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I tried xxClone
xxClone worked to copy a single bootable partition from one
hard drive to another, but it made the copy file-by-file and it took about 10 times longer than Drive Image's or Ghost's sector-by-sector copy. The destination partition had to also be pre-made and pre-formatted - it won't copy to "unallocated area" like the other utilities. The copy does end up very well de-fragged due to the file-by-file copying, but that isn't a real "clone" is it? I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? *TimDaniels* |
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xxClone worked to copy a single bootable partition from one
hard drive to another, but it made the copy file-by-file and it took about 10 times longer than Drive Image's or Ghost's sector-by-sector copy. The destination partition had to also be pre-made and pre-formatted - it won't copy to "unallocated area" like the other utilities. The copy does end up very well de-fragged due to the file-by-file copying, but that isn't a real "clone" is it? You are correct. It is not a real clone. For example SFNs might get recreated differently. But in most cases that is not a problem. I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? Did you try a clean install of slipstreamed XP SP2 and Drive Image 7.0 only? |
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Timothy Daniels wrote in message ... xxClone worked to copy a single bootable partition from one hard drive to another, but it made the copy file-by-file Yeah, xxcopy does too, and yes, thats quite slow. and it took about 10 times longer than Drive Image's or Ghost's sector-by-sector copy. DI, Ghost and True Image dont do sector by sector copying normally, because many have the destination a different size to the original, because its mostly used when upgrading the boot drive. Ghost doesnt even do it by default, tho you can use a switch to force that. The destination partition had to also be pre-made and pre-formatted - it won't copy to "unallocated area" like the other utilities. The copy does end up very well de-fragged due to the file-by-file copying, but that isn't a real "clone" is it? Depends entirely on how you define a 'real' clone, see above. I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? Nope, and I have used it since XP SP2. I've got a vague recollection that there is something on that in the Symantec knowledgebase or somewhere about that. I much prefer Acronis True Image now over DI and Ghost. I prefer it to DI because the lan ops are completely automatic. DI is a bit of a pain if the NIC isnt in the native supported list, tho rather better than Ghost 2003 in that area. Ghost 9 has other downsides that I reported on here, particularly with cloning. Basically you cant do it from the bootable CD, you have to do it from the installed Ghost and it didnt even work reliably, tho I was too lazy to check for updates because of that problem that you cant do it from the bootable CD. TI isnt perfect, the support forum has quite a list of quirks, mostly with unusual hardware, and they have a hell of a capacity for fixing something thats been reported and then the problem turns up again in a later release. Thats evidence of very poor source code control. It is however the best of the bunch currently tho, even tho it isnt perfect. |
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"Rod Speed" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote: DI, Ghost and True Image dont do sector by sector copying normally, because many have the destination a different size to the original, because its mostly used when upgrading the boot drive. I'm not clear on the "smart copy" in Drive Image, but I thought that avoided copying parts of the partition where there is no data. I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? Nope, and I have used it since XP SP2. OK, thanks for the clue. At least the problem isn't SP2. Since so much of the feature set of all drive copy utilities is automated and incremental backup to asorted external media, you'd think there would be a simple cheap utitlity that did nothing but clone a partition to another internal IDE drive but do it well. I'd think that some company would even give it away free so it could act as a come-on to its other more elaborate versions. (But no....) Jeez, Symantec, how about just a Ghost Lite? Who even needs a GUI? - command line input with a bootable floppy or CD would be enough. *TimDaniels* |
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"Peter" wrote:
I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? Did you try a clean install of slipstreamed XP SP2 and Drive Image 7.0 only? Well, that does sound logical. If it worked, I'd know it wasn't SP2 and that it's maybe Visual Studio .NET or SQL Server or Norton Anti-Virus or Norton Personal Firewall or Nero Burning or some other software. groaaaan That could take a week to investigate. C'mon, People! I want a QUICK FIX!! *TimDaniels* |
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Would consider NET framework as the primary suspect. MS has a security
update out on it. Its available through windowsupdate in XP. It may have botched that particular update. Ver 1.1 is latest. Ver 2.0 is in the works. "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... xxClone worked to copy a single bootable partition from one hard drive to another, but it made the copy file-by-file and it took about 10 times longer than Drive Image's or Ghost's sector-by-sector copy. The destination partition had to also be pre-made and pre-formatted - it won't copy to "unallocated area" like the other utilities. The copy does end up very well de-fragged due to the file-by-file copying, but that isn't a real "clone" is it? I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? *TimDaniels* |
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... "Peter" wrote: I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? Did you try a clean install of slipstreamed XP SP2 and Drive Image 7.0 only? Well, that does sound logical. If it worked, I'd know it wasn't SP2 and that it's maybe Visual Studio .NET or SQL Server or Norton Anti-Virus or Norton Personal Firewall or Nero Burning or some other software. groaaaan That could take a week to investigate. C'mon, People! I want a QUICK FIX!! Soorreee... fresh out of magic wands to wave. |
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Timothy Daniels wrote in message news Rod Speed wrote Timothy Daniels wrote DI, Ghost and True Image dont do sector by sector copying normally, because many have the destination a different size to the original, because its mostly used when upgrading the boot drive. I'm not clear on the "smart copy" in Drive Image, but I thought that avoided copying parts of the partition where there is no data. Its much more complicated than JUST that, essentially because it has to allow for the most common situation where the source and destination arent the same size. I really wish I could get my Drive Image 7.0 to work again. It started freezing my computer maybe about the time that I installed SP2 in my WinXP Pro. Anybody else have that experience? Nope, and I have used it since XP SP2. OK, thanks for the clue. At least the problem isn't SP2. On the other hand I do vaguely recall something along those lines being mentioned, so maybe its SP2 with something else that matters. Since so much of the feature set of all drive copy utilities is automated and incremental backup to asorted external media, you'd think there would be a simple cheap utitlity that did nothing but clone a partition to another internal IDE drive but do it well. That isnt actually something thats done that much. Its MUCH more common that the original and the clone are different sizes, so the alg used has to allow for that. I'd think that some company would even give it away free Some of the hard drive manufacturers do just that. so it could act as a come-on to its other more elaborate versions. (But no....) Its unlikely that many would need the more elaborate versions, so they dont. Jeez, Symantec, how about just a Ghost Lite? I expect software has more to do with that lucifer fella. Who even needs a GUI? - command line input with a bootable floppy or CD would be enough. Dinosaur stuff, tho some of the hard drive manufacturers have gone that route. Zvi's ute likely fits the description, but it aint free. |
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Did you try a clean install of slipstreamed XP SP2 and
Drive Image 7.0 only? Well, that does sound logical. If it worked, I'd know it wasn't SP2 and that it's maybe Visual Studio .NET or SQL Server or Norton Anti-Virus or Norton Personal Firewall or Nero Burning or some other software. groaaaan That could take a week to investigate. C'mon, People! I want a QUICK FIX!! Try this idea: http://groups.google.dk/groups?hl=en...ax.com# link1 |
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