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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
Mike T. wrote:
"Conor" wrote in message t... In article , Larry Roberts says... On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:33:09 -0400, ToolPackinMama wrote: Comments? Yes. They are trying to cause you to buy a new license every other time you do an upgrade... Maybe gona be every other install. What a load of ****. No they're not. At worst, you'll have to ring a toll free number. Nope, you're thinking XP. Vista is different. It can be transferred once. There is no procedure to work-around this restriction. -Dave You dont know that yet. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
Mike T. wrote:
"Conor" wrote in message t... In article , ToolPackinMama says... Comments? Lots of bull**** floating around. It'll work pretty much as it does now. Not quite. http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/193300234 Basically, if you mainboard dies and you replace it with a different model, your license for Vista can be "transferred" to what is now considered a new machine. It can only be transferred once. There is no procedure in place to over-ride this restriction. So you can't just call an 800# and get your OS re-activated. -Dave You dont know that yet, and neither does techweb either. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
Mike T. wrote:
Nope, you're thinking XP. Vista is different. It can be transferred once. There is no procedure to work-around this restriction. -Dave Believe me, there will be work-arounds. MS will be lenient on the one-transfer restriction. I'm sure you will have to call a number and jump through a few hoops but eventually you will be able to get it reactivated. MS is just trying to put some road bumps in the road to try to discourage casual piracy. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
I think everyone (or a large number of people) are overreacting.
My opinion is that it will most likey end up working similar to the way XP does now. You'll be able to upgrade your system a piece or two at a time with no impact at all. Worst case (as it is now), if you change enough pieces all at once such that Microsoft thinks it's a new system, all you'll have to do is call and explain what you've done. yes I've read the part about changing the motherboard. remember, when XP first came out, everone was up in arms about not being able to upgrade their systems for fear of it breaking the Microsoft activation on their systems. Turned out to be pretty much of a non-issue didn't it. Nobody will know for certain until it finall ships. "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Mike T. wrote: "Conor" wrote in message t... In article , ToolPackinMama says... Comments? Lots of bull**** floating around. It'll work pretty much as it does now. Not quite. http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/193300234 Basically, if you mainboard dies and you replace it with a different model, your license for Vista can be "transferred" to what is now considered a new machine. It can only be transferred once. There is no procedure in place to over-ride this restriction. So you can't just call an 800# and get your OS re-activated. -Dave You dont know that yet, and neither does techweb either. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
Microsoft will be gone like Ford Motor Company is gone. And it's
worse than that considering Microsoft is the only personal computer operating system maker and Ford has several other companies to compete with. What's going to break Microsoft is other countries banding together against us. That is if Microsoft ever figures out how to make other countries pay for Windows in the first place. In the meantime, Microsoft will remain the New World Order tax on America. Path: newssvr25.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm05.news.prodigy. com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon 04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!pd7cy3no!shaw.ca!h wmnpeer03.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.lga!newsfe06.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "JAD" kapasitor earthcharter.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt References: lemdnRJzpOPoFKDYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d comcast.com Xns9865F013148310123456789 207.115.17.102 Subject: Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders? Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: LZq%g.22$Oa4.0 newsfe06.lga X-Trace: lalincmlnekeejjfkannfilpcpbbolnmhabgmohokgcnmggnln ijfcjfbjnkiolegekgajconjpekfngmdfiaebadjnfofhjjccf ofacecbhpncpoaommiobfnbcmninenfnojecgjgcfcij NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:14:35 MST Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:14:08 -0700 Xref: prodigy.net alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:477444 you guys just don't get it....... MS will be long gone, computers will be appliances.......OS will be free and on a chip that you plug into ANY machine (cause they will all be the same) use it then remove your chip when your done...TCPA and its backers are the real perpatrator not Ms. This OS thing is keeping you distracted. Carry on wayward sons |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:52:14 +0100, Conor wrote:
Lots of bull**** floating around. It'll work pretty much as it does now. Yea, and the biggest bull**** came from Microsoft themselves by claiming that the Vista EULA is just a clarification of the XP EULA. That's a big load of BS they dropped on us. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
John Doe wrote:
Microsoft will be gone like Ford Motor Company is gone. And it's worse than that considering Microsoft is the only personal computer operating system maker and Ford has several other companies to compete with. There is way too much Microsoft installed base for them to be gone anytime soon. Your prediction might happen in 15-20 years but not in the near future. What's going to break Microsoft is other countries banding together against us. I can't see this happening. The world typically bands together to copy us, not be against us. After all, we're the one putting food on their table. That is if Microsoft ever figures out how to make other countries pay for Windows in the first place. Well one thing for sure, MS can't charge the equivalent in US$ of what we pay for it, but MS does need to figure out how to start profiting from the millions and millions of people using their sofware illegally. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
"Tomcat (Tom)" tom_overton_1968 yahoo.com wrote:
John Doe wrote: Microsoft will be gone like Ford Motor Company is gone. And it's worse than that considering Microsoft is the only personal computer operating system maker and Ford has several other companies to compete with. There is way too much Microsoft installed base for them to be gone anytime soon. Your prediction might happen in 15-20 years Actually, I predict it won't happen in the foreseeable future. What's going to break Microsoft is other countries banding together against us. I can't see this happening. The world typically bands together to copy us, not be against us. After all, we're the one putting food on their table. You mean like Toyota and Honda? That's not good for your argument. These days I am reading food labels that say Made in Taiwan, Dole and Del Monte fruit for example. I'm sure the same origin was stated on albacore tuna containers, but apparently the origin text seems to have disappeared lately (specifically referring to Chicken of the Sea). That is if Microsoft ever figures out how to make other countries pay for Windows in the first place. Well one thing for sure, MS can't charge the equivalent in US$ of what we pay for it, but MS does need to figure out how to start profiting from the millions and millions of people using their sofware illegally. Many countries (Russia, China, and Brazil) do not even have intellectual property law. Countries that have IP law just look the other way. They all use Microsoft products for free, the exact same products we pay for. Another possibility is something like an intellectual-property blockade. Might sound strange but I wouldn't bet against it. What else besides world rule? Of course the idea of ruling the world makes our leaders drool in anticipation, but that fantasy exists only in their heads. The point being. Microsoft isn't going anywhere. Our government protecting Microsoft is futile. Only Americans and American companies are hurt by allowing Microsoft to control personal computing. Better would be to diversify. That diversification will occur naturally in other countries as Microsoft becomes greedier and squeezes harder. Protecting Microsoft just handcuffs us here at home and drives us into the dirt. Path: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm04.news.prodigy. com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon 04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!p ostnews.google.com!b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!no t-for-mail From: "Tomcat (Tom)" tom_overton_1968 yahoo.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Subject: Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders? Date: 24 Oct 2006 13:56:37 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 24 Message-ID: 1161723397.036542.288860 b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com References: lemdnRJzpOPoFKDYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d comcast.com Xns9865F013148310123456789 207.115.17.102 LZq%g.22$Oa4.0 newsfe06.lga Xns98669F49897610123456789 207.115.17.102 NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.16.236.133 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1161723402 31432 127.0.0.1 (24 Oct 2006 20:56:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:56:42 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Xns98669F49897610123456789 207.115.17.102 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com Injection-Info: b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=72.16.236.133; posting-account=4AfWDQwAAADZ6GojxabHfazB_tdTRheo Xref: prodigy.net alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:477460 |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
Conor wrote:
In article , ToolPackinMama says... Comments? Lots of bull**** floating around. It'll work pretty much as it does now. That's true, at least in Europe. Download the software and apply the crack. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
John Doe wrote:
I can't see this happening. The world typically bands together to copy us, not be against us. After all, we're the one putting food on their table. You mean like Toyota and Honda? That's not good for your argument. I'm talking about 3rd world countries like China and India. Many countries (Russia, China, and Brazil) do not even have intellectual property law. Countries that have IP law just look the other way. They all use Microsoft products for free, the exact same products we pay for. China and Russia are starting to enforce IP laws though. Especially as these countries themselves begin to innovate and need such laws to protect their own products. The point being. Microsoft isn't going anywhere. Our government protecting Microsoft is futile. Only Americans and American companies are hurt by allowing Microsoft to control personal computing. Yeah global economy growing pains. Poor countries reap the benefits while Americans get sqeezed, especially the middle class. We are subsidizing the growth of the rest of the world until the rest of the world catches up and can afford to start paying for some of the burden. But until then, they will get free software while we continue to pay out our noses. |
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