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Bios update: which file?
I tried replying with the following but it wouldn't post; maybe this
will.... Thanks Paul! Now I wonder if I download the bios flash from Asus he http://www.asus.com/support/download...S333&Type=BIOS I read in my manual that the Aflash is a 'writer utility' that uploads the flash file to the bios to update it. so I would download the Aflash.zip and the 1007 file, both, right? and how do I know if I need the 1007 or the 1007c? I went into my setup and according to the manaul and comparing it to my bios, I have no line allowing me to enable or disable "Onboard LAN Boot ROM' nor do I have a line allowing me to enable or disable 'Onboard LAN Controller'. Would this mean I would use the P4S1007.zip? and not the 'c' version? I looked at the file link you sent below for the CTMC, downloaded it, and the text file was in German, the other text file was just numbers. I guess if I'm going to do that, I may as well flash the bios to do it and allow for a larger than 137gb hard drive which I need to replace with a 160gb. I went to the link you sent to an earlier question that led me to '48bitLBA.com' and chose the Upgrade Bios NOW and the tech who called informed me at that time it would cost me $50 for their bios upgrade. I had downloaded, installed and run the Bios Agent creating a text file that I am probably not allowed to attach, and I was supposed to call the place to install it. Couldn't I download/install this myself free of charge from Asus? I have flashed a bios once before on a PB which was very involved and irritating, this motherboard seems easier but I just want to be sure I have the right file for this mobo. Would be great if Asus could use a Bios Agent to tell 'me' what I need. Could you help me find the right file? I understand that the responsibility is still in my court and I'm not about to make you or anyone responsible for the 'correct file' but I sure could use some feedback. Thanks again for helping and welcome any advice!!! katy "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , "Katy" wrote: I really had 2 questions: (BIOS bootup alert & Event Viewer alert) I am getting a message before windows loads (so cannot do a printscreen) just following choosing WindowsXP as operating system (using dual boot to W2k) that states this: BIOS: BIOS update data incorrect. CPUID=3D00000F27, PCI Device Listing... (then it lists my devices and other info including IRQ, etc.) and continues to load windows with no obvious problems. However, I am getting many instances of Error in Event Viewer that reports this: The device, \Device\Harddisk1\D, has a bad block. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. (This link tells me I should replace my hard drive.) This has been coming up ever since I installed this P4S333 motherboard almost a yr. ago. I haven't flashed the bios on this motherboard, ACPI BIOS Revision 1006C, since I bought it. Could a message like this BIOS: be causing my Event Viewer to report a bad sector on my Maxtor hard drive? or doesn't this BIOS message have ANYTHING to do with the Event Viewer message? I have done a Scan on the hard drive, have used Partition Magic to scan and fix it, and also have used the Maxtor.exe file that came with the drive to do 5 surface scans and nothing reports bad sectors to fix, only Event Viewer is. Could anyone tell me if Event Viewer is reporting an accurate message and should the CPUID=3D00000F27 mean anything to me? TIA for any advice, katy Intel has a scheme, where they can repair certain bugs in the processor with what is called a "microcode update". Some of the bugs will only be discovered after the processor is shipping and in the field, so Intel issues new microcode files whenever a bug is found. The BIOS contains a microcode loader. The BIOS also has a set of 2KB microcode files, to load. The microcode files have ID info, like the family code 0F27. When Asus gets updated microcode from Intel, they incorporate the new 2KB patches into new BIOS releases. Flashing the BIOS is one way to get microcode for your 0F27 processor. Another method that works at the BIOS level, is CTMC. This is a program from CT Heise magazine in Germany. The MC stands for microcode. The nice thing about the CTMC method, is there is less risk to the BIOS chip. A volatile region of the flash chip is used, and no BIOS executable code is touched, so the machine should be able to boot, no matter how well the CTMC program works. CTMC uses a hook in the BIOS, so the flashing of the BIOS is being done by the BIOS itself. ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctmc10.zip Basically, this is a capsule summary of using CTMC: 1) You have to be able to boot Windows to use the program. That is because you need to run the CTMC program to do the actual writing of microcode to the flash chip. If not, then download the latest BIOS file from Asus, the latest MSDOS boot floppy based flash program from Asus, read any warnings on the download page, and flash the BIOS. 2) Find a recent version of BIOS from the download page. If your processor version was never supported by Asus ever, you can download a BIOS from another board that uses an Intel P4 processor, provided it is an Award BIOS, and extract microcode from that BIOS file. 3) Get the CTMC package. Use splitawd to split the donor BIOS file into modules. Use LHA to decompress a module called "cpucode.exe". Use the main CTMC program "ctmc cpucode.exe /store" This gives a bunch of 2KB files, and the file name will have the processor family code in it, like 0F270433.bin or the like. Now, use a MSDOS window or a command prompt window in Windows, run ctmc again, this time using the option to write the donated microcode to the BIOS "ctmc 0f270433.bin /write". Reboot. The BIOS message should disappear after that, and the Intel FrequencyID utility should change the processor version listed from 0 to whatever version was in the microcode patch (0x33 in the example above - the version is part of the file name). So, that covers two methods. Either flash the whole BIOS chip using the latest from Asus, or use CTMC to only flash the needed 2KB of microcode to the flash chip. (The 1008c005.zip beta BIOS contains 0F270433.BIN microcode, so that BIOS will certainly fix the problem, or you can use that BIOS file to extract 0F270433.BIN for a "ctmc 0F270433.BIN /store" operation.) In the later Microsoft OSes, there is also a microcode loader in the OS itself. When say, WinXP boots, it can load a microcode update to the system, in which case the bugs in the processor are "removed" after the update.sys runs. But, this method leaves a gap, that extends from POST, until update.sys runs. You say your errors exist even after WinXP boots. I would think the microcode update in Windows would remove the microcode as an issue, so something else must be wrong. HTH, Paul |
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wrote: I tried replying with the following but it wouldn't post; maybe this will.... Thanks Paul! Now I wonder if I download the bios flash from Asus he http://www.asus.com/support/download...S333&Type=BIOS I read in my manual that the Aflash is a 'writer utility' that uploads the flash file to the bios to update it. so I would download the Aflash.zip and the 1007 file, both, right? and how do I know if I need the 1007 or the 1007c? I went into my setup and according to the manaul and comparing it to my bios, I have no line allowing me to enable or disable "Onboard LAN Boot ROM' nor do I have a line allowing me to enable or disable 'Onboard LAN Controller'. Would this mean I would use the P4S1007.zip? and not the 'c' version? I looked at the file link you sent below for the CTMC, downloaded it, and the text file was in German, the other text file was just numbers. I guess if I'm going to do that, I may as well flash the bios to do it and allow for a larger than 137gb hard drive which I need to replace with a 160gb. I went to the link you sent to an earlier question that led me to '48bitLBA.com' and chose the Upgrade Bios NOW and the tech who called informed me at that time it would cost me $50 for their bios upgrade. I had downloaded, installed and run the Bios Agent creating a text file that I am probably not allowed to attach, and I was supposed to call the place to install it. Couldn't I download/install this myself free of charge from Asus? I have flashed a bios once before on a PB which was very involved and irritating, this motherboard seems easier but I just want to be sure I have the right file for this mobo. Would be great if Asus could use a Bios Agent to tell 'me' what I need. Could you help me find the right file? I understand that the responsibility is still in my court and I'm not about to make you or anyone responsible for the 'correct file' but I sure could use some feedback. Thanks again for helping and welcome any advice!!! katy Whoa, Nelly :-) I didn't send you to 48bitlba.com, just to buy a BIOS. You are absolutely correct, that Asus has your BIOS update for you. I sent you to 48bitlba, because it has interesting info on the 137GB disk boundary problem, like what to do for Win2K or WinXP. I did that because I didn't want to type all the info into a USENET posting, and sent you there to do some research :-) As for your current Asus BIOS, in a previous post, you claimed to be running 1006C, so that would suggest one of the "C" BIOS is what you should use. This is the latest release BIOS, p4s1007c.zip, for a "without LAN" board. http://www.asus.com/support/download...7c.zip~zaqwedc This is the latest beta BIOS, 1008c005.zip, from December of last year: http://www.asus.com/support/download...05.zip~zaqwedc The Beta has been