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But I'm asking anyway. How are dual and quad core CPU's
on Overclocking. And does Intel overclock better, or AMD? My Pentium 4 went a good and easy 500MHz before I even needed to think about more vcore. And didn't need much extra to get it further and still on stock cooling. Please don't ask me about ambient temps, it's been too long since I had my Pentium 4c 800. Lol, I remember reading about CPU's being bussed at a little over 1Ghz and had a laugh about it, since that overclockers had been doing so for quite some time before it was even announced. Denny Strausser Jr Fievel Mousekewitz.. Raving Raichu Katt..... |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:47:18 -0400, "Fievel J Mousekewitz"
wrote: But I'm asking anyway. How are dual and quad core CPU's on Overclocking. And does Intel overclock better, or AMD? With current CPU lineupo, it is Intel. Most AMD can do up to 3.2 to 3.5GHz with vcore adjust and decent cooling. Very few got past 3.5GHz and often required extreme cooling solution like LN. Intel OTOH many people have gotten better than 3.5GHz with little or no change in vcore and some have easily reached 4GHz without resorting to expensive cooling set or liquid nitrogen. So go Intel if you want better overclocking. AMD is still good vs Intel when you consider power use, Intel tended to draw more power than AMD. |
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"Impmon" wrote in message
... On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:47:18 -0400, "Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote: But I'm asking anyway. How are dual and quad core CPU's on Overclocking. And does Intel overclock better, or AMD? With current CPU lineupo, it is Intel. Most AMD can do up to 3.2 to 3.5GHz with vcore adjust and decent cooling. Very few got past 3.5GHz and often required extreme cooling solution like LN. Intel OTOH many people have gotten better than 3.5GHz with little or no change in vcore and some have easily reached 4GHz without resorting to expensive cooling set or liquid nitrogen. So go Intel if you want better overclocking. AMD is still good vs Intel when you consider power use, Intel tended to draw more power than AMD. Should've known Intel overclocks better. Fievel. |
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You realize that when you OC the mobo has a lot to do with it...
So yes generally an Intel Core2duo will OC better then a comparable AMD chip..providing you have the approbriate mobo to match up to it. I have my Core2 duo OC'd by about 50% using a Nvidia 650 chipset MOBO and an after market heatpipe cooler with a 120mm fan. But in order to achieve that I did need to up voltages slightly...and it took awhile to find the proper combination of Voltage adjustments and proper airflow thru the case so the test program did not crash the system or overheat the chip pk -- DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) "Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote in message news "Impmon" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:47:18 -0400, "Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote: But I'm asking anyway. How are dual and quad core CPU's on Overclocking. And does Intel overclock better, or AMD? With current CPU lineupo, it is Intel. Most AMD can do up to 3.2 to 3.5GHz with vcore adjust and decent cooling. Very few got past 3.5GHz and often required extreme cooling solution like LN. Intel OTOH many people have gotten better than 3.5GHz with little or no change in vcore and some have easily reached 4GHz without resorting to expensive cooling set or liquid nitrogen. So go Intel if you want better overclocking. AMD is still good vs Intel when you consider power use, Intel tended to draw more power than AMD. Should've known Intel overclocks better. Fievel. |
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"Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote in message . .. But I'm asking anyway. How are dual and quad core CPU's on Overclocking. And does Intel overclock better, or AMD? My Pentium 4 went a good and easy 500MHz before I even needed to think about more vcore. And didn't need much extra to get it further and still on stock cooling. Please don't ask me about ambient temps, it's been too long since I had my Pentium 4c 800. Lol, I remember reading about CPU's being bussed at a little over 1Ghz and had a laugh about it, since that overclockers had been doing so for quite some time before it was even announced. Denny Strausser Jr Fievel Mousekewitz.. Raving Raichu Katt..... The Intel Core2 chips are very good overclockers, the new 45nm chips overclock very well, I have a quad - a Q9450, which is a stock 2.6 ghz chip, running solid at 3.40 ghz, on air. I am sure I could get it to 3.60 ghz, but just don't want to push my core temps any higher. The dual core chips, are getting even better overclocking results. -- Don |
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"peter" wrote in message
