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(OT?) Athlon 64?
Perhaps I have picked the wrong time to think about building
a new machine? I presently have an Athlon XP2600+ which I thought about giving to one of my children. HOWEVER....... There is at present no Windows 64 Bit operating system nor any usable (for me) 64 Bit programs YET the cost of a 64 Bit system is not much greater that another "XP" system. So what's the up-side to getting a 64 Bit processor now? Thanks Xeno |
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(OT?) Athlon 64?
"Xeno Chauvin" wrote in message ... Perhaps I have picked the wrong time to think about building a new machine? I presently have an Athlon XP2600+ which I thought about giving to one of my children. HOWEVER....... There is at present no Windows 64 Bit operating system nor any usable (for me) 64 Bit programs YET the cost of a 64 Bit system is not much greater that another "XP" system. So what's the up-side to getting a 64 Bit processor now? Thanks Xeno Superior performance and cooler operation (if you select a 90Nm Winchester CPU) right now with 32 bit software. Also, the production release of Win XP 64 bit is imminent. |
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(OT?) Athlon 64?
Peter van der Goes wrote:
"Xeno Chauvin" wrote in message ... Perhaps I have picked the wrong time to think about building a new machine? I presently have an Athlon XP2600+ which I thought about giving to one of my children. HOWEVER....... There is at present no Windows 64 Bit operating system nor any usable (for me) 64 Bit programs YET the cost of a 64 Bit system is not much greater that another "XP" system. So what's the up-side to getting a 64 Bit processor now? Thanks Xeno Superior performance and cooler operation (if you select a 90Nm Winchester CPU) right now with 32 bit software. Also, the production release of Win XP 64 bit is imminent. Linux supports 64-bit computing... However I just read an article on Dr. Dobbs journal regarding 64-bit performance. The article basically says there is no real performance increase in 64-bit processing. The main benefit to 64-bit computing is that you can address larger amounts of memory; very usefull in database applications that are loaded into memory. Matt |
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(OT?) Athlon 64?
Matias Silva wrote:
Peter van der Goes wrote: "Xeno Chauvin" wrote in message ... Perhaps I have picked the wrong time to think about building a new machine? I presently have an Athlon XP2600+ which I thought about giving to one of my children. HOWEVER....... There is at present no Windows 64 Bit operating system nor any usable (for me) 64 Bit programs YET the cost of a 64 Bit system is not much greater that another "XP" system. So what's the up-side to getting a 64 Bit processor now? Thanks Xeno Superior performance and cooler operation (if you select a 90Nm Winchester CPU) right now with 32 bit software. Also, the production release of Win XP 64 bit is imminent. Linux supports 64-bit computing... However I just read an article on Dr. Dobbs journal regarding 64-bit performance. The article basically says there is no real performance increase in 64-bit processing. The main benefit to 64-bit computing is that you can address larger amounts of memory; very usefull in database applications that are loaded into memory. Matt Also 64-bit also adds for greater floating point accuracy... so if your using Excel to balance your check book then its not worth it. But if your doing graphics rendering and high end computational mathematics where accuracy is key, then go 64-bit. Matt Matt |
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(OT?) Athlon 64?
"Matias Silva" wrote in message ... Linux supports 64-bit computing... However I just read an article on Dr. Dobbs journal regarding 64-bit performance. The article basically says there is no real performance increase in 64-bit processing. The main benefit to 64-bit computing is that you can address larger amounts of memory; very usefull in database applications that are loaded into memory. Matt I was referring to the performance of the CPU itself. Ignoring 32 vs. 64 bit issue, the A64 processors outperform their AXP predecessors and other contenders. Perhaps you intended to respond to the OP? |
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(OT?) Athlon 64?
Yes. The A64 outperforms the XP in 32 bit. One of the reasons is that the
memory controller is on the CPU itself,unlike other cpu's that must access the northbridge chip first. But, replacing an XP 2600+ with say, an A64 2800+ wouldn't be woth the cost. Going to a 3500+ or 3700+ porobably would be a decent speed increase. All this really only applies to newer 3D games and video editing. Anything else has plenty of headroom on an XP 2600+ "Peter van der Goes" wrote in message news:Zok3e.40206$Fy.33595@okepread04... "Matias Silva" wrote in message ... Linux supports 64-bit computing... However I just read an article on Dr. Dobbs journal regarding 64-bit performance. The article basically says there is no real performance increase in 64-bit processing. The main benefit to 64-bit computing is that you can address larger amounts of memory; very usefull in database applications that are loaded into memory. Matt I was referring to the performance of the CPU itself. Ignoring 32 vs. 64 bit issue, the A64 processors outperform their AXP predecessors and other contenders. Perhaps you intended to respond to the OP? |
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(OT?) Athlon 64?
Peter van der Goes wrote:
"Matias Silva" wrote in message ... Linux supports 64-bit computing... However I just read an article on Dr. Dobbs journal regarding 64-bit performance. The article basically says there is no real performance increase in 64-bit processing. The main benefit to 64-bit computing is that you can address larger amounts of memory; very usefull in database applications that are loaded into memory. Matt I was referring to the performance of the CPU itself. Ignoring 32 vs. 64 bit issue, the A64 processors outperform their AXP predecessors and other contenders. Perhaps you intended to respond to the OP? Yes and No, I was responding to you regarding the last thing you said "Also, the production release of Win XP 64 bit is imminent." and I responded saying that "Linux supports 64-bit computing." That was my pitiful attempt in support of Linux The latter portion of my comments where directed to the OP so that he would have more information when he goes to make his buying decision. It seems he just uses computers just to do basic stuff, write an email, balance his check book, maybe play a few video games, who knows. On Newegg theres a nice little Athlon XP 3200 for $140 that would be decent for a basic computer. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-390&depa=0 However, if your(referring to the original poster) basic need it is to furnish your son with a computer and you don't require that much more horsepower, then I would get AthlonXP. Cache sizes are the same as some 64bit procs, however power consumption is more, but the price is just right, cheap. I would look to increase performance in other areas like I/O (Hard drives) and RAM. Best Regards, Matt |
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:41:21 -0700, Matias Silva wrote:
On Newegg theres a nice little Athlon XP 3200 for $140 that would be decent for a basic computer. Waste of money.. Socket A is dead. If one wanted to spend that much on a cpu, an A64 would be a much better choice. The best bang for the buck is probably the 2800+ A64 right now for about $110. It'll oveclock above 2500MHz which would give it about a 4000+ rating. If one had or wanted to stick with socket A, the XP-M would be a much smarter choice. Since it has an unlocked multiplier, you can clock it up to 2400MHz even on an old socket A board with only a 100MHz FSB. Newegg has the 2400+XP-M for $76. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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