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Samsung P460 Laptop Ram
Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit. I do have x64 running on a
different harddisk that I am swiching out. Below ares the specifications: System Name: SAMSUNG-BILL [System Summary] Item Value OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name SAMSUNG-BILL System Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model P460 System Type X86-based PC (Have the 64bit version installed on another harddisk that I am switching out for testing.) System SKU Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2267 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07LQ.M009.20091122.JIP, 11/22/2009 SMBIOS Version 2.5 Embedded Controller Version 255.255 BIOS Mode Legacy BaseBoard Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. BaseBoard Product P460 BaseBoard Version Not Applicable Platform Role Mobile Secure Boot State Unsupported PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.752" User Name SAMSUNG-BILL\Samsung Bill Time Zone Alaskan Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) DDR3 3.00 GB Total Physical Memory 2.96 GB Available Physical Memory 1.52 GB Total Virtual Memory 3.04 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.44 GB Memory Chips Info 1GB 2Rx16 PC-3-8500S-07-00-A0 Korea M471B2874DZ1-CF8 0845 2GB 2Rx8 PC-3-8500S-07-00-F0 Korea M471B5673DZ1-CF8 0845 I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips. Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with this computer. -- Bill Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska |
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit. I do have x64 running on a different harddisk that I am swiching out. Below ares the specifications: System Name: SAMSUNG-BILL [System Summary] Item Value OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name SAMSUNG-BILL System Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model P460 System Type X86-based PC (Have the 64bit version installed on another harddisk that I am switching out for testing.) System SKU Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2267 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07LQ.M009.20091122.JIP, 11/22/2009 SMBIOS Version 2.5 Embedded Controller Version 255.255 BIOS Mode Legacy BaseBoard Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. BaseBoard Product P460 BaseBoard Version Not Applicable Platform Role Mobile Secure Boot State Unsupported PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.752" User Name SAMSUNG-BILL\Samsung Bill Time Zone Alaskan Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) DDR3 3.00 GB Total Physical Memory 2.96 GB Available Physical Memory 1.52 GB Total Virtual Memory 3.04 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.44 GB Memory Chips Info 1GB 2Rx16 PC-3-8500S-07-00-A0 Korea M471B2874DZ1-CF8 0845 2GB 2Rx8 PC-3-8500S-07-00-F0 Korea M471B5673DZ1-CF8 0845 I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips. Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with this computer. https://www.crucial.com/compatible-u...r/samsung/p460 Memory Maximum Memory: 4GB *Not to exceed manufacturer supported memory. Slots: 2 (2 banks of 1) Standard Memory: 3GB removable Crucial 2GB DDR3L-1600 SODIMM CT25664BF160 $14 ??? === I think Crucial removed their 4GB entry here, because they've only got high-density (8 chip total) modules to offer. Intel GM45 + Intel ICH9M/ICH9M-Enhanced Which is exactly the discussion we had in the previous Lenovo T500 thread. Samsung has decided the P460 runs with 2x2GB max (low density or high density). The GM45 datasheet says 2x4GB low density max for 8GB total. The picture here shows a 16 chip low-density module. This is what the previous poster empirically verified, works. F3-8