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I solved a problem today that I have had since I have been building computers.



 
 
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Old January 27th 14, 10:24 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
edfair[_122_]
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Default I solved a problem today that I have had since I have been building computers.


Think you also needed a 5-40.

Occasionally you'll run across a brass screw with nickle plate. They
may stick to the screwdriver, then drop. So if you haven't verifed that
the magnet holds them you are at risk of losing one in the works.

In the 8088/80286 clone days they gave a good number of extras. I've had
to send some to the recycle spot a couple of times.

One day you may run across a 1.44 with 6-32s. Comes as a surprise when
it happens.

Do enough and you will eventually sift them without sizing.


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Old January 27th 14, 11:38 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, Metspitzer wrote:

No more trial and error in screw sizes.

I bought one of each of these (nuts):
6-32 x .25": Used in PC case cover and I/O plates
6-32 x .15": Used to install hard drives
M3 x .25": Used to install floppy drive, CD-ROM drive and motherboard
4-40 x .18": Used in I/O plate connector

Just take apart a scrap computer, and mark the screws so you know what
they were used for.

And one of these:
http://www.toolup.com/empire-level_2...FZDm7AodYkAAhg

Take apart a hard drive and you'll end up with some of the strongest
magnets you'll come across.

Michael

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Old January 27th 14, 11:43 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Metspitzer wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 06:26:07 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 26/01/2014 4:56 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
No more trial and error in screw sizes.

I bought one of each of these (nuts):
6-32 x .25": Used in PC case cover and I/O plates
6-32 x .15": Used to install hard drives
M3 x .25": Used to install floppy drive, CD-ROM drive and motherboard
4-40 x .18": Used in I/O plate connector

And one of these:
http://www.toolup.com/empire-level_2...FZDm7AodYkAAhg


What is the magnet for? To magnetize a screwdriver, so it can pick up
nuts that fall? You can use any standard fridge magnet for that.

Yousuf Khan

I use a fishing tackle box to keep spare screws in. I put the magnet
in one of the spare trays and stick the nuts to them so I can always
find them when I need them.

I was on the lookout for a block of metal that had the 4 holes tapped
to use as a gauge for size, but I couldn't find one. A magnet with
nuts stuck to it is the second best thing.


My tap and die set came with two gauges, one metric one "standard", for
figuring out the threads of a screw or bolt. I would think one could find
those separately.

The thing about threads is that one can get by with other threads, within
some variant, so they may go some of the way but not all or just wear out
the existing threads over time. Then there are self-threading screws.

Michael

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Old January 28th 14, 04:00 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Flasherly[_2_]
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:24:30 -0600, edfair
wrote:

Think you also needed a 5-40.

Occasionally you'll run across a brass screw with nickle plate. They
may stick to the screwdriver, then drop. So if you haven't verifed that
the magnet holds them you are at risk of losing one in the works.

In the 8088/80286 clone days they gave a good number of extras. I've had
to send some to the recycle spot a couple of times.

One day you may run across a 1.44 with 6-32s. Comes as a surprise when
it happens.

Do enough and you will eventually sift them without sizing.


I use as few as possible. My HDs may lay in there with nothing other
than a screw, some ribbons, whatever to prop them up. MBs are about
the only thing spec-secured, PCI slotted cards;- bought a few bags of
large furl-knucled tops, most common thread size, (no female
screw-tips, made for hand-tightening), and they do nicely, a couple to
hold a PS in, one or two for the back of the case to quickly get in.
Fans, and I'll secure whatever size stuffs in there vaguely to fit,
are usually the worst.

Of course, built like, and then with a screw that does occasionally
fall in, say, beheath a MB, and I definately don't like picking up 30,
40lbs., "the works," upside-down and shaking it for the screw to drop
out. Nope, not at all -- enough to gibes me the hebie geebies.
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Old January 29th 14, 04:29 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Loren Pechtel[_2_]
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:26:21 -0500, Flasherly
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:45:20 -0500, Paul wrote:

And if I needed a fastener of the
sort you list, I'd go through the left-overs from those
bags, to see if I had any.


Mine's so large I've 6x6x6" box to hold them (several bags;- I
subcategorizes them )


Go to the hardware and get one of those many-compartment boxes. Ideal
for organizing your screws.
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Old January 29th 14, 06:25 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:29:42 -0800, Loren Pechtel
wrote:

Go to the hardware and get one of those many-compartment boxes. Ideal
for organizing your screws.


You should see the garage. Finding deals for awhile turned into
collecting tools. (Lot of metal oriented, table drills, welders,
grinders, air tools, and various stuff. Not a wood guy.) Seems I'd
buy more tools just to keep the existing tools organized. And I'll
stop a job, totally weirds me out, if I don't knowing -exactly- where
everything I've pulled out for the job setup is located. (Oh, well,
buy and use a tool once from China/Harbor Freight, and it'll usually
pay for itself many times over.)

O - the organizing boxes. Yea, I've got them, couple of big ones,
except they're only storing tear-downs on scavenges on whatever's
worth keeping.

Computers I can build in my sleep.
 




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