news:1_egk.80642$kx.1132@pd7urf3no... You realize that when you OC the mobo has a lot to do with it... So yes generally an Intel Core2duo will OC better then a comparable AMD chip..providing you have the approbriate mobo to match up to it. I have my Core2 duo OC'd by about 50% using a Nvidia 650 chipset MOBO and an after market heatpipe cooler with a 120mm fan. But in order to achieve that I did need to up voltages slightly...and it took awhile to find the proper combination of Voltage adjustments and proper airflow thru the case so the test program did not crash the system or overheat the chip I'm either going cheap, but good for a mb. Like a Gigabyte, which is what I had my Pentium 4 on, when I one time only got it to 3.43 (3,434) from stock of 2.6. Had it running 3.35 I believe, most of the time, had to lock the AGP to get that far. Or. Expensive, like an Asus. Which is a favorite. Remembering those days. I remember focusing on seeing how far I could get my ram, separately. Then trying to run it into the ground till I found a weak point. Don't ask me settings or brands, I don't remember anymore. Which brings me to a question, PCI Express, can it be locked, and is it needed like the AGP lock to overclock further? And TY, you people are very helpful. It'll probably help shape the direction I go in choosing my new system. Fievel. :-) ;-) pk -- DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) "Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote in message news "Impmon" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:47:18 -0400, "Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote: But I'm asking anyway. How are dual and quad core CPU's on Overclocking. And does Intel overclock better, or AMD? With current CPU lineupo, it is Intel. Most AMD can do up to 3.2 to 3.5GHz with vcore adjust and decent cooling. Very few got past 3.5GHz and often required extreme cooling solution like LN. Intel OTOH many people have gotten better than 3.5GHz with little or no change in vcore and some have easily reached 4GHz without resorting to expensive cooling set or liquid nitrogen. So go Intel if you want better overclocking. AMD is still good vs Intel when you consider power use, Intel tended to draw more power than AMD. Should've known Intel overclocks better. Fievel. |
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"Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote in message . .. Which brings me to a question, PCI Express, can it be locked, and is it needed like the AGP lock to overclock further? And TY, you people are very helpful. It'll probably help shape the direction I go in choosing my new system. Fievel. :-) ;-) It is safer to lock the PCI Express bus to its normal value ie 100Mhz (in my case) . If it goes up too high you can get corruption writing to the harddisc , I know I've been there! len |
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"Len Hickman" wrote in message
... "Fievel J Mousekewitz" wrote in message . .. Which brings me to a question, PCI Express, can it be locked, and is it needed like the AGP lock to overclock further? And TY, you people are very helpful. It'll probably help shape the direction I go in choosing my new system. Fievel. :-) ;-) It is safer to lock the PCI Express bus to its normal value ie 100Mhz (in my case) . If it goes up too high you can get corruption writing to the harddisc , I know I've been there! len Knowing me, I'll probably play with it anyway. But I'm sure I'll still get further locking the thing. I'll probably get lower ram, that's known to be good overclocking momory, then test it by it's self first, if the MB gives me the option, before I see how far the CPU goes. Depending on the settings I had my P4's ram set at, the ram would go unstable before the CPU. One up with that though, if I remember. I was able to get DDR 333 up, and over DDR 400. I't a shame I don't have the setup anymore, just to see if it would stay stable turning down the ram and trying to run the CPU at 3434,, just for kicks.... No other reason. :-) Fievel. |
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Like Len said it is safer to lock the PCI-E
I am using some lovely 400 Patriot memory and its running in sync with the FSB.. I would check to see exactly what speed its running but that system is at home and I am not.. The newer Intel/Nvidea chipsets are a little more complicated to OC..I would suggest doing a Google search My mobo is a Gigabyte and was fairly easy to find instructions on OC this specific board. But like all OC ..its best done in stages and test in between for stability. peter -- DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) It is safer to lock the PCI Express bus to its normal value ie 100Mhz (in my case) . If it goes up too high you can get corruption writing to the harddisc , I know I've been there! len |
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It is safer to lock the PCI Express bus to its normal value ie 100Mhz (in
my case) . If it goes up too high you can get corruption writing to the harddisc , I know I've been there! len Knowing me, I'll probably play with it anyway. But I'm sure I'll still get further locking the thing. I'll probably get lower ram, that's known to be good overclocking momory, then test it by it's self first, if the MB gives me the option, before I see how far the CPU goes. Depending on the settings I had my P4's ram set at, the ram would go unstable before the CPU. One up with that though, if I remember. I was able to get DDR 333 up, and over DDR 400. I't a shame I don't have the setup anymore, just to see if it would stay stable turning down the ram and trying to run the CPU at 3434,, just for kicks.... No other reason. :-) Fievel. The PCI-E bus doesn't have any effect on your OC. You can OC the GPU of your video card after you have your desired speeds at the CPU and memory. I have a Q6600 (2.4Ghz) running at 3.2Ghz very easily on an Asus Nvidia 680i SLI board. I always lock the memory down to it's default speeds and overclock the processor first. Then see what my memory will do. I stay pretty conservative with my memory since it has much less impact on real-time system speed than the processor. On most of today's MBs, the memory and processor can be locked together or completely seperated so that increasing the speed on one does not effect the other. There are also ratios like 1:1, 2:1 and 3:1 etc that can be used if you like. I always keep them seperate just to keep things easy and have better control. I think you are confusing something, since the PCI-E bus and memory are not interconnected. Memory and CPU, at least on most OC'ing friendly boards, are also seperate. Ed |
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