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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
"John C." wrote:
HL-3270CDW https://www.brother-usa.com/products/hll3270cdw Says it is a color laser printer. I clicked on the link for supplies. I could search at stationery stores (e.g., Office Depot) or eBay which might have cheaper prices, but I'll just compare manufacturer prices for now. With this printer, you need to buy a black toner and 3 color toners (yellow, cyan, magenta) versus 2 inkjet cartridges (black, color). Each of the standard-yield toner cartridges costs $73 for a total of $292 for all 4 toners (which exceeds the price of the printer). Yield is 1400 pages for black, and 1300 for each color toner. So, the consumable cost is 5 cents/sheet for black and 5.6 cents/sheet for color. The cost for the printer alone is $250. The one above is an MFP printer. I had one of those but an inkjet, but disliked the amount of desk space it consumed. When I replaced it, I still got a printer+scanner combo but much smaller: HP Envy 5660. Costs for its inkjet cartridges, according to HP's site, is $40 for black with 600-page yield (6.7 cents/page) and $44 for tri-color with 415-page yield (10.6 cents/page). The cost for the printer alone was $50 (when I bought it). The upfront cost is 5 times higher for the color laser printer but the consumables are cheaper -- if you print a lot. The inkjet cartridges last me about 2 years because I don't print very often. Although my average is 1.7 pages/day, I don't print everyday. Once in a while I print something with lots of pages that I need separate of the computer (i.e., a doc file or online copy is not sufficient). I haven't had a problem with the HP-original cartridges drying out, but did have that problem when I went with cheaper knock-off cartridges. I probably waste more ink printing a monthly test page to make sure the cartridges haven't dried out (clogged jets, not ink loss). Another feature you need to check with laser printers is if the fuser is part of the toner cartridge or separate. If separate, you'll have to know how to clean it (and the ionizer wire). When I had a black-only laser printer many years ago, I made sure to get a model where the fuser was in the cartridge. Every time the toner cartridge got replaced, so did the fuser, so I never had to clean the fuser. From what I see from the pics of the Brother's toner, it is too small to include the fuser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7N7gmUJnk (didn't find a video on the model in which you are interested) Because I got a laser printer where the fuser was in the black toner cartridge, I never had to clean the fuser (in the drum unit). So, I never had to learn what to use to clean the fuser. According to the above video, you can use isopropyl alcohol (93% is available at any pharmacy store). If you start getting streaks in the printouts, the fuser is at fault. With a fuser inside the cartridge, the repair is easy (but pricey). With the fuser separate inside the printer, you have to know how to dismantle the printer to remove, clean, and replace the fuser. If an inkjet cartridge starts streaking, you can first try wiping a lintless towel using isopropyl alcohol over its head to unplug a jet port; else, replace the cartridge. From the reference guide for the HL-3270CDW, a "waste toner box" is listed. Approximate yield is 18,000 to 50,000 pages (depends on how many pages are printed per print job), so eventually its another consumable to replace. That part (WT-223CL) costs $30; see https://www.brother-usa.com/products/wt223cl. Since this item is listed with a page-yield lifespan, you cannot simply empty it to reuse it but have to replace it. Page 266 describes how to extract the unit; see https://download.brother.com/welcome..._use_oug_a.pdf. Another problem with lasers is with their heat (fuser) if you print self-stick labels. Because of the heat, the sticker can come off the paper and get stuck inside the printer. Could in in the feed path, could be on the fuser, and invariably leave glue after removing the sticker that remains on the inside that affects feeding or printing. If you expect to print labels (that have glue), make sure a laser printer that has a rear eject port, so the paper takes a straight path through the printer (no bending). Another reason for wanting a straight feed (no bending) is when printing a hardcopy of many pages and not wanting a curl in all the pages. I didn't see the HL-3270CDW has a rear tray. |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
John McGaw wrote:
