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Old September 4th 03, 09:06 PM
Henry
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OK. I'm looking for a laptop computer and I'm totally confused as to the
different mobile processors. In laptops, I have seen Pentium 4, Mobile
Pentium, Pentium M, and Centrino. The Pentium M and Centrino cpu's seem to
be fairly slow, starting at 1.3 Ghz. How do the Centrino cpu's compare to
the other CPU's? ie. Is a Centrino 1.3 equivelant in speed to a 1.3
Pentium 4? Does anyone have any web sites that compare performance of these
different CPU's.

Thanks,

Henry


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Old September 5th 03, 06:56 PM
Mike Smith
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Henry wrote:

OK. I'm looking for a laptop computer and I'm totally confused as to the
different mobile processors. In laptops, I have seen Pentium 4, Mobile
Pentium, Pentium M, and Centrino. The Pentium M and Centrino cpu's seem to
be fairly slow, starting at 1.3 Ghz. How do the Centrino cpu's compare to
the other CPU's? ie. Is a Centrino 1.3 equivelant in speed to a 1.3
Pentium 4? Does anyone have any web sites that compare performance of these
different CPU's.


"Centrino" is not a CPU per se, it is Intel's name for a constellation
of mobile computing parts that includes the Pentium M CPU. The Pentium
M (not to be confused with the Pentium 4-M) has a higher IPC than the
Pentium 4, so a 1.3 GHz Pentium M will be faster than a 1.3 GHz Pentium 4.

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Mike Smith

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Old September 6th 03, 12:20 AM
Yousuf Khan
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"Henry" wrote in message
.rogers.com...
OK. I'm looking for a laptop computer and I'm totally confused as to the
different mobile processors. In laptops, I have seen Pentium 4, Mobile
Pentium, Pentium M, and Centrino. The Pentium M and Centrino cpu's seem

to
be fairly slow, starting at 1.3 Ghz. How do the Centrino cpu's compare to
the other CPU's? ie. Is a Centrino 1.3 equivelant in speed to a 1.3
Pentium 4? Does anyone have any web sites that compare performance of

these
different CPU's.


The Pentium-M and the Centrino are really the same thing. The Centrino
refers to a whole family of chips that surround a Pentium-M processor; if
you have a Pentium-M chip surrounded by this family of Intel chips, then you
have a Centrino laptop. You can also have a Pentium-M chip surrounded by
third party chips not made by Intel, and in that case you don't have a
Centrino laptop, just a laptop with a Pentium-M and other chips.

Now, the Pentium-M runs at slower speed than a Pentium 4-M processor, but it
runs more instructions at once, so it tends to have even overall
performance. A 1.3Ghz Pentium-M or Centrino system would be the equivalent
of a 2.0Ghz Pentium 4-M system.

Yousuf Khan


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Old September 8th 03, 09:05 PM
Henry
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"Mike Smith" wrote in message
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Henry wrote:

OK. I'm looking for a laptop computer and I'm totally confused as to

the
different mobile processors. In laptops, I have seen Pentium 4, Mobile
Pentium, Pentium M, and Centrino. The Pentium M and Centrino cpu's seem

to
be fairly slow, starting at 1.3 Ghz. How do the Centrino cpu's compare

to
the other CPU's? ie. Is a Centrino 1.3 equivelant in speed to a 1.3
Pentium 4? Does anyone have any web sites that compare performance of

these
different CPU's.


"Centrino" is not a CPU per se, it is Intel's name for a constellation
of mobile computing parts that includes the Pentium M CPU. The Pentium
M (not to be confused with the Pentium 4-M) has a higher IPC than the
Pentium 4, so a 1.3 GHz Pentium M will be faster than a 1.3 GHz Pentium 4.

--
Mike Smith


Thank you, I think I'm starting to understand this. The centrino
incorporates several pieces of hardware to become a centrino...including a
Pentium-M cpu.


