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Old August 21st 05, 04:36 AM
Huserx
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Default Help :) Setting AMD 1333 (Long Specs!)

Greetings and Hello,

I have many times read and found answers among these boards, but this
time I feel I need a little more direct help. I need help properly
setting (clocking) the processor in my old secondary pc for peak
performance and stability. Rather than the default 1g the boards bios
runs it at. I am fairly good with hardware but not very knowledgable
at manually configuring processors.

I know most posts request as much information as possible so here
goes:

Processor Die Information

AMD Athlon
A1333AMS3c
AYHJA0126WPFW
96582440178
®©1999

Information from AMD

A Processor Core Architecture AMD Athlon Processor
1333 Model Number 1333MHz
A Package Type Ceramic
M Operating Temperature 1.75v
S Max Die Temperature 95C
3 Size of L2 Cache 256 Kbyes
C System-Bus 266 MHz

Additional Information

Processor Multiplier 10x
Max Theoretical Thermal Power 70.0w
Max Current (Icc) In Amperes 40.0A
Package Type PGA

Memory

(1) SEITEC 512M DDR-333 MHz CL2.5
(1) Unknown 256M DDR-333 MHz

Mainbaord
SOYO KT-333 Dragon Plus

Chipset Type
VIA KT333CF
Chipset Description
VIA KT333CF / 8235 chipset Supports 266/333 MHz FSB
Graphics Info
AGP slot supporting 4X AGP Adjustable voltage from 1.5v to 1.8v
Memory Type
DDR400/333 SDRAM.
Memory Description
Three DDR 2.5V DIMM sockets support up to 3GB (DDR 333/266/200, 2GB
for DDR 400)
184-pin PC3200/PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 non-ECC, unbuffered DDR SDRAM
memory

Memory Speed CPU/FSB Support

CPU Front side bus---DDR266---DDR333---DDR400
200MHz----------------Yes--------Yes---------No
266MHz----------------Yes--------Yes---------Yes*
333MHz----------------No---------Yes---------Yes**
400MHz----------------No---------No----------Yes

AMD Processor FSB Support

CPU Type------------------Thunderbird
Board Type----------------200MHz---266MHz
KT333 Dragon Plus!-------Yes--------Yes

Maximum AMD CPU Speed Support

Model----------------------Thunderbird
KT333 Dragon Plus!------1.4GHz

BIOS OPTIONS

CPU Frequency Mode
Manual
---Manual Options
-----Frequency 1MHz Stepping (0-255)
-----CPU to PCI Divider /3 /4 /5 /6
100
120
133
140
150
166
200
Auto
DRAM Clock
By Spd
133
166
200
CPU Ratio Select
5X-18X
5.5X-13.5X & 16.5X

CPU Voltage Select
1.850 - 1.475 in .025 increments

DDR (2.5v) Voltage Select
Default
2.6 2.7 2.8

AGP (1.5V) Voltage Select
Default
1.6 1.7 1.8

There are additional memory options available if needed. I hope I have
provided enough information for you to assist me in setting these
options without drowning you in too much detial, for my first post :/

Sincerely

HuserX

Soyo KT333 Dragon Plus!
AMD 1333 Mhz T-Bird
Maxtor 20g 7200RPM HDD
768M DDR Ram
Nvidia TI-4200 64M AGP

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Old August 21st 05, 08:02 AM
Wes Newell
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:36:13 -0400, Huserx wrote:

I need help properly setting (clocking) the processor in my old
secondary pc for peak performance and stability. Rather than the default
1g the boards bios runs it at. I am fairly good with hardware but not
very knowledgable at manually configuring processors.

A1333AMS3c
AYHJA0126WPFW
Memory

(1) SEITEC 512M DDR-333 MHz CL2.5
(1) Unknown 256M DDR-333 MHz

Mainbaord
SOYO KT-333 Dragon Plus

Well, the default for this cpu is 10x133, so for default speed you should
have the FSB and memory bus set at 133Mhz and vcore at 1.75v with a 4 PCI
divider. Assuming you're want to overclock it, raise vcore to 1.85v and
then start raising the FSB speed. If it's still working at 145MHz, change
the PCI divider to 5 before going too much higher to keep the PCI/AGP
buses within specs. If it's not stable at 145, then you might try a PCI
setting of 5 there and test again. Most PCI devices will handle things up
to about 38MHz OK, but some video cards aren't very tolerant once over
70MHz. In any case the default of 10x133 wiill give you a 33% increase
over what you have now if you are only running it at 10x100. you should
need to raise vcore for the defaulkt speed.