On 1/25/2020 12:29 PM, John C. wrote: John McGaw wrote: On 1/25/2020 7:17 AM, John C. wrote: John McGaw wrote: On 1/25/2020 6:24 AM, John C. wrote: Tonight I tried to print a grayscale portrait of my late uncle and aunt on some nice, glossy photo paper. After waiting a long time for the job to finish (the XP drivers for the HP 855C really suck badly), I was astonished when the paper came out exactly as it went in... BLANK! This was after I'd gone into the settings (with which I am intimately familiar) and made sure the were all correct for the job. I took out the black cartridge to clean it a little and when I tried to put the thing back in the printer, the cartridge lock broke and threw pieces in random directions. How DARE it! I mean, I only bought it back in '96. The printer was so expensive that at the time, I made a promise to myself to, no matter what it took, use the thing until it paid for itself. Instead of getting upset at it breaking, I only said the full version of "WTF?" under my breath and felt a combination of ennui, sadness and relief that the machine was finally gone. A long time ago, it lost the ability to print in color because the cartridges (although still available) are so expensive and dry up so fast. It's always required periodic roller cleaning in order to get any paper to feed correctly too. Now all that is at an end. Over the years, I've been watching the dismal developments with printers, watched how printer ink has become almost the most expensive substance on earth per ounce. Watched how inkjets have become the industry's "loss-leader" throw-aways in order to get you hemorrhaging money for their ludicrously over-priced cartridges. I've also watched carefully and taken note of the way that almost all inkjet printer reviews carefully avoid discussing the capacities of the cartridges and confuse printing cost issues. I would not buy another inkjet printer if you held a loaded gun to my head. However, I still want to be able to print in color ...and reliably. Searching on the internet has resulted in my impression that the best color laser printer available for home use is the Brother HL-3270CDW, which is a single-function printer. That it's not a MFP isn't important to me because I have a good flatbed scanner already. Does anybody have any comments about this choice, pro or con? TIA I have what must be the previous version of the Brother Printer, a HL-3170CDW, and it has been flawless for the few years I've had it. Thanks! One of my concerns about the model I'm looking at is that one of the reviews said it didn't have a manual feed slot. Yet, when I downloaded and read the manual, it clearly described how to use the manual feed slot on page 13. There is definitely a manual feed slot on mine. There is some limitation on the thickness of stock that can be fed either from the tray or the manual feed since the paper makes a bend at the rear of the machine before it is ejected but that is probably true for most any printer that tries to minimize volume -- folding the paper path is the only way. Oh, and I can say that mine is not picky about "foreign" toner. I've had to change the black toner out once and used a decent but non-OEM unit for half the price from Amazon and it worked perfectly. Funny you should mention that. I was just looking at what you're describing an hour or so ago and wondering if it might be a good idea to order a set with the printer. Guess I will now. Honestly, I'd hold off on that until you see what your consumption is. Black toner is the fastest to go and my OEM stuff lasted for at least two years. The after-market toner cartridges are cheaper than OEM but they are still not free and just take up space (and I don't know what the shelf life might be). Shelf life of toner is much, much longer than ink. Also, prices only go up for toner and ink. If I buy it now, I'll probably never live long enough to use it all at my age. -- John Corliss |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
VanguardLH wrote:
John C. wrote: HL-3270CDW https://www.brother-usa.com/products/hll3270cdw Says it is a color laser printer. I clicked on the link for supplies. I could search at stationery stores (e.g., Office Depot) or eBay which might have cheaper prices, but I'll just compare manufacturer prices for now. With this printer, you need to buy a black toner and 3 color toners (yellow, cyan, magenta) versus 2 inkjet cartridges (black, color). Each of the standard-yield toner cartridges costs $73 for a total of $292 for all 4 toners (which exceeds the price of the printer). Yield is 1400 pages for black, and 1300 for each color toner. So, the consumable cost is 5 cents/sheet for black and 5.6 cents/sheet for color. The cost for the printer alone is $250. The one above is an MFP printer. I had one of those but an inkjet, but disliked the amount of desk space it consumed. When I replaced it, I still got a printer+scanner combo but much smaller: HP Envy 5660. Costs for its inkjet cartridges, according to HP's site, is $40 for black with 600-page yield (6.7 cents/page) and $44 for tri-color with 415-page yield (10.6 cents/page). The cost for the printer alone was $50 (when I bought it). The upfront cost is 5 times higher for the color laser printer but the consumables are cheaper -- if you print a lot. The inkjet cartridges last me about 2 years because I don't print very often. Although my average is 1.7 pages/day, I don't print everyday. Once in a while I print something with lots of pages that I need separate of the computer (i.e., a doc file or online copy is not sufficient). I haven't had a problem with the HP-original cartridges drying out, but did have that problem when I went with cheaper knock-off cartridges. I probably waste more ink printing a monthly test page to make sure the cartridges haven't dried out (clogged jets, not ink loss). Another feature you need to check with laser printers is if the fuser is part of the toner cartridge or separate. If