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AN35N Ultra BIOS Problem??
Hi,
I am having some troulbes getting the AN35N Ultra I bought to recognize my WD 160G/8M HDD. What I have done: -First, I used the WDC Data LifeGuard Tools to partition the new HDD; the tool can see the size as 160G. But when I start to install either Win2k pro or WinXP pro, it only sees it as 31.49G! No matter how I partition it, as one sector or as two or three smaller ones. -Using WinMe bootdisk fdisk doesn't help, either. It also sees it as 32254 MB. -Installing Win2K/WinXP directly without WDC DLT doesn't help either. -I also installed XP SP1a; updated the atapi.sys to 5.1.2600.1135, etc. For each installation, I write all 0s to WD HDD just to make sure I have a clean start. Symptoms: The bootup display shows: Primary Master Disk: LBA,ATA 100, 33821 MB (it should be 160G) Also I can't do ANY OC. The multiplier stays at 11.5. If I change FSB, it will fall back to safe mode (Athlon 1150MHz). The BIOS is AwardBIOS v6.00PG (AN35S00G -6/10/2003). It should be recent enough to see at least 137G, right? I did notice the BIOS ROM SIZE reported as 256K. But the manual says it should be 2M. Why such a small size? Even my very old Celeron400 reported 512K. The BIOS chip on the board reads: PhoenixBIOS D686 BIOS Phoenix 1998 115106460 My system: AMD 2600+ Barton Enermax 350W PS Kingston PC2100/256 x 2 Is the BIOS causing the problem, or is this a bad board? I am really frustrated. This is my first DIY PC. I need your expertise, please help. Thanks, K. W. |
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K. W. wrote:
Hi, I am having some troulbes getting the AN35N Ultra I bought to recognize my WD 160G/8M HDD. What I have done: -First, I used the WDC Data LifeGuard Tools to partition the new HDD; the tool can see the size as 160G. But when I start to install either Win2k pro or WinXP pro, it only sees it as 31.49G! No matter how I partition it, as one sector or as two or three smaller ones. -Using WinMe bootdisk fdisk doesn't help, either. It also sees it as 32254 MB. -Installing Win2K/WinXP directly without WDC DLT doesn't help either. -I also installed XP SP1a; updated the atapi.sys to 5.1.2600.1135, etc. For each installation, I write all 0s to WD HDD just to make sure I have a clean start. Symptoms: The bootup display shows: Primary Master Disk: LBA,ATA 100, 33821 MB (it should be 160G) Also I can't do ANY OC. The multiplier stays at 11.5. If I change FSB, it will fall back to safe mode (Athlon 1150MHz). The BIOS is AwardBIOS v6.00PG (AN35S00G -6/10/2003). It should be recent enough to see at least 137G, right? I did notice the BIOS ROM SIZE reported as 256K. But the manual says it should be 2M. Why such a small size? Even my very old Celeron400 reported 512K. The BIOS chip on the board reads: PhoenixBIOS D686 BIOS Phoenix 1998 115106460 My system: AMD 2600+ Barton Enermax 350W PS Kingston PC2100/256 x 2 Is the BIOS causing the problem, or is this a bad board? I am really frustrated. This is my first DIY PC. I need your expertise, please help. Thanks, K. W. You might want to read this: http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1 Short link: http://tinyurl.com/258p8 If you have a newer CPU (week 39), the multiplier is probably locked. |
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ICee wrote:
K. W. wrote: Hi, I am having some troulbes getting the AN35N Ultra I bought to recognize my WD 160G/8M HDD. What I have done: -First, I used the WDC Data LifeGuard Tools to partition the new HDD; the tool can see the size as 160G. But when I start to install either Win2k pro or WinXP pro, it only sees it as 31.49G! No matter how I partition it, as one sector or as two or three smaller ones. -Using WinMe bootdisk fdisk doesn't help, either. It also sees it as 32254 MB. -Installing Win2K/WinXP directly without WDC DLT doesn't help either. -I also installed XP SP1a; updated the atapi.sys to 5.1.2600.1135, etc. For each installation, I write all 0s to WD HDD just to make sure I have a clean start. Symptoms: The bootup display shows: Primary Master Disk: LBA,ATA 100, 33821 MB (it should be 160G) Also I can't do ANY OC. The multiplier stays at 11.5. If I change FSB, it will fall back to safe mode (Athlon 1150MHz). The BIOS is AwardBIOS v6.00PG (AN35S00G -6/10/2003). It