--
KT133 MB, CPU @2400MHz (24x100): SIS755 MB CPU @2330MHz (10x233)
Need good help? Provide all system info with question.
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

  #3  
Old August 21st 05, 08:36 PM
uddarts
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"Huserx" wrote:
Greetings and Hello,

I have many times read and found answers among these boards,
but this time I feel I need a little more direct help. I need
help properly setting (clocking) the processor in my old
secondary pc for peak performance and stability. Rather than
the default 1g the boards bios runs it at. I am fairly good
with hardware but not very knowledgable at manually
configuring processors.

I know most posts request as much information as possible so
here goes:

[b:d0bc02b706]Processor Die Information[/b:d0bc02b706]

AMD Athlon
A1333AMS3c
AYHJA0126WPFW
96582440178
®©1999

[b:d0bc02b706]Information from AMD[/b:d0bc02b706]

A Processor Core Architecture AMD Athlon Processor
1333 Model Number 1333MHz
A Package Type Ceramic
M Operating Temperature 1.75v
S Max Die Temperature 95C
3 Size of L2 Cache 256 Kbyes
C System-Bus 266 MHz

[b:d0bc02b706]Additional Information[/b:d0bc02b706]

Processor Multiplier 10x
Max Theoretical Thermal Power 70.0w
Max Current (Icc) In Amperes 40.0A
Package Type PGA

[b:d0bc02b706]Memory[/b:d0bc02b706]

(1) SEITEC 512M DDR-333 MHz CL2.5
(1) Unknown 256M DDR-333 MHz

[b:d0bc02b706]Mainbaord[/b:d0bc02b706]
SOYO KT-333 Dragon Plus

[i:d0bc02b706]Chipset Type[/i:d0bc02b706]
VIA KT333CF
[i:d0bc02b706]Chipset Description [/i:d0bc02b706]
VIA KT333CF / 8235 chipset Supports 266/333 MHz FSB
[i:d0bc02b706]Graphics Info[/i:d0bc02b706]
AGP slot supporting 4X AGP Adjustable voltage from 1.5v to
1.8v
[i:d0bc02b706]Memory Type[/i:d0bc02b706]
DDR400/333 SDRAM.
[i:d0bc02b706]Memory Description [/i:d0bc02b706]
Three DDR 2.5V DIMM sockets support up to 3GB (DDR
333/266/200, 2GB for DDR 400)
184-pin PC3200/PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 non-ECC, unbuffered DDR
SDRAM memory

[b:d0bc02b706]Memory Speed CPU/FSB Support[/b:d0bc02b706]

CPU Front side bus---DDR266---DDR333---DDR400
200MHz----------------Yes--------Yes---------No
266MHz----------------Yes--------Yes---------Yes*
333MHz----------------No---------Yes---------Yes**
400MHz----------------No---------No----------Yes

[b:d0bc02b706]AMD Processor FSB Support[/b:d0bc02b706]

CPU Type------------------Thunderbird
Board Type----------------200MHz---266MHz
KT333 Dragon Plus!-------Yes--------Yes

[b:d0bc02b706]Maximum AMD CPU Speed Support[/b:d0bc02b706]

Model----------------------Thunderbird
KT333 Dragon Plus!------1.4GHz

[b:d0bc02b706]BIOS OPTIONS[/b:d0bc02b706]

CPU Frequency Mode
Manual
---Manual Options
-----Frequency 1MHz Stepping (0-255)
-----CPU to PCI Divider /3 /4 /5 /6
100
120
133
140
150
166
200
Auto
[b:d0bc02b706]DRAM Clock [/b:d0bc02b706]
By Spd
133
166
200
[b:d0bc02b706]CPU Ratio Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
5X-18X
5.5X-13.5X & 16.5X