separate, you'll have to know how to clean it (and the ionizer wire). When I had a black-only laser printer many years ago, I made sure to get a model where the fuser was in the cartridge. Every time the toner cartridge got replaced, so did the fuser, so I never had to clean the fuser. From what I see from the pics of the Brother's toner, it is too small to include the fuser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7N7gmUJnk (didn't find a video on the model in which you are interested) Because I got a laser printer where the fuser was in the black toner cartridge, I never had to clean the fuser (in the drum unit). So, I never had to learn what to use to clean the fuser. According to the above video, you can use isopropyl alcohol (93% is available at any pharmacy store). If you start getting streaks in the printouts, the fuser is at fault. With a fuser inside the cartridge, the repair is easy (but pricey). With the fuser separate inside the printer, you have to know how to dismantle the printer to remove, clean, and replace the fuser. If an inkjet cartridge starts streaking, you can first try wiping a lintless towel using isopropyl alcohol over its head to unplug a jet port; else, replace the cartridge. From the reference guide for the HL-3270CDW, a "waste toner box" is listed. Approximate yield is 18,000 to 50,000 pages (depends on how many pages are printed per print job), so eventually its another consumable to replace. That part (WT-223CL) costs $30; see https://www.brother-usa.com/products/wt223cl. Since this item is listed with a page-yield lifespan, you cannot simply empty it to reuse it but have to replace it. Page 266 describes how to extract the unit; see https://download.brother.com/welcome..._use_oug_a.pdf. Another problem with lasers is with their heat (fuser) if you print self-stick labels. Because of the heat, the sticker can come off the paper and get stuck inside the printer. Could in in the feed path, could be on the fuser, and invariably leave glue after removing the sticker that remains on the inside that affects feeding or printing. If you expect to print labels (that have glue), make sure a laser printer that has a rear eject port, so the paper takes a straight path through the printer (no bending). Another reason for wanting a straight feed (no bending) is when printing a hardcopy of many pages and not wanting a curl in all the pages. I didn't see the HL-3270CDW has a rear tray. Thanks very much for that detailed information, VanguardLH. You've given me a lot to consider. Incidentally, that Brother website really sucks once you get to the supplies page. It actually locked up my browser. -- John Corliss |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
Yrrah wrote:
"John C." : Searching on the internet has resulted in my impression that the best color laser printer available for home use is the Brother HL-3270CDW, which is a single-function printer. That it's not a MFP isn't important to me because I have a good flatbed scanner already. Does anybody have any comments about this choice, pro or con? Does it support Linux distros? Yrrah It looks to be very accommodating. https://support.brother.com/g/b/osli...70cdw_us_eu_as There is a radio button for ".rpm" and one for ".deb" in the Linux section of the download page. https://support.brother.com/g/b/down...cdw_us_e u_as And in the page on "How to identify your Operating System (OS)", there is no entry to help a Linux user. I guess if a Linux user didn't know what they were running... they'd never hear the end of it :-) Paul |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
On 1/26/2020 11:26 AM, Yrrah wrote:
"John C." : Searching on the internet has resulted in my impression that the best color laser printer available for home use is the Brother HL-3270CDW, which is a single-function printer. That it's not a MFP isn't important to me because I have a good flatbed scanner already. Does anybody have any comments about this choice, pro or con? Does it support Linux distros? Yrrah I'd think so. I have the virtually-identical previous version (one digit different) and it supports my Mint-Linux notebook just fine over a network connection although it took me a couple of tries, not being a Linux guru, to get it working as well as I'd like. Amazing given that I used to be a Unix sysadmin but the days of printcap and termcap are long gone. |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
Yrrah wrote:
"John C." : Searching on the internet has resulted in my impression that the best color laser printer available for home use is the Brother HL-3270CDW, which is a single-function printer. That it's not a MFP isn't important to me because I have a good flatbed scanner already. Does anybody have any comments about this choice, pro or con? Does it support Linux distros? No, according to this: https://www.brother-usa.com/-/media/...equirement.pdf -- John Corliss |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
VanguardLH wrote:
"John C." wrote: HL-3270CDW https://www.brother-usa.com/products/hll3270cdw Says it is a color laser printer. I clicked on the link for supplies. I could search at stationery stores (e.g., Office Depot) or eBay which might have cheaper prices, but I'll just compare manufacturer prices for now. With this printer, you need to buy a black toner and 3 color toners (yellow, cyan, magenta) versus 2 inkjet cartridges (black, color). Each of the standard-yield toner cartridges costs $73 for a total of $292 for all 4 toners (which exceeds the price of the printer). Yield is 1400 pages for black, and 1300 for each color toner. So, the consumable cost is 5 cents/sheet for black and 5.6 cents/sheet for color. The cost for the printer alone is $250. The one above is an MFP printer. I had one of those but an inkjet, but disliked the amount of desk space it consumed. When I replaced it, I still got a printer+scanner combo but much smaller: HP Envy 5660. Costs for its inkjet cartridges, according to HP's site, is $40 for black with 600-page yield (6.7 cents/page) and $44 for tri-color with 415-page yield (10.6 cents/page). The cost for the printer alone was $50 (when I bought it). The upfront cost is 5 times higher for the color laser printer but the consumables are cheaper -- if you print a lot. The inkjet cartridges last me about 2 years because I don't print very often. Although my average is 1.7 pages/day, I don't print everyday. Once in a while I print something with lots of pages that I need separate of the computer (i.e., a doc file or online copy is not sufficient). I haven't had a problem with the HP-original cartridges drying out, but did have that problem when I went with cheaper knock-off cartridges. I probably waste more ink printing a monthly test page to make sure the cartridges haven't dried out (clogged jets, not ink loss). Another feature you need to check with laser printers is if the fuser is part of the toner cartridge or separate. If separate, you'll have to know how to clean it (and the ionizer wire). When I had a black-only laser printer many years ago, I made sure to get a model where the fuser was in the cartridge. Every time the toner cartridge got replaced, so did the fuser, so I never had to clean the fuser. From what I see from the pics of the Brother's toner, it is too small to include the fuser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7N7gmUJnk (didn't find a video on the model in which you are interested) Because I got a laser printer where the fuser was in the black toner cartridge, I never had to clean the fuser (in the drum unit). So, I never had to learn what to use to clean the fuser. According to the above video, you can use isopropyl alcohol (93% is available at any pharmacy store). If you start getting streaks in the printouts, the fuser is at fault. With a fuser inside the cartridge, the repair is easy (but pricey). With the fuser separate inside the printer, you have to know how to dismantle the printer to remove, clean, and replace the fuser. If an inkjet cartridge starts streaking, you can first try wiping a lintless towel using isopropyl alcohol over its head to unplug a jet port; else, replace the cartridge. From the reference guide for the HL-3270CDW, a "waste toner box" is listed. Approximate yield is 18,000 to 50,000 pages (depends on how many pages are printed per print job), so eventually its another consumable to replace. I just looked a that "Reference Guide" file myself. I don't know where you got that lower figure, because all the guide says is 50K with a superscript reference to item number 2, which says "Letter or A4 size single-sided pages". And the belt unit is also rated at approx. 50K pages, with variances possible due to media type and size. In the pitiful few years of life I have left to me, there's no way I'll ever print that amount of pages. There isn't any way that I will ever print even the lower figure in my lifetime. That part (WT-223CL) costs $30; see https://www.brother-usa.com/products/wt223cl. Since this item is listed with a page-yield lifespan, you cannot simply empty it to reuse it but have to replace it. Page 266 describes how to extract the unit; see https://download.brother.com/welcome..._use_oug_a.pdf. Another problem with lasers is with their heat (fuser) if you print self-stick labels. Because of the heat, the sticker can come off the paper and get stuck inside the printer. Could in in the feed path, could be on the fuser, and invariably leave glue after removing the sticker that remains on the inside that affects feeding or printing. If you expect to print labels (that have glue), make sure a laser printer that has a rear eject port, so the paper takes a straight path through the printer (no bending). Another reason for wanting a straight feed (no bending) is when printing a hardcopy of many pages and not wanting a curl in all the pages. I didn't see the HL-3270CDW has a rear tray. I'm used to my HP 855C mangling paper and getting jammed. I've been living with that for so long that this Brother printer is going to be a dream. Besides, my first laser printer was a Brother HL-4V, and I loved it. I lost it when a repair guy broke it right in front of me and then denied doing so ("Don't believe your lying eyes, believe what I tell you.") He's no longer in business, was an incompetent ass. I hear what you're saying about self-sticking labels though, since I use them around Christmas time. On that topic, the same reference guide says the following on page 10: __________________________________________________ ______________________ Load Paper in the Manual Feed Slot Use the Manual Feed Slot when printing on the following media: Plain paper Thin paper Recycled paper Bond paper Thick paper Labels 1 -----NOTE Envelopes 1 Glossy paper • Adjust the guides • Use both hands to insert one sheet of paper • Continue pressing the paper against the rollers for about two seconds, or until the machine grabs the paper and pulls it in further (NOTE THE FOLLOWING LINE) 1 Open the back cover (face up output tray) before printing to let the printed paper exit onto the face up output tray. -- John Corliss |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
