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Armada 4210 - Power on Password



 
 
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Old January 7th 04, 09:07 AM
Pham
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Default Armada 4210 - Power on Password

Never heard of a password being stored on a clock chip before.

Have you tried the reset jumper? It's usually the only jumper right next to
the mainboard battery.

Another thing to try is removing the mainboard completely from the power
supply and remove the mainboard battery. Leave both out for at least 24
hours. My experience with fixing computers and notebooks shows that it can
take that long for the mainboard to discharge it's power.


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Old January 7th 04, 08:14 PM
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Found this in the armada support forum - hint to do more - but what?

"that was easy - found out on my own how to remove it its real simple
- and you do need to remove all the battereys but you do -not- need to
dissamble the laptop there is one more thing to do - its simple - and
as plain as the noise on your face, but you would never guess it -
verry sneek-ey compaq I want to slap my self for being a retard - slap
slap and compaq charges money to do that ??? I wish my job was that
easy"

ANYONE WHO HAS A SOLUTION?

ciao,
Lutz
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Old January 7th 04, 09:04 PM
Trai' La Trash
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24 hours? On any machine I have always pulled the battery and then just hit
the power button to drain the unit.

Never seen the 24 hour wait before. (well except when playing with a
monitor)


"Pham" . wrote in message ...
Never heard of a password being stored on a clock chip before.

Have you tried the reset jumper? It's usually the only jumper right next

to
the mainboard battery.

Another thing to try is removing the mainboard completely from the power
supply and remove the mainboard battery. Leave both out for at least 24
hours. My experience with fixing computers and notebooks shows that it can
take that long for the mainboard to discharge it's power.




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Old January 7th 04, 09:35 PM
Earl F. Parrish
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"LWI" wrote in message
om...
Found this in the armada support forum - hint to do more - but

what?

"that was easy - found out on my own how to remove it its real

simple
- and you do need to remove all the battereys but you do -not-

need to
dissamble the laptop there is one more thing to do - its simple -

and
as plain as the noise on your face, but you would never guess it -
verry sneek-ey compaq I want to slap my self for being a retard -

slap
slap and compaq charges money to do that ??? I wish my job was

that
easy"

ANYONE WHO HAS A SOLUTION?

ciao,
Lutz


After you remove the RTC battery for the require length of time, you
restart the computer without the battery pack installed and using
only the AC adapter. After you successfully boot the computer, turn
it off and put the battery pack back in. You have to set the time
and date when you start after this.

You can see why HP/Compaq would not want to give that information
out freely. Every laptop snatcher would have a working computer.

--
Earl F. Parrish

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Old January 8th 04, 06:21 AM
LWI
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After you remove the RTC battery for the require length of time, you
restart the computer without the battery pack installed and using
only the AC adapter. After you successfully boot the computer, turn
it off and put the battery pack back in.


Tried it after 12 hours. When connecting the AC adapter the computer
starts automaticly. BUT: again
1. 162-system options not set
2. Floppy seek
3. Floppy access (but no start of setup Disk inside)
4. Power-on PW message
5. switch off
6. install bat pack
7. same problem again (like 1-4)

NOT SURE WEATHER ITS MORE THEN ONLY THE PASSWORD BUT SOME BIGGER
HARDWARE PROBLEM. ANY NEW IDEA? THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER BACKDOOR.

ciao,
Lutz
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Old January 8th 04, 04:37 PM
Kevin Childers
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Is there a clear Bios or CMOS P/W jumper?

KC

"LWI" wrote in message
om...
After you remove the RTC battery for the require length of time, you
restart the computer without the battery pack installed and using
only the AC adapter. After you successfully boot the computer, turn
it off and put the battery pack back in.


Tried it after 12 hours. When connecting the AC adapter the computer
starts automaticly. BUT: again
1. 162-system options not set
2. Floppy seek
3. Floppy access (but no start of setup Disk inside)
4. Power-on PW message
5. switch off
6. install bat pack
7. same problem again (like 1-4)

NOT SURE WEATHER ITS MORE THEN ONLY THE PASSWORD BUT SOME BIGGER
HARDWARE PROBLEM. ANY NEW IDEA? THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER BACKDOOR.

ciao,
Lutz



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Old January 10th 04, 07:44 AM
Pham
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Ever fixed a notebook?

Things are designed to use the minimum amount of power possible. I took a
Gateway notebook apart for a friend because he forgot his own password.
There was no BIOS reset switch/button, so the only option I had was to let
the mainboard discharge.

First attempt, I let it discharge for 12 hours; the system still had the
password on. Second attempt, I left it for 24 hours; finally the mainboard
discharged.

Yes I know that desktops and notebooks are designed differently, but nothing
ever works as you planed out.


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Old January 12th 04, 09:50 AM
LWI
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Finaly I got the same experence. After 24 hours it worked the
described way. 12 hours wasn´t enough....

cheers,
LWI
 




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