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Old September 8th 03, 09:08 PM
Henry
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
ogers.com...
"Henry" wrote in message
.rogers.com...
OK. I'm looking for a laptop computer and I'm totally confused as to

the
different mobile processors. In laptops, I have seen Pentium 4, Mobile
Pentium, Pentium M, and Centrino. The Pentium M and Centrino cpu's seem

to
be fairly slow, starting at 1.3 Ghz. How do the Centrino cpu's compare

to
the other CPU's? ie. Is a Centrino 1.3 equivelant in speed to a 1.3
Pentium 4? Does anyone have any web sites that compare performance of

these
different CPU's.


The Pentium-M and the Centrino are really the same thing. The Centrino
refers to a whole family of chips that surround a Pentium-M processor; if
you have a Pentium-M chip surrounded by this family of Intel chips, then

you
have a Centrino laptop. You can also have a Pentium-M chip surrounded by
third party chips not made by Intel, and in that case you don't have a
Centrino laptop, just a laptop with a Pentium-M and other chips.

Now, the Pentium-M runs at slower speed than a Pentium 4-M processor, but

it
runs more instructions at once, so it tends to have even overall
performance. A 1.3Ghz Pentium-M or Centrino system would be the equivalent
of a 2.0Ghz Pentium 4-M system.

Yousuf Khan



Thank you Yousuf. Does the pentium-m do a better job at conserving power
that the pentium 4-m, because it runs at a lower Ghz? I am looking for a
notebook with long battery life. I'm guessing the pentium-m is what I want.

Henry


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Old September 9th 03, 01:43 AM
Yousuf Khan
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"Henry" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Thank you Yousuf. Does the pentium-m do a better job at conserving power
that the pentium 4-m, because it runs at a lower Ghz? I am looking for a
notebook with long battery life. I'm guessing the pentium-m is what I

want.

Yes, that's part of the theory behind the Pentium-M in a simplistic way. The
fact that the P-M runs at lower Mhz than the P4-M allows it to run cooler
and use up less electrical wattage. There's more to it than that. There's
actually circuitry inside the P-M that switches unused parts of the CPU off
while it's not needed; the Pentium 4-M can't match that capability.

It's also the theory behind Intel's competitors offerings, such as the AMD
Athlon XP-M which also runs at lower Mhz than the P4-M, and also has
electricity saving circuitry inside the processor itself. Transmeta's Crusoe
processor sports similar technology.

The basic gist you get out of all of this is: that a laptop processor should
usually run at lower Mhz, and sport some form of electricity saving
circuitry, in order to get you good battery life.

Yousuf Khan


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Old September 9th 03, 03:09 AM
Yousuf Khan
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"Henry" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
Thank you, I think I'm starting to understand this. The centrino
incorporates several pieces of hardware to become a centrino...including a
Pentium-M cpu.


And actually recently SiS introduced a Pentium-M companion chipset that does
the same sort of thing as the overall Centrino chipset.

http://www.ebnonline.com/showArticle...cleID=14700133

http://tinyurl.com/mohz

So you're not required to have a Centrino in order to get Centrino features,
you can just as well do with a Pentium-M with a SiS chipset.

Yousuf Khan


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Old September 16th 03, 12:48 AM
bill davidsen
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In article . rogers.com,
Yousuf Khan wrote:
| "Henry" wrote in message
| le.rogers.com...
| Thank you, I think I'm starting to understand this. The centrino
| incorporates several pieces of hardware to become a centrino...including a
| Pentium-M cpu.
|
| And actually recently SiS introduced a Pentium-M companion chipset that does
| the same sort of thing as the overall Centrino chipset.
|
| http://www.ebnonline.com/showArticle...cleID=14700133
|
| http://tinyurl.com/mohz
|
| So you're not required to have a Centrino in order to get Centrino features,
| you can just as well do with a Pentium-M with a SiS chipset.

I wouldn't give two cents for WiFi, but the battery life of Centrino
(reported by people who don't sell it) seems much better than just
Pentium-M (yes I know there are two versions of that).

The whole reason I would buy Centrino is to get the battery life, WiFi
is just another security risk to disable :-(
--
Bill Davidsen CTO, TMR Associates
As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and
this we should do freely and generously.
-Benjamin Franklin (who would have liked open source)
 




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