should be recent enough to see at least 137G, right? I did notice the BIOS ROM SIZE reported as 256K. But the manual says it should be 2M. Why such a small size? Even my very old Celeron400 reported 512K. The BIOS chip on the board reads: PhoenixBIOS D686 BIOS Phoenix 1998 115106460 My system: AMD 2600+ Barton Enermax 350W PS Kingston PC2100/256 x 2 Is the BIOS causing the problem, or is this a bad board? I am really frustrated. This is my first DIY PC. I need your expertise, please help. Thanks, K. W. You might want to read this: http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1 Short link: http://tinyurl.com/258p8 If you have a newer CPU (week 39), the multiplier is probably locked. Almost forgot. On the WD drive, there is a position for the jumper for Master, Slave and Only Drive on Cable. Be sure you are using the latter position if that is the only drive on the IDE port. |
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On 4 Jan 2004 18:52:13 -0800, K. W. wrote:
Hi, I am having some troulbes getting the AN35N Ultra I bought to recognize my WD 160G/8M HDD. What I have done: -First, I used the WDC Data LifeGuard Tools to partition the new HDD; the tool can see the size as 160G. But when I start to install either Win2k pro or WinXP pro, it only sees it as 31.49G! No matter how I partition it, as one sector or as two or three smaller ones. -Using WinMe bootdisk fdisk doesn't help, either. It also sees it as 32254 MB. -Installing Win2K/WinXP directly without WDC DLT doesn't help either. -I also installed XP SP1a; updated the atapi.sys to 5.1.2600.1135, etc. For each installation, I write all 0s to WD HDD just to make sure I have a clean start. Symptoms: The bootup display shows: Primary Master Disk: LBA,ATA 100, 33821 MB (it should be 160G) Also I can't do ANY OC. The multiplier stays at 11.5. If I change FSB, it will fall back to safe mode (Athlon 1150MHz). The BIOS is AwardBIOS v6.00PG (AN35S00G -6/10/2003). It should be recent enough to see at least 137G, right? I did notice the BIOS ROM SIZE reported as 256K. But the manual says it should be 2M. Why such a small size? Even my very old Celeron400 reported 512K. The BIOS chip on the board reads: PhoenixBIOS D686 BIOS Phoenix 1998 115106460 My system: AMD 2600+ Barton Enermax 350W PS Kingston PC2100/256 x 2 Is the BIOS causing the problem, or is this a bad board? I am really frustrated. This is my first DIY PC. I need your expertise, please help. Thanks, K. W. 32gb is max for fat32. Is that your prob? http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre...c_fil_lxty.asp hth Kristi |
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"ICee" wrote in message et...
ICee wrote: K. W. wrote: Hi, I am having some troulbes getting the AN35N Ultra I bought to recognize my WD 160G/8M HDD. What I have done: -First, I used the WDC Data LifeGuard Tools to partition the new HDD; the tool can see the size as 160G. But when I start to install either Win2k pro or WinXP pro, it only sees it as 31.49G! No matter how I partition it, as one sector or as two or three smaller ones. -Using WinMe bootdisk fdisk doesn't help, either. It also sees it as 32254 MB. -Installing Win2K/WinXP directly without WDC DLT doesn't help either. -I also installed XP SP1a; updated the atapi.sys to 5.1.2600.1135, etc. For each installation, I write all 0s to WD HDD just to make sure I have a clean start. Symptoms: The bootup display shows: Primary Master Disk: LBA,ATA 100, 33821 MB (it should be 160G) Also I can't do ANY OC. The multiplier stays at 11.5. If I change FSB, it will fall back to safe mode (Athlon 1150MHz). The BIOS is AwardBIOS v6.00PG (AN35S00G -6/10/2003). It should be recent enough to see at least 137G, right? I did notice the BIOS ROM SIZE reported as 256K. But the manual says it should be 2M. Why such a small size? Even my very old Celeron400 reported 512K. The BIOS chip on the board reads: PhoenixBIOS D686 BIOS Phoenix 1998 115106460 My system: AMD 2600+ Barton Enermax 350W PS Kingston PC2100/256 x 2 Is the BIOS causing the problem, or is this a bad board? I am really frustrated. This is my first DIY PC. I need your expertise, please help. Thanks, K. W. You might want to read this: http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1 Short link: http://tinyurl.com/258p8 If you have a newer CPU (week 39), the multiplier is probably locked. Almost forgot. On the WD drive, there is a position for the jumper for Master, Slave and Only Drive on Cable. Be sure you are using the latter position if that is the only drive on the IDE port. Thanks for your input. I did tried two jumper configurations: A. Cable Select, B. Single. The result is the same. The system can see the HDD, yet confined to 32G. As Western Digital installation guide suggested, I tried to set CHS (Access Mode) to 1023, 16 heads, and 63 sectors. But as soon as the system bootup, it just falls back to the following: Capacity 33821 Cylinder 65530 Head 16 Precomp 0 Landing Zone 65529 Sector 63 It doesn't matter whether I set the Access Mode to "Auto" or "CHS", or IDE Primary Master "Auto" or "Manual". These number seems "Locked". Again, is this the BIOS problem? I still don't understand why the BIOS ROM size is so small. But the BIOS version seems quite recent. I saw many positive comments on the Shuttle AN35N Ultra motherboard. But this problem gives me headache. Also, isn't that the motherboard is supposed to unlock the multiplier? K.W. |
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K. W. wrote:
Thanks for your input. I did tried two jumper configurations: A. Cable Select, B. Single. The result is the same. The system can see the HDD, yet confined to 32G. As Western Digital installation guide suggested, I tried to set CHS (Access Mode) to 1023, 16 heads, and 63 sectors. But as soon as the system bootup, it just falls back to the following: Capacity 33821 Cylinder 65530 Head 16 Precomp 0 Landing Zone 65529 Sector 63 It doesn't matter whether I set the Access Mode to "Auto" or "CHS", or IDE Primary Master "Auto" or "Manual". These number seems "Locked". Again, is this the BIOS problem? I still don't understand why the BIOS ROM size is so small. But the BIOS version seems quite recent. I saw many positive comments on the Shuttle AN35N Ultra motherboard. But this problem gives me headache. Also, isn't that the motherboard is supposed to unlock the multiplier? K.W. Have you tried the diagnostic tools from WD, this might help in pointing out where the problem lies. Not familiar with WD but some manufacturers have a jumper on the drive that will restrict access to the first 32gig for compat with older bios`s, does the WD? -- Mark Twixt hill and high water. N.Wales, UK. Email is spam trap try baskitcaise at gmx dot co dot uk |
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baskitcaise wrote in message ...
K. W. wrote: Thanks for your input. I did tried two jumper configurations: A. Cable Select, B. Single. The result is the same. The system can see the HDD, yet confined to 32G. As Western Digital installation guide suggested, I tried to set CHS (Access Mode) to 1023, 16 heads, and 63 sectors. But as soon as the system bootup, it just falls back to the following: Capacity 33821 Cylinder 65530 Head 16 Precomp 0 Landing Zone 65529 Sector 63 It doesn't matter whether I set the Access Mode to "Auto" or "CHS", or IDE Primary Master "Auto" or "Manual". These number seems "Locked". Again, is this the BIOS problem? I still don't understand why the BIOS ROM size is so small. But the BIOS version seems quite recent. I saw many positive comments on the Shuttle AN35N Ultra motherboard. But this problem gives me headache. Also, isn't that the motherboard is supposed to unlock the multiplier? K.W. Have you tried the diagnostic tools from WD, this might help in pointing out where the problem lies. Not familiar with WD but some manufacturers have a jumper on the drive that will restrict access to the first 32gig for compat with older bios`s, does the WD? Yes, I tried diagnostic tools. All tests show the HD is ok. But the Diagnostic tool shows it as 33G, though. But the WD Lifeguard Tool shows it as 160G.) I've gone through the WD suggestions with no avail. As for the BIOS, it is released 6/10/2003. And as you can see, this system uses fairly new hardware recently purchased. Is there any Shuttle AN35N Ultra users out there who can confirm they are putting the right ROM chip (the info provided previously) for my board? I want to know whether this is a WD hard disk problem or the BIOS or a bad motherboard. Thanks, K.W. |
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Kristi wrote in message . ..
On 4 Jan 2004 18:52:13 -0800, K. W. wrote: Hi, I am having some troulbes getting the AN35N Ultra I bought to recognize my WD 160G/8M HDD. What I have done: -First, I used the WDC Data LifeGuard Tools to partition the new HDD; the tool can see the size as 160G. But when I start to install either Win2k pro or WinXP pro, it only sees it as 31.49G! No matter how I partition it, as one sector or as two or three smaller ones. -Using WinMe bootdisk fdisk doesn't help, either. It also sees it as 32254 MB. -Installing Win2K/WinXP directly without WDC DLT doesn't help either. -I also installed XP SP1a; updated the atapi.sys to 5.1.2600.1135, etc. For each installation, I write all 0s to WD HDD just to make sure I have a clean start. Symptoms: The bootup display shows: Primary Master Disk: LBA,ATA 100, 33821 MB (it should be 160G) Also I can't do ANY OC. The multiplier stays at 11.5. If I change FSB, it will fall back to safe mode (Athlon 1150MHz). The BIOS is AwardBIOS v6.00PG (AN35S00G -6/10/2003). It should be recent enough to see at least 137G, right? I did notice the BIOS ROM SIZE reported as 256K. But the manual says it should be 2M. Why such a small size? Even my very old Celeron400 reported 512K. The BIOS chip on the board reads: PhoenixBIOS D686 BIOS Phoenix 1998 115106460 My system: AMD 2600+ Barton Enermax 350W PS Kingston PC2100/256 x 2 Is the BIOS causing the problem, or is this a bad board? I am really frustrated. This is my first DIY PC. I need your expertise, please help. Thanks, K. W. 32gb is max for fat32. Is that your prob? http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre...c_fil_lxty.asp hth Kristi Not really. I use NTFS (I see the cluster size defaulted to 4K.) The problem is the total size available is always 32G no matter how I partition it. In other words, the system sees it as a 32G hard drive. And I lost 128G! K.W. |
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K. W. wrote:
baskitcaise wrote in message ... K. W. wrote: Thanks for your input. I did tried two jumper configurations: A. Cable Select, B. Single. The result is the same. The system can see the HDD, yet confined to 32G. As Western Digital installation guide suggested, I tried to set CHS (Access Mode) to 1023, 16 heads, and 63 sectors. But as soon as the system bootup, it just falls back to the following: Capacity 33821 Cylinder 65530 Head 16 Precomp 0 Landing Zone 65529 Sector 63 It doesn't matter whether I set the Access Mode to "Auto" or "CHS", or IDE Primary Master "Auto" or "Manual". These number seems "Locked". Again, is this the BIOS problem? I still don't understand why the BIOS ROM size is so small. But the BIOS version seems quite recent. I saw many positive comments on the Shuttle AN35N Ultra motherboard. But this problem gives me headache. Also, isn't that the motherboard is supposed to unlock the multiplier? K.W. Have you tried the diagnostic tools from WD, this might help in pointing out where the problem lies. Not familiar with WD but some manufacturers have a jumper on the drive that will restrict access to the first 32gig for compat with older bios`s, does the WD? Yes, I tried diagnostic tools. All tests show the HD is ok. But the Diagnostic tool shows it as 33G, though. But the WD Lifeguard Tool shows it as 160G.) I've gone through the WD suggestions with no avail. As for the BIOS, it is released 6/10/2003. And as you can see, this system uses fairly new hardware recently purchased. Is there any Shuttle AN35N Ultra users out there who can confirm they are putting the right ROM chip (the info provided previously) for my board? I want to know whether this is a WD hard disk problem or the BIOS or a bad motherboard. Thanks, K.W. The BIOS is fine. They call it 2 Mega*bit*, which is 256 Kilo*byte*. In the BIOS, you should have anything to do with IDE drives set to AUTO. Is the drive formatted and is it formatted in FAT or NTFS? FAT has a limit of 32 MB. NTFS has a limit of around 4 Terabytes. |
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ICee wrote:
K. W. wrote: baskitcaise wrote in message ... K. W. wrote: Thanks for your input. I did tried two jumper configurations: A. Cable Select, B. Single. The result is the same. The system can see the HDD, yet confined to 32G. As Western Digital installation guide suggested, I tried to set CHS (Access Mode) to 1023, 16 heads, and 63 sectors. But as soon as the system bootup, it just falls back to the following: Capacity 33821 Cylinder 65530 Head 16 Precomp 0 Landing Zone 65529 Sector 63 It doesn't matter whether I set the Access Mode to "Auto" or "CHS", or IDE Primary Master "Auto" or "Manual". These number seems "Locked". Again, is this the BIOS problem? I still don't understand why the BIOS ROM size is so small. But the BIOS version seems quite recent. I saw many positive comments on the Shuttle AN35N Ultra motherboard. But this problem gives me headache. Also, isn't that the motherboard is supposed to unlock the multiplier? K.W. Have you tried the diagnostic tools from WD, this might help in pointing out where the problem lies. Not familiar with WD but some manufacturers have a jumper on the drive that will restrict access to the first 32gig for compat with older bios`s, does the WD? Yes, I tried diagnostic tools. All tests show the HD is ok. But the Diagnostic tool shows it as 33G, though. But the WD Lifeguard Tool shows it as 160G.) I've gone through the WD suggestions with no avail. As for the BIOS, it is released 6/10/2003. And as you can see, this system uses fairly new hardware recently purchased. Is there any Shuttle AN35N Ultra users out there who can confirm they are putting the right ROM chip (the info provided previously) for my board? I want to know whether this is a WD hard disk problem or the BIOS or a bad motherboard. Thanks, K.W. The BIOS is fine. They call it 2 Mega*bit*, which is 256 Kilo*byte*. In the BIOS, you should have anything to do with IDE drives set to AUTO. Is the drive formatted and is it formatted in FAT or NTFS? FAT has a limit of 32 MB. NTFS has a limit of around 4 Terabytes. Doh! Sorry, that should be 32 GB for FAT formatting. |
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