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"Lenny" wrote in message ... 2. It isn't HTML. It's 'Rich Text'. Actually, rich text IS html. To verify this is indeed the case, just right-click your mail and view the source (outlook express you'll select "properties", and then there's a button to view source in the properties window, ymmv with other mail readers). The polite thing is to not use html in usenet groups as not all mail readers handle it and/or many users don't like it, mails also tend to get unneccessarily large and unwieldy in html format. Yes, I know all that. Having been using Usenet for nearly 11 years, I'm fully conversant with *all* Usenet protocols and etiquette. I believe this to be only the second time I have used rich text (to emphasise a point) out of thousands of sent messages. It's like stepping into the road *once* during a lifetime of safe pedestrianism - hardly worth getting agitated over is it? |
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"Lenny" wrote in message ... Like I said, yours is a very novel way of doing things! Not really. Yes, REALLY. It's not something I've ever heard anyone doing before, and it's not something I've seen advertised as a feature with any soundcard on the PC. Like I said, it might be possible, but its use is so unusual/obscure I've never heard of anyone actually doing it this way. Most people have enough trouble trying to get digital OUTPUT from a SBlive when they play DVD movies ON THE PC...... Simply trying to connect a 'source' audio, in this case a DVD player with appropriate outputs to an amplifier/speaker(s) in this case a SB sound card with appropriate inputs using an appropriate cable. Pretty basic stuff that I'm still convinced *should* work. Basic? Not really. Like I said, you have to understand you're doing things "backwards". It's one thing taking a stereo input and get that to play on the PC's speakers, but dolby digital is an encoded compressed audio format that needs a decoder to process the audio first, and there is no such decoder on the Live/Audigy series cards. Creative supplies a software codec, but the typical use for that is to take a file stored locally on the PC (or on a DVD) and decode it and send to the speaker outputs, not read the digital input, decode and send to the speakers. This might seem like a trivial or even silly distinction but really, it is NOT, not to a computer and/or the software that runs on the same. Like I said last time, easiest solution is to play the DVD on your PC How is that the 'easiest' solution if I don't have a DVD drive? instead and use the TV out feature of your video card because god knows where you will find a program that does what you propose! snip Chances are when they say the Extigy has a hardware decoder is they're not exactly being entirely truthful, Extigy might still use the same software codec that the Live/Audigy cards employ. Wouldn't be the first time Creative 'bent' the truth if that is the case. Eh? So when the say: "As a stand-alone device, simply connect your external DVD player, Game Console or Music playback device to the Coaxial/Optical SPDIF IN for Dolby Digital decoding or analog inputs." .... They're wrong/lying/talking crap then? Sorry...'bending the truth'. We should leave it there. You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about - nor am I convinced you know what you're talking about. Thanks for trying to help anyway. |
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It's like stepping into the road *once* during a lifetime of safe pedestrianism - hardly worth getting agitated over is it? I'm not getting agitated at all, I don't particulary care one way or the other wether you use, plain text or html (though I tend to prefer plain text, as some people select weird-ass fonts and/or colors in their posts which can be a bit annoying), I just wanted to point out the erroneous statement you gave that 'rich text' was not html - which it in fact is as I previously mentioned. |
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How is that the 'easiest' solution if I don't have a DVD drive? Afair, you never mentioned you did not have a DVD drive. Still, just going out and buying one - maybe even a dual-layer compatible burner, as they're dirt cheap these days - might be the easiest, and indeed the cheapest solution for you as getting an Extigy would cost you maybe as much as about twice the price of a DVD burner, and much more than a plain-jane DVDROM drive. Eh? So when the say: "As a stand-alone device, simply connect your external DVD player, Game Console or Music playback device to the Coaxial/Optical SPDIF IN for Dolby Digital decoding or analog inputs." .... They're wrong/lying/talking crap then? I didn't say that. Maybe you should just read my posts instead of trying to read all kinds of stuff I never wrote into my words. My suggestion would be to go back and read my post again, more carefully this time. You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about - nor am I convinced you know what you're talking about. I think it's more a case of bone-headedness on my opposite end that is at work here rather than me not understanding. You have an unusual situation where you want to pipe digital multichannel audio into a PC and get it to play back through your multi-speaker setup and you feel 'it should work', based on I don't know what knowledge and experience. Usually - and with no disrespect meant towards you - when people - often with little to no clue of how computers work - have an idea they think should work with regards to PCs it's something along the lines of they have a cable with a plug on it coming from some device, and there's a socket on the PC where the cable's plug will fit, and they expect that by some form of magic whatever they want to do will simply happen if the plug is inserted into the socket. Like plugging a lamp into a wall socket perhaps. Then, when their idea fails they get disappointed, and sometimes a bit snarky and unpleasant towards the person who told them maybe they were expecting a bit too much when they thought their idea would be a feasible one in the first place. Unfortunately it's not that easy with regards to inputs and outputs on PCs, particulary digital ones involving compression like I already mentioned. A PC is not like a hifi amp where you connect your tape deck and CD player and tuner etc to the inputs, and speakers to the outputs and that's it. On a PC you need some kind of program that will do the job of piping data from input to output in all cases or else nothing at all will happen. With analog stereo audio it's easy, you could probably just start the windows sound recorder and let it sit there while you watch your movie. Encoded digital audio is different though because your SBlive or Audigy does not accept encoded audio, it can't play back such a format. It has to be in raw digital form, and to reach that stage you need a codec for dolby digital sound (also called AC3) that is legally aquired when buying a DVD software player for example, and illegally when downloading a codec pack off the web, such as the K-Lite Codec Pack (google it if you're not that particular with honesty), and you need a program that will read the digital input port, pipe the SPDIF stream coming in through the port through the codec, and then use the windows directsound interface to send the resulting data out to the various speaker outputs on your soundcard. This really isn't everyday stuff, believe you me. Do note I never said it can't be done, just that this is so uncommon I never heard of an utility that is designed for this very purpose. It's possible getting an Extigy will do the trick, but they're fairly expensive, and CPU use is higher with these beasts as well compared to a PCI card so your computer will perform slower. It's marginal under most circumstances, but worth pointing out anyway just so you won't get surprised, because Creative certainly won't tell you that when you read their site about the thing. Also, you probably need a USB2 connector to plug it into to use it to its full capabilies, and if your computer isn't equipped with one of those that's an extra expenditure that has to be made. I just think it's silly to buy new sound playback hardware to replace the fully working stuff you already have when you could simply play your DVDs through your PC instead. The easiest solutions often tend to be the best ones, but okay, you do what you want and take your chances with the Extigy if you want to. You're an adult - hopefully anyway - and can do whatever the hell you want with your money... ;-) Now, feel free to insult my intelligence again if you like, but it won't get you any closer to a solution to your problem... *rolls eyes* |
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"Lenny" wrote in message ... snip yadda yadda Perhaps you could point me to someone more knowledgable and less patronising... Actually don't bother, I might get another thesis. :+) I'm obviously asking in the wrong place. |
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less patronising... Pot, meet kettle. Kettle says: "charmed!" I'm obviously asking in the wrong place. Just a hunch mind you, but I would not be surprised if you find as little success in your endeavour elsewhere as you did here, discounting the practical advice I already gave you of course, which you promptly ignored I might add... Good luck, but don't get snarky again if someone else suggests you'd be better off just getting a DVD drive for your PC and quit trying to faff around so much. |
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