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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? Former I think
I've seen the threads elsewhere but I just want to make su clean
install is the way to go. But I hope my Office 2010 can be reinstalled on my Win7 machine, if it has the same hardware as it did when I installed in under Vista--I don't see why not, as only the OS will change from Vista to 7. Likewise for all my other programs save the Kaspersky antivirus and firewall, which I will scrap in favor of the built in Windows 7 Firewall and AV package. I'll have to reinstall certain older programs like PeachTree and others but that's life. Also Win 7 is 15% faster on the same hardware as Vista says PC Mag. Not sure if it's faster than XP but nowadays many programs, like Visual Studio 2010 and the Azure toolkit, require Vista or 7 so that's moot for me. Anything else? RL |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? Former I think
RayLopez99 wrote:
I've seen the threads elsewhere but I just want to make su clean install is the way to go. But I hope my Office 2010 can be reinstalled on my Win7 machine, if it has the same hardware as it did when I installed in under Vista--I don't see why not, as only the OS will change from Vista to 7. Likewise for all my other programs save the Kaspersky antivirus and firewall, which I will scrap in favor of the built in Windows 7 Firewall and AV package. I'll have to reinstall certain older programs like PeachTree and others but that's life. Also Win 7 is 15% faster on the same hardware as Vista says PC Mag. Not sure if it's faster than XP but nowadays many programs, like Visual Studio 2010 and the Azure toolkit, require Vista or 7 so that's moot for me. Anything else? Yes. You have posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Your post belongs in alt.windows7.general |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? FormerI think
On 11/6/2010 4:34 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
I've seen the threads elsewhere but I just want to make su clean install is the way to go. But I hope my Office 2010 can be reinstalled on my Win7 machine, if it has the same hardware as it did when I installed in under Vista--I don't see why not, as only the OS will change from Vista to 7. Likewise for all my other programs save the Kaspersky antivirus and firewall, which I will scrap in favor of the built in Windows 7 Firewall and AV package. I'll have to reinstall certain older programs like PeachTree and others but that's life. Also Win 7 is 15% faster on the same hardware as Vista says PC Mag. Not sure if it's faster than XP but nowadays many programs, like Visual Studio 2010 and the Azure toolkit, require Vista or 7 so that's moot for me. Anything else? RL Yes, clean install is the way to go. We've seen too many issues with Vista Upgrades. Backup all your personal data, and make sure you have all your disks to reinstall all your programs. Then wipe the hard drive (or the C: partition) using DISKPART from the Windows 7 DVD, or just format it NTFS during the install. Make sure you have all your Windows 7 (32 bit or 64 bit) drivers for your hardware. W7 will install without any need for these at the time - it will find and install it's own drivers for most hardware, but you will want to update the drivers to the most recent version after the installation and device manger is sure to have a couple components that a driver could not be found for. Nitpick: Windows AV (Microsoft Security Essentials) is free but not native to W7. You just download and install afterward. Reinstall Office 2010 and if it does not activate online all it will take is a phone call to MS. Nothing to worry about. If you have any issues with your install just visit us over at SevenForums and someone will help you with any problem you could possibly have. http://www.sevenforums.com/ Good install tutorial he http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...-a.html?filter[2]=General%20Tips |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? Former I think
On Nov 6, 11:15*pm, bbgruff wrote:
Yes. You have posted to *alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Your post belongs in *alt.windows7.general You. You belong to COLA. Stay in your sandbox. Vamos! RL |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? Former I think
On Nov 6, 11:32*pm, TVeblen wrote:
On 11/6/2010 4:34 PM, RayLopez99 wrote: Yes, clean install is the way to go. We've seen too many issues with Vista Upgrades. Backup all your personal data, and make sure you have all your disks to reinstall all your programs. Then wipe the hard drive (or the C: partition) using DISKPART from the Windows 7 DVD, or just format it NTFS during the install. Right. Make sure you have all your Windows 7 (32 bit or 64 bit) drivers for your hardware. W7 will install without any need for these at the time - it will find and install it's own drivers for most hardware, but you will want to update the drivers to the most recent version after the installation and device manger is sure to have a couple components that a driver could not be found for. Well my peripherals drivers were from 2007. I would hope by now W7 has these or even more recent versions, which I can also get online after I load up W7. BTW I had a hell of time installing Vista because of my SATA drives--very complicated, but I managed it. I hope W7 doesn't have the same problem. In theory the drives are self recognizing I think--these were Hitachi drives. Nice drives, quiet, but I had a hard time getting them recognized. Nitpick: Windows AV (Microsoft Security Essentials) is free but not native to W7. You just download and install afterward. So in the meantime, for the half hour or so of setup, you are surfing the internet naked? isn't that about enough time to get infected by a virus? Maybe I'll turn on the built in firewall and take my chances. Reinstall Office 2010 and if it does not activate online all it will take is a phone call to MS. Nothing to worry about. The phone call is what I dread. I think I might have a $5 grey goods copy. But I'll deal with it. Make sure I call using Skype which is somewhat private. If you have any issues with your install just visit us over at SevenForums and someone will help you with any problem you could possibly have. http://www.sevenforums.com/ OK thanks, bookmarked it. RL |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? FormerI think
On 11/7/2010 7:26 AM, RayLopez99 wrote:
On Nov 6, 11:32 pm, wrote: On 11/6/2010 4:34 PM, RayLopez99 wrote: Yes, clean install is the way to go. We've seen too many issues with Vista Upgrades. Backup all your personal data, and make sure you have all your disks to reinstall all your programs. Then wipe the hard drive (or the C: partition) using DISKPART from the Windows 7 DVD, or just format it NTFS during the install. Right. Make sure you have all your Windows 7 (32 bit or 64 bit) drivers for your hardware. W7 will install without any need for these at the time - it will find and install it's own drivers for most hardware, but you will want to update the drivers to the most recent version after the installation and device manger is sure to have a couple components that a driver could not be found for. Well my peripherals drivers were from 2007. I would hope by now W7 has these or even more recent versions, which I can also get online after I load up W7. BTW I had a hell of time installing Vista because of my SATA drives--very complicated, but I managed it. I hope W7 doesn't have the same problem. In theory the drives are self recognizing I think--these were Hitachi drives. Nice drives, quiet, but I had a hard time getting them recognized. Nitpick: Windows AV (Microsoft Security Essentials) is free but not native to W7. You just download and install afterward. So in the meantime, for the half hour or so of setup, you are surfing the internet naked? isn't that about enough time to get infected by a virus? Maybe I'll turn on the built in firewall and take my chances. Reinstall Office 2010 and if it does not activate online all it will take is a phone call to MS. Nothing to worry about. The phone call is what I dread. I think I might have a $5 grey goods copy. But I'll deal with it. Make sure I call using Skype which is somewhat private. If you have any issues with your install just visit us over at SevenForums and someone will help you with any problem you could possibly have.http://www.sevenforums.com/ OK thanks, bookmarked it. RL Hey RL W7 comes with basic drivers - just to avoid the problems they had with Vista. But the retail version was released in Oct 2009 and the drivers will not be any newer than that. In addition, the drivers provided by the component manufacturer, if more recent, will have bug fixes and can sometimes activate advanced capabilities of the device. It's just best practice to be using the most current driver available for your device from the manufacturer. But not always necessary. When I installed W7 I did not install Firefox or browse the web at all until I had installed AV. W7 connecting to Windows Update is not the same as browsing the web! So you will be fine unless you go looking for trouble. You may know this already, but, you should decide what SATA mode you want to use BEFORE the W7 installation. Most people with new SATA drives choose AHCI mode. You need to go into your BIOS and set the Storage Configuration Configure SATA as : to AHCI. It will be IDE by default. While it can be done, it is a pain to change this after W7 installation. Hope that helps. |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? FormerI think
Also Win 7 is 15% faster on the same hardware as Vista says PC Mag.
