general lesson to everyone, make sure that when you're considering a network camera to DOUBLE CHECK that it will FTP images, that it will FTP images at a rate of 1 per minute (for a time one would FTP every single image from the live stream with no way to control that rate), and that it will produce a "base" file name which a static webcam page can be coded to embed. For example "current-image.jpg". Realize that the manufacturers of network cams appear to assume that nearly everyone who purchases one wants to provide live streaming or utilize live streaming to monitor things remotely. Indeed, many of us do. However, while network camera manufacturers appear fixated on the live streaming, the other 50% of what we want is the ability to provide a static image for a traditional web cam page. Even the network cameras that DO allow for this seem to make light of it in their product manuals. To me, as it may be to the person who asked this question, it is far more important to be able to deliver an FTP image to a webcam page for presentation than it is to stream video. I wouldn't BUY a network camera because it streams, I would buy it because it operates as its own device, thereby freeing up the CPU and memory resources on my desktop PC. I'd use network cameras because I could standardize the cameras I use since network cameras allow for 255 of them to be installed. In other words, I'd buy it because it's a NETWORK camera, not a STREAMING camera. I would, therefore, expect that it would operate like a tethered webcam in every other way. The Veo is strictly a video streamer. It's even a GOOD one. But if you're looking to provide images to a webcam page with static images, the Veo won't do it. Be careful! Dave |
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