around long enough, that it should be just as good as the release BIOS. Checking Google, I don't see any "train wrecks" caused by 1008, so I would go with the second of the two links above. You'll need a flash program: http://www.asus.com/support/download...21.zip~zaqwedc I recommend flashing from a MSDOS boot disk. I made mine with Win98SE and have been carting the same floppy from computer to computer ever since. Bootdisk.com also has boot disks if you need the files. Instructions for what to do are actually in a README file inside the aflash221.zip file. When unzipped, you'll find the aflash executable and the README file. Things you can do (as well as what is in the README): 0) Before flashing, go into the BIOS, and write down any custom settings you are using. You will need these later. If you are overclocking, return the CPU and memory to normal conditions before flashing. An overclock can overclock the clock on the LPC interface, and you don't want that. You could even do "Load Setup Defaults" from the Exit menu, as that returns the BIOS to factory settings. (I don't bother with that.) 1) The first step with aflash, is to back up the current BIOS. Aflash reads the contents of the flash chip and stores it in a file. If the flash procedure appears to be failing, and you haven't tried to reboot yet, you can use Aflash again, and write the file contents back into the flash chip. I've actually had to do that once. Two BIOS files will fit on a floppy for older boards. For newer boards with 512KB flash chips, you would need a second floppy with just Aflash and the BIOS files on it, and swap floppies. 2) Try flashing the new file _without_ updating the boot block. If you flash the boot block on the first try, there is no recovery procedure if the flash fails. By fail, what I mean is, it will look like Aflash has succeeded. You try to reboot and get a black screen. If there is going to be trouble while flashing, then it is best to just zap the rest of the code in the BIOS, but leave the boot block intact. Boot block recovery gives you a slim chance of getting back on your feet again, but it is better than nothing. 3) If the flash _without_ updating boot block works, then try including updating the boot block on the second flash. If step (2) works, then (3) is more likely to work. 4) If step (2) or (3) fail, try the "Clear CMOS" procedure in the manual. Always unplug the computer first, before doing this. The jumper is generally called CLRTC, so look for that in the manual. 5) If things are still looking bad, you can try reflashing. Some BIOS have a flash routine build-in, and on some alt f2 brings up the menu. If your BIOS doesn't have that feature, or doesn't have CrashFree, then you can try the boot block method. That involves a boot floppy, only this time it has an autoexec.bat file on the disk. The autoexec file is a text file with a one line command in the file. The file to be executed will be aflash.exe, followed by a sequence of command line options. That is how some people manage to flash back to their original BIOS. (If the BIOS refuses to boot from the floppy, or even attempt to access the floppy, the boot block is fried.) 6) If recovery steps (4) and (5) fail, visit badflash.com and buy a replacement flash chip programmed with the version of BIOS you want to use. Good luck, Paul "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , "Katy" wrote: I really had 2 questions: (BIOS bootup alert & Event Viewer alert) I am getting a message before windows loads (so cannot do a printscreen) just following choosing WindowsXP as operating system (using dual boot to W2k) that states this: BIOS: BIOS update data incorrect. CPUID=3D00000F27, PCI Device Listing... (then it lists my devices and other info including IRQ, etc.) and continues to load windows with no obvious problems. However, I am getting many instances of Error in Event Viewer that reports this: The device, \Device\Harddisk1\D, has a bad block. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. (This link tells me I should replace my hard drive.) This has been coming up ever since I installed this P4S333 motherboard almost a yr. ago. I haven't flashed the bios on this motherboard, ACPI BIOS Revision 1006C, since I bought it. Could a message like this BIOS: be causing my Event Viewer to report a bad sector on my Maxtor hard drive? or doesn't this BIOS message have ANYTHING to do with the Event Viewer message? I have done a Scan on the hard drive, have used Partition Magic to scan and fix it, and also have used the Maxtor.exe file that came with the drive to do 5 surface scans and nothing reports bad sectors to fix, only Event Viewer is. Could anyone tell me if Event Viewer is reporting an accurate message and should the CPUID=3D00000F27 mean anything to me? TIA for any advice, katy Intel has a scheme, where they can repair certain bugs