[b:d0bc02b706]CPU Voltage Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
1.850 - 1.475 in .025 increments

[b:d0bc02b706]DDR (2.5v) Voltage Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
Default
2.6 2.7 2.8

[b:d0bc02b706]AGP (1.5V) Voltage Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
Default
1.6 1.7 1.8

There are additional memory options available if needed. I
hope I have provided enough information for you to assist me
in setting these options without drowning you in too much
detial, for my first post :/

Sincerely

HuserX

Soyo KT333 Dragon Plus!
AMD 1333 Mhz T-Bird
Maxtor 20g 7200RPM HDD
768M DDR Ram
Nvidia TI-4200 64M AGP


vrrrrmmmmmmmm!!!!

are you using a stock amd heatsink? what power supply do you have? do
you still have your manual. if not download one. is this your board?
http://www.soyo.com.tw/products/proddesc.php?id=189

i notice you say it’s running at 1gig. the processor is underclocked
right now. check your manual, there should be a jumper or a setting in
your bios to set the fsb to 133. that would be a start, huh?

get back to me and we will go on.


install these programs.

this one has a dash board that lists temps, voltages, cpu usage, etc.
with a little tweaking it will work well.
motherboard monitor 5
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/

this one will list the cpu, fsb and memory timings.
cpuz
http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php

ud
  #4  
Old August 21st 05, 08:36 PM
Huserx
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are you using a stock amd heatsink?

I am using a coolermaster heatsink similar if not the same as this
one..
[url=http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=produc t&p_serial=DP5-6I31D-0L&other_title=+DP5-6I31D-0L+CPU%20Cooler]Clicky
With Artic Silver 5 Compound



what power supply do you have?


An Antec 350w power supply

do you still have your manual. if not download one. is this your
board? http://www.soyo.com.tw/products/proddesc.php?id=189


Yes it is my board, no I do not have the manual and I get an error if
I try to download either manual..

[url=http://imageshack.us]http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1567/picture000022cy.jpg

...there should be a jumper or a setting in your bios to set the fsb
to 133....


There is a bios setting as illistrated above in my post under Bios
Options CPU Frequency Mode...

I installed MBM prior to this post the closest listing is the KT333
All revisions:

[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture00017bf.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5161/picture00017bf.th.jpg

The dashboard:

[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture00038aw.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1299/picture00038aw.th.jpg

Soyo’s own softwa

[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture00029qt.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7238/picture00029qt.th.jpg


CPU ID presents the following (Also Installed before posting)

[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0012xz.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4767/picture0012xz.th.jpg
[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0022wt.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3449/picture0022wt.th.jpg
[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0037ho.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4415/picture0037ho.th.jpg
[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0047rf.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9056/picture0047rf.th.jpg
[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0052cm.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4108/picture0052cm.th.jpg
[url=http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0066le.jpg]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/182/picture0066le.th.jpg


Thanks Thus Far,

Huserx

Soyo KT333 Dragon Plus!
AMD 1333 Mhz T-Bird
Maxtor 20g 7200RPM HDD
768M DDR Ram
Nvidia TI-4200 64M AGP
  #5  
Old August 21st 05, 08:36 PM
uddarts
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"Huserx" wrote:
[quote:db1b13922a] are you using a stock amd heatsink?
[/quote:db1b13922a]

I am using a coolermaster heatsink similar if not the same as
this one..
Clicky
With Artic Silver 5 Compound



[quote:db1b13922a]what power supply do you
have?[/quote:db1b13922a]

An Antec 350w power supply

[quote:db1b13922a] do you still have your manual. if not
download one. is this your board?
http://www.soyo.com.tw/products/proddesc.php?id=189[/quote:db1b13922a]

Yes it is my board, no I do not have the manual and I get an
error if I try to download either manual..

[img:db1b13922a]http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1567/picture000022cy.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]

[quote:db1b13922a]...there should be a jumper or a setting in
your bios to set the fsb to 133....[/quote:db1b13922a]

There is a bios setting as illistrated above in my post under
Bios Options CPU Frequency Mode...