"John C." wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: From the reference guide for the HL-3270CDW, a "waste toner box" is listed. Approximate yield is 18,000 to 50,000 pages (depends on how many pages are printed per print job), so eventually its another consumable to replace. I just looked a that "Reference Guide" file myself. I don't know where you got that lower figure, because all the guide says is 50K with a superscript reference to item number 2, which says "Letter or A4 size single-sided pages". Oops, I must've combined #4 for the drum (with fusers) with the 50,000 mentioned in the pic table for the waste box. For high-yield black toner cartridges at 3000 pages (for black), after 16 to 17 cartridges you also replace the waste bin. That could be awhile before you buy another at $30 (if, by then, you can still find one). However, that same pic table (page 347) says the drum unit lasts 18,000 pages. That's a replacement ($126) after the 6th black toner. How long that takes depends on your print volume. Because inkets are more costly per page and slower than laser printers, I remember pondering more before hitting the print button and using preview (where I printed to a file and viewed the file, not the preview the printer's software might show before it actually prints) when I moved to an inkjet. With laser printers, I fell to the same fault as many other laser printer users and just printed away, and then made corrections to the print job. I wasted more paper and toner with the laser printers than with inkjets. Nowadays, regardless of printer type, I rarely print anything and instead save it into a file either internally, removable media, or online. I still print out legal docs, but keep a file copy when I or someone wants a copy. I'm used to my HP 855C mangling paper and getting jammed. I've been living with that for so long that this Brother printer is going to be a dream. You mentioned cleaning the rollers. Whether laser or inkjet (but more often with laser due to heat), feeding would begin to fail because the rollers had shrunk. They're rubber/vinyl and their solvent dries out. I remember getting a spray can of a special cleaner that didn't just clean the roller but also rehydrated it with solvent. That would make the roller expand just enough along with give it more friction to solve the feeding problems. You can clean using isopropyl alcohol, but that dries out the roller which, in turn, shrinks it. I hear what you're saying about self-sticking labels though, since I use them around Christmas time. On that topic, the same reference guide says the following on page 10: Except the paper still has to curl around the rollers to take a path for ionization and fusing, and it's that curling around the rollers that imparts a curl the paper printout and increases the hazard for self-stick labels to come off the backing paper. Back for my prior laser, it did have a rear exit to eliminate curling and peeling. For example, the Brother HLL2300D has a rear paper exit. I still suspect there is still one curl, perhaps not a full wrap around, to pass the paper along the fuser(s). I'm not suggesting that product, just giving an example with a rear exit for a [nearly] straight paper path. Rather than use a laser printer for self-stick label printing, I'd hang onto my inkjet printer for that job (which has a rear exit). Alas, inkjet ink is water based and prone to smearing when it gets wet, like for self-stick labels you print from an inkjet use for shipping labels on the outside of a box. There are water-resistant inks to help prevent smearing, but usually those are listed for specific brands and models. You could just put some clear packing tape over the inkjet'ed shipping label. If you want a more professional look, there are polyester labels that include a clear label to put over the printed one. One trick I've seen postal workers do at the desk when they see what's look like gel pens or inkjets to print on a self-stick label is to swipe a wet tissue across to see if the label smears. There are more permanent gel pens (e.g., Uniball 207) and some water-resistant inkjet inks, but those can smear, too, like the label got water logged instead of just misted. Of course, lasers aren't without problems, either. If the fuser doesn't get hot enough, the toners doesn't adhere as well to the paper. Ever get a package with it looks like some of the lettering fell off? The fuser heats the toner so the adhesive in it will make the granules stick to the paper. If not hot enough, the toner doesn't stick as well. |
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My HP Deskjet 855C died tonight.