in the processor with what is called a "microcode update". Some of the bugs will only be discovered after the processor is shipping and in the field, so Intel issues new microcode files whenever a bug is found. The BIOS contains a microcode loader. The BIOS also has a set of 2KB microcode files, to load. The microcode files have ID info, like the family code 0F27. When Asus gets updated microcode from Intel, they incorporate the new 2KB patches into new BIOS releases. Flashing the BIOS is one way to get microcode for your 0F27 processor. Another method that works at the BIOS level, is CTMC. This is a program from CT Heise magazine in Germany. The MC stands for microcode. The nice thing about the CTMC method, is there is less risk to the BIOS chip. A volatile region of the flash chip is used, and no BIOS executable code is touched, so the machine should be able to boot, no matter how well the CTMC program works. CTMC uses a hook in the BIOS, so the flashing of the BIOS is being done by the BIOS itself. ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctmc10.zip Basically, this is a capsule summary of using CTMC: 1) You have to be able to boot Windows to use the program. That is because you need to run the CTMC program to do the actual writing of microcode to the flash chip. If not, then download the latest BIOS file from Asus, the latest MSDOS boot floppy based flash program from Asus, read any warnings on the download page, and flash the BIOS. 2) Find a recent version of BIOS from the download page. If your processor version was never supported by Asus ever, you can download a BIOS from another board that uses an Intel P4 processor, provided it is an Award BIOS, and extract microcode from that BIOS file. 3) Get the CTMC package. Use splitawd to split the donor BIOS file into modules. Use LHA to decompress a module called "cpucode.exe". Use the main CTMC program "ctmc cpucode.exe /store" This gives a bunch of 2KB files, and the file name will have the processor family code in it, like 0F270433.bin or the like. Now, use a MSDOS window or a command prompt window in Windows, run ctmc again, this time using the option to write the donated microcode to the BIOS "ctmc 0f270433.bin /write". Reboot. The BIOS message should disappear after that, and the Intel FrequencyID utility should change the processor version listed from 0 to whatever version was in the microcode patch (0x33 in the example above - the version is part of the file name). So, that covers two methods. Either flash the whole BIOS chip using the latest from Asus, or use CTMC to only flash the needed 2KB of microcode to the flash chip. (The 1008c005.zip beta BIOS contains 0F270433.BIN microcode, so that BIOS will certainly fix the problem, or you can use that BIOS file to extract 0F270433.BIN for a "ctmc 0F270433.BIN /store" operation.) In the later Microsoft OSes, there is also a microcode loader in the OS itself. When say, WinXP boots, it can load a microcode update to the system, in which case the bugs in the processor are "removed" after the update.sys runs. But, this method leaves a gap, that extends from POST, until update.sys runs. You say your errors exist even after WinXP boots. I would think the microcode update in Windows would remove the microcode as an issue, so something else must be wrong. HTH, Paul |
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Note, once a motherboard model is discontinued by Asus, Asus classifies
ALL further BIOS' for that motherboard as "beta". This is a bit different from the usual definition. Paul wrote: In article , "Katy" wrote: I tried replying with the following but it wouldn't post; maybe this will.... Thanks Paul! Now I wonder if I download the bios flash from Asus he http://www.asus.com/support/download...S333&Type=BIOS I read in my manual that the Aflash is a 'writer utility' that uploads the flash file to the bios to update it. so I would download the Aflash.zip and the 1007 file, both, right? and how do I know if I need the 1007 or the 1007c? I went into my setup and according to the manaul and comparing it to my bios, I have no line allowing me to enable or disable "Onboard LAN Boot ROM' nor do I have a line allowing me to enable or disable 'Onboard LAN Controller'. Would this mean I would use the P4S1007.zip? and not the 'c' version? I looked at the file link you sent below for the CTMC, downloaded it, and the text file was in German, the other text file was just numbers. I guess if I'm going to do that, I may as well flash the bios to do it and allow for a larger than 137gb hard drive which I need to replace with a 160gb. I went to the link you sent to an earlier question that led me to '48bitLBA.com' and chose the Upgrade Bios NOW and the tech who called informed me at that time it would cost me $50 for their bios upgrade. I had downloaded, installed and run the Bios Agent creating