Not sure if it's faster than XP but nowadays many programs, like Visual Studio 2010 and the Azure toolkit, require Vista or 7 so that's moot for me. Buy a new hard disk and do a clean install. After you copied the data from the old disk to the new disk, the old disk becomes a full backup! -- @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY. / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you! /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.36 ^ ^ 21:50:01 up 12 days 2:58 1 user load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? Former I think
On Nov 7, 3:39*pm, TVeblen wrote:
W7 comes with basic drivers - just to avoid the problems they had with Vista. But the retail version was released in Oct 2009 and the drivers will not be any newer than that. In addition, the drivers provided by the component manufacturer, if more recent, will have bug fixes and can sometimes activate advanced capabilities of the device. It's just best practice to be using the most current driver available for your device from the manufacturer. But not always necessary. OK. The only driver of any consequence will be the video drive for a generic ATI card I have. And the printer driver from HP. When I installed W7 I did not install Firefox or browse the web at all until I had installed AV. W7 connecting to Windows Update is not the same as browsing the web! So you will be fine unless you go looking for trouble. I did not know this. I thought Update was internet access. You may know this already, but, you should decide what SATA mode you want to use BEFORE the W7 installation. Most people with new SATA drives choose AHCI mode. You need to go into your BIOS and set the Storage Configuration Configure SATA as : to AHCI. It will be IDE by default. While it can be done, it is a pain to change this after W7 installation. I did not know this. Perhaps (I'll have to check) my old Vista SATA drive is set up in "legacy" non-AHCI mode. Very interesting, perhaps this is why it took so long to boot Vista. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance...ller_Interface (" Intel recommends choosing RAID mode on their motherboards (which also enables AHCI) rather than AHCI/SATA mode for maximum flexibility, due to the issues caused when the mode is switched once an operating system has already been installed." -- that's interesting--choosing RAID mode when you don't even have RAID?!) RL |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? Former I think
On Nov 7, 3:53*pm, Man-wai Chang wrote:
Also Win 7 is 15% faster on the same hardware as Vista says PC Mag. Not sure if it's faster than XP but nowadays many programs, like Visual Studio 2010 and the Azure toolkit, require Vista or 7 so that's moot for me. Buy a new hard disk and do a clean install. After you copied the data from the old disk to the new disk, the old disk becomes a full backup! Sounds wacko WMC, but I'm perhaps not as experienced as you. I do have two disks, and I use the second one as backup already. And how do you copy data, XCOPY? I'll stick to what I know...the little I know... RL |
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Windows 7 upgrade from Vista: clean install or upgrade? FormerI think
On 11/7/2010 12:50 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
On Nov 7, 3:39 pm, wrote: W7 comes with basic drivers - just to avoid the problems they had with Vista. But the retail version was released in Oct 2009 and the drivers will not be any newer than that. In addition, the drivers provided by the component manufacturer, if more recent, will have bug fixes and can sometimes activate advanced capabilities of the device. It's just best practice to be using the most current driver available for your device from the manufacturer. But not always necessary. OK. The only driver of any consequence will be the video drive for a generic ATI card I have. And the printer driver from HP. When I installed W7 I did not install Firefox or browse the web at all until I had installed AV. W7 connecting to Windows Update is not the same as browsing the web! So you will be fine unless you go looking for trouble. I did not know this. I thought Update was internet access. You may know this already, but, you should decide what SATA mode you want to use BEFORE the W7 installation. Most people with new SATA drives choose AHCI mode. You need to go into your BIOS and set the Storage Configuration Configure SATA as : to AHCI. It will be IDE by default. While it can be done, it is a pain to change this after W7 installation. I did not know this. Perhaps (I'll have to check) my old Vista SATA drive is set up in "legacy" non-AHCI mode. Very interesting, perhaps this is why it took so long to boot Vista. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance...ller_Interface (" Intel recommends choosing RAID mode on their motherboards (which also enables AHCI) rather than AHCI/SATA mode for maximum flexibility, due to the issues caused when the mode is switched once an operating system has already been installed."-- that's interesting--choosing RAID mode when you don't even have RAID?!) RL No. Don't set up RAID unless you are going to use RAID. I don't know why Intel would push that. We've had a lot of folks run into problems with that setup. Just use AHCI. W7 accesses Windows Update over the internet. But if any "website" was going to be secure it would probably be Windows Update! In general, malicious websites and malware don't find you. You find them. |
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