I installed MBM prior to this post the closest listing is the
KT333 All revisions:

[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5161/picture00017bf.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]

The dashboard:

[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1299/picture00038aw.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]

Soyo's own softwa

[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7238/picture00029qt.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]


CPU ID presents the following (Also Installed before posting)

[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4767/picture0012xz.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]
[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3449/picture0022wt.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]
[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4415/picture0037ho.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]
[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9056/picture0047rf.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]
[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4108/picture0052cm.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]
[img:db1b13922a]http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/182/picture0066le.th.jpg[/img:db1b13922a]


Thanks Thus Far,

Huserx

Soyo KT333 Dragon Plus!
AMD 1333 Mhz T-Bird
Maxtor 20g 7200RPM HDD
768M DDR Ram
Nvidia TI-4200 64M AGP


http://www.soyousa.com/downloads/cou...k7vx4l-v11.pdf

i just grab it from the above link. backup link!
http://www.soyousa.com/downloads/filedesc.php?id=2157

my first suggestion is to enter bios and choose optimal settings/save
and exit. that should get you 10x133=1333. that would be a start. i
see no jumper for 100fsb/133,166 so it has to be bios set. i have a
kt600 ultra and kt880 and they don’t have a jumper either. your
probably running default setting now. going by this info:

"Information from AMD

A Processor Core Architecture AMD Athlon Processor
1333 Model Number 1333MHz
A Package Type Ceramic
M Operating Temperature 1.75v
S Max Die Temperature 95C
3 Size of L2 Cache 256 Kbyes
C System-Bus 266 MHz "

how much does you cpu temp go down when you pop the side of the case
off?

the manual is pretty detailed. if you haven’t found the cmos/bios
clear jumper yet. it’s jp5, bottom/right edge of the board. just for
when things get tricky.


ud
  #6  
Old August 21st 05, 08:36 PM
Huserx
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Hello again,

I downloaded the manual, Thanks for the links..

Resetting the bios to optimum settings to auto set things won’t work
in my case as per the manual..

"If you have a 133MHz FSB Thunderbird CPU, you need to manually set
the CPU Frequency mode in the BIOS."

However I can manually enter 10x and an CPU Freq of 133 what would I
set dram clock to from the looks of the manual also 133 for a 1:1
ratio..

That about right?

how much does you cpu temp go down when you pop the side of the case
off?


After about an hour Idle with the side off the temp dropped 6 degrees
to 43 // 36 the ambient temp in the room about the same as before..

Thanks a Bunch,

Huser


Soyo KT333 Dragon Plus!
AMD 1333 Mhz T-Bird
Maxtor 20g 7200RPM HDD
768M DDR Ram
Nvidia TI-4200 64M AGP
  #7  
Old August 21st 05, 10:36 PM
uddarts
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"Huserx" wrote:
Greetings and Hello,

I have many times read and found answers among these boards,
but this time I feel I need a little more direct help. I need
help properly setting (clocking) the processor in my old
secondary pc for peak performance and stability. Rather than
the default 1g the boards bios runs it at. I am fairly good
with hardware but not very knowledgable at manually
configuring processors.

I know most posts request as much information as possible so
here goes:

[b:d0bc02b706]Processor Die Information[/b:d0bc02b706]

AMD Athlon
A1333AMS3c
AYHJA0126WPFW
96582440178
®©1999

[b:d0bc02b706]Information from AMD[/b:d0bc02b706]

A Processor Core Architecture AMD Athlon Processor
1333 Model Number 1333MHz
A Package Type Ceramic
M Operating Temperature 1.75v
S Max Die Temperature 95C
3 Size of L2 Cache 256 Kbyes
C System-Bus 266 MHz

[b:d0bc02b706]Additional Information[/b:d0bc02b706]

Processor Multiplier 10x
Max Theoretical Thermal Power 70.0w
Max Current (Icc) In Amperes 40.0A
Package Type PGA

[b:d0bc02b706]Memory[/b:d0bc02b706]