a text file that I am probably not allowed to attach, and I was supposed to call the place to install it. Couldn't I download/install this myself free of charge from Asus? I have flashed a bios once before on a PB which was very involved and irritating, this motherboard seems easier but I just want to be sure I have the right file for this mobo. Would be great if Asus could use a Bios Agent to tell 'me' what I need. Could you help me find the right file? I understand that the responsibility is still in my court and I'm not about to make you or anyone responsible for the 'correct file' but I sure could use some feedback. Thanks again for helping and welcome any advice!!! katy Whoa, Nelly :-) I didn't send you to 48bitlba.com, just to buy a BIOS. You are absolutely correct, that Asus has your BIOS update for you. I sent you to 48bitlba, because it has interesting info on the 137GB disk boundary problem, like what to do for Win2K or WinXP. I did that because I didn't want to type all the info into a USENET posting, and sent you there to do some research :-) As for your current Asus BIOS, in a previous post, you claimed to be running 1006C, so that would suggest one of the "C" BIOS is what you should use. This is the latest release BIOS, p4s1007c.zip, for a "without LAN" board. http://www.asus.com/support/download...7c.zip~zaqwedc This is the latest beta BIOS, 1008c005.zip, from December of last year: http://www.asus.com/support/download...05.zip~zaqwedc The Beta has been around long enough, that it should be just as good as the release BIOS. Checking Google, I don't see any "train wrecks" caused by 1008, so I would go with the second of the two links above. You'll need a flash program: http://www.asus.com/support/download...21.zip~zaqwedc I recommend flashing from a MSDOS boot disk. I made mine with Win98SE and have been carting the same floppy from computer to computer ever since. Bootdisk.com also has boot disks if you need the files. Instructions for what to do are actually in a README file inside the aflash221.zip file. When unzipped, you'll find the aflash executable and the README file. Things you can do (as well as what is in the README): 0) Before flashing, go into the BIOS, and write down any custom settings you are using. You will need these later. If you are overclocking, return the CPU and memory to normal conditions before flashing. An overclock can overclock the clock on the LPC interface, and you don't want that. You could even do "Load Setup Defaults" from the Exit menu, as that returns the BIOS to factory settings. (I don't bother with that.) 1) The first step with aflash, is to back up the current BIOS. Aflash reads the contents of the flash chip and stores it in a file. If the flash procedure appears to be failing, and you haven't tried to reboot yet, you can use Aflash again, and write the file contents back into the flash chip. I've actually had to do that once. Two BIOS files will fit on a floppy for older boards. For newer boards with 512KB flash chips, you would need a second floppy with just Aflash and the BIOS files on it, and swap floppies. 2) Try flashing the new file _without_ updating the boot block. If you flash the boot block on the first try, there is no recovery procedure if the flash fails. By fail, what I mean is, it will look like Aflash has succeeded. You try to reboot and get a black screen. If there is going to be trouble while flashing, then it is best to just zap the rest of the code in the BIOS, but leave the boot block intact. Boot block recovery gives you a slim chance of getting back on your feet again, but it is better than nothing. 3) If the flash _without_ updating boot block works, then try including updating the boot block on the second flash. If step (2) works, then (3) is more likely to work. 4) If step (2) or (3) fail, try the "Clear CMOS" procedure in the manual. Always unplug the computer first, before doing this. The jumper is generally called CLRTC, so look for that in the manual. 5) If things are still looking bad, you can try reflashing. Some BIOS have a flash routine build-in, and on some alt f2 brings up the menu. If your BIOS doesn't have that feature, or doesn't have CrashFree, then you can try the boot block method. That involves a boot floppy, only this time it has an autoexec.bat file on the disk. The autoexec file is a text file with a one line command in the file. The file to be executed will be aflash.exe, followed by a sequence of command line options. That is how some people manage to flash back to their original BIOS. (If the BIOS refuses to boot from the floppy, or even attempt to access the floppy, the boot block is fried.) 