VanguardLH wrote:
"John C." wrote: VanguardLH wrote: From the reference guide for the HL-3270CDW, a "waste toner box" is listed. Approximate yield is 18,000 to 50,000 pages (depends on how many pages are printed per print job), so eventually its another consumable to replace. I just looked a that "Reference Guide" file myself. I don't know where you got that lower figure, because all the guide says is 50K with a superscript reference to item number 2, which says "Letter or A4 size single-sided pages". Oops, I must've combined #4 for the drum (with fusers) with the 50,000 mentioned in the pic table for the waste box. For high-yield black toner cartridges at 3000 pages (for black), after 16 to 17 cartridges you also replace the waste bin. That could be awhile before you buy another at $30 (if, by then, you can still find one). However, that same pic table (page 347) says the drum unit lasts 18,000 pages. That's a replacement ($126) after the 6th black toner. How long that takes depends on your print volume. Because inkets are more costly per page and slower than laser printers, I remember pondering more before hitting the print button and using preview (where I printed to a file and viewed the file, not the preview the printer's software might show before it actually prints) when I moved to an inkjet. With laser printers, I fell to the same fault as many other laser printer users and just printed away, and then made corrections to the print job. I wasted more paper and toner with the laser printers than with inkjets. Nowadays, regardless of printer type, I rarely print anything and instead save it into a file either internally, removable media, or online. I still print out legal docs, but keep a file copy when I or someone wants a copy. I'm used to my HP 855C mangling paper and getting jammed. I've been living with that for so long that this Brother printer is going to be a dream. You mentioned cleaning the rollers. Whether laser or inkjet (but more often with laser due to heat), feeding would begin to fail because the rollers had shrunk. They're rubber/vinyl and their solvent dries out. I remember getting a spray can of a special cleaner that didn't just clean the roller but also rehydrated it with solvent. That would make the roller expand just enough along with give it more friction to solve the feeding problems. You can clean using isopropyl alcohol, but that dries out the roller which, in turn, shrinks it. I hear what you're saying about self-sticking labels though, since I use them around Christmas time. On that topic, the same reference guide says the following on page 10: Except the paper still has to curl around the rollers to take a path for ionization and fusing, and it's that curling around the rollers that imparts a curl the paper printout and increases the hazard for self-stick labels to come off the backing paper. Back for my prior laser, it did have a rear exit to eliminate curling and peeling. For example, the Brother HLL2300D has a rear paper exit. I still suspect there is still one curl, perhaps not a full wrap around, to pass the paper along the fuser(s). I'm not suggesting that product, just giving an example with a rear exit for a [nearly] straight paper path. Rather than use a laser printer for self-stick label printing, I'd hang onto my inkjet printer for that job (which has a rear exit). Alas, inkjet ink is water based and prone to smearing when it gets wet, like for self-stick labels you print from an inkjet use for shipping labels on the outside of a box. There are water-resistant inks to help prevent smearing, but usually those are listed for specific brands and models. You could just put some clear packing tape over the inkjet'ed shipping label. If you want a more professional look, there are polyester labels that include a clear label to put over the printed one. One trick I've seen postal workers do at the desk when they see what's look like gel pens or inkjets to print on a self-stick label is to swipe a wet tissue across to see if the label smears. There are more permanent gel pens (e.g., Uniball 207) and some water-resistant inkjet inks, but those can smear, too, like the label got water logged instead of just misted. Of course, lasers aren't without problems, either. If the fuser doesn't get hot enough, the toners doesn't adhere as well to the paper. Ever get a package with it looks like some of the lettering fell off? The fuser heats the toner so the adhesive in it will make the granules stick to the paper. If not hot enough, the toner doesn't stick as well. I haven't mentioned that a cousin gave me a new, still-in-the-box HP Envy 4520. He said he bought it, decided he didn't want it and tried to give it away to all his friends. He couldn't even give it away. It comes with "starter" cartridges that will print about 245 black and 100 color pages (of course depending on the content.) It's free, so I'll use up the cartridges, that is unless they dried out while sitting since the thing was bought. Will still be getting that Brother HL-L3270CDW printer though. It's currently the highest rated color laser (class, because it's actually an LED) printer. -- John Corliss |
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