(1) SEITEC 512M DDR-333 MHz CL2.5
(1) Unknown 256M DDR-333 MHz

[b:d0bc02b706]Mainbaord[/b:d0bc02b706]
SOYO KT-333 Dragon Plus

[i:d0bc02b706]Chipset Type[/i:d0bc02b706]
VIA KT333CF
[i:d0bc02b706]Chipset Description [/i:d0bc02b706]
VIA KT333CF / 8235 chipset Supports 266/333 MHz FSB
[i:d0bc02b706]Graphics Info[/i:d0bc02b706]
AGP slot supporting 4X AGP Adjustable voltage from 1.5v to
1.8v
[i:d0bc02b706]Memory Type[/i:d0bc02b706]
DDR400/333 SDRAM.
[i:d0bc02b706]Memory Description [/i:d0bc02b706]
Three DDR 2.5V DIMM sockets support up to 3GB (DDR
333/266/200, 2GB for DDR 400)
184-pin PC3200/PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 non-ECC, unbuffered DDR
SDRAM memory

[b:d0bc02b706]Memory Speed CPU/FSB Support[/b:d0bc02b706]

CPU Front side bus---DDR266---DDR333---DDR400
200MHz----------------Yes--------Yes---------No
266MHz----------------Yes--------Yes---------Yes*
333MHz----------------No---------Yes---------Yes**
400MHz----------------No---------No----------Yes

[b:d0bc02b706]AMD Processor FSB Support[/b:d0bc02b706]

CPU Type------------------Thunderbird
Board Type----------------200MHz---266MHz
KT333 Dragon Plus!-------Yes--------Yes

[b:d0bc02b706]Maximum AMD CPU Speed Support[/b:d0bc02b706]

Model----------------------Thunderbird
KT333 Dragon Plus!------1.4GHz

[b:d0bc02b706]BIOS OPTIONS[/b:d0bc02b706]

CPU Frequency Mode
Manual
---Manual Options
-----Frequency 1MHz Stepping (0-255)
-----CPU to PCI Divider /3 /4 /5 /6
100
120
133
140
150
166
200
Auto
[b:d0bc02b706]DRAM Clock [/b:d0bc02b706]
By Spd
133
166
200
[b:d0bc02b706]CPU Ratio Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
5X-18X
5.5X-13.5X & 16.5X

[b:d0bc02b706]CPU Voltage Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
1.850 - 1.475 in .025 increments

[b:d0bc02b706]DDR (2.5v) Voltage Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
Default
2.6 2.7 2.8

[b:d0bc02b706]AGP (1.5V) Voltage Select[/b:d0bc02b706]
Default
1.6 1.7 1.8

There are additional memory options available if needed. I
hope I have provided enough information for you to assist me
in setting these options without drowning you in too much
detial, for my first post :/

Sincerely

HuserX

Soyo KT333 Dragon Plus!
AMD 1333 Mhz T-Bird
Maxtor 20g 7200RPM HDD
768M DDR Ram
Nvidia TI-4200 64M AGP


glad things are improving. if you care to really go for it set your
vcore to the max which i think is 1.85, the vdimm to 2.8v, then set
the fsb on the cpu and ram to 166fsb and see if it goes. if not then
clear the cmos with the jumper and set it back to the way you have it.
if it works you might want to up the fan on the cooler with something
like this.

http://www.directron.com/fanadp.html

http://www.directron.com/a1357.html

you need to run prime95 to check stability but watch the temps.

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm


good luck!

ud
  #8  
Old August 22nd 05, 08:03 AM
Wes Newell
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 15:36:34 -0400, Huserx wrote:

I am using a coolermaster heatsink similar if not the same as this
one..
[url=http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=produc t&p_serial=DP5-6I31D-0L&other_title=+DP5-6I31D-0L+CPU%20Cooler]Clicky
With Artic Silver 5 Compound

Thats' a lousy cpu cooler by todays standards. At the very least replace
the 60x15mm fan with a 60x25mm with more airflow, although I'd just
replace the whole cooler with a TR2-M1 or M3 (not M2) for About $7.

The dashboard:

Your case temp is too high too unless room temp is about 31C.

--
KT133 MB, CPU @2400MHz (24x100): SIS755 MB CPU @2330MHz (10x233)
Need good help? Provide all system info with question.
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
Verizon server http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

 




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