6) If recovery steps (4) and (5) fail, visit badflash.com and buy a replacement flash chip programmed with the version of BIOS you want to use. Good luck, Paul "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , "Katy" wrote: I really had 2 questions: (BIOS bootup alert & Event Viewer alert) I am getting a message before windows loads (so cannot do a printscreen) just following choosing WindowsXP as operating system (using dual boot to W2k) that states this: BIOS: BIOS update data incorrect. CPUID=3D00000F27, PCI Device Listing... (then it lists my devices and other info including IRQ, etc.) and continues to load windows with no obvious problems. However, I am getting many instances of Error in Event Viewer that reports this: The device, \Device\Harddisk1\D, has a bad block. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. (This link tells me I should replace my hard drive.) This has been coming up ever since I installed this P4S333 motherboard almost a yr. ago. I haven't flashed the bios on this motherboard, ACPI BIOS Revision 1006C, since I bought it. Could a message like this BIOS: be causing my Event Viewer to report a bad sector on my Maxtor hard drive? or doesn't this BIOS message have ANYTHING to do with the Event Viewer message? I have done a Scan on the hard drive, have used Partition Magic to scan and fix it, and also have used the Maxtor.exe file that came with the drive to do 5 surface scans and nothing reports bad sectors to fix, only Event Viewer is. Could anyone tell me if Event Viewer is reporting an accurate message and should the CPUID=3D00000F27 mean anything to me? TIA for any advice, katy Intel has a scheme, where they can repair certain bugs in the processor with what is called a "microcode update". Some of the bugs will only be discovered after the processor is shipping and in the field, so Intel issues new microcode files whenever a bug is found. The BIOS contains a microcode loader. The BIOS also has a set of 2KB microcode files, to load. The microcode files have ID info, like the family code 0F27. When Asus gets updated microcode from Intel, they incorporate the new 2KB patches into new BIOS releases. Flashing the BIOS is one way to get microcode for your 0F27 processor. Another method that works at the BIOS level, is CTMC. This is a program from CT Heise magazine in Germany. The MC stands for microcode. The nice thing about the CTMC method, is there is less risk to the BIOS chip. A volatile region of the flash chip is used, and no BIOS executable code is touched, so the machine should be able to boot, no matter how well the CTMC program works. CTMC uses a hook in the BIOS, so the flashing of the BIOS is being done by the BIOS itself. ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctmc10.zip Basically, this is a capsule summary of using CTMC: 1) You have to be able to boot Windows to use the program. That is because you need to run the CTMC program to do the actual writing of microcode to the flash chip. If not, then download the latest BIOS file from Asus, the latest MSDOS boot floppy based flash program from Asus, read any warnings on the download page, and flash the BIOS. 2) Find a recent version of BIOS from the download page. If your processor version was never supported by Asus ever, you can download a BIOS from another board that uses an Intel P4 processor, provided it is an Award BIOS, and extract microcode from that BIOS file. 3) Get the CTMC package. Use splitawd to split the donor BIOS file into modules. Use LHA to decompress a module called "cpucode.exe". Use the main CTMC program "ctmc cpucode.exe /store" This gives a bunch of 2KB files, and the file name will have the processor family code in it, like 0F270433.bin or the like. Now, use a MSDOS window or a command prompt window in Windows, run ctmc again, this time using the option to write the donated microcode to the BIOS "ctmc 0f270433.bin /write". Reboot. The BIOS message should disappear after that, and the Intel FrequencyID utility should change the processor version listed from 0 to whatever version was in the microcode patch (0x33 in the example above - the version is part of the file name). So, that covers two methods. Either flash the whole BIOS chip using the latest from Asus, or use CTMC to only flash the needed 2KB of microcode to the flash chip. (The 1008c005.zip beta BIOS contains 0F270433.BIN microcode, so that BIOS will certainly fix the problem, or you can use that BIOS file to extract 0F270433.BIN for a "ctmc 0F270433.BIN /store" operation.) In the later Microsoft OSes, there is also a microcode loader in the OS itself. When say, WinXP boots, it can load a microcode update to the system, in which case the bugs in the processor are "removed" after the update.sys runs. But, this method leaves a gap, that extends from POST, until update.sys runs. You say your errors exist even after WinXP boots. I would think the microcode update in Windows would remove the microcode as an issue, so something else must be wrong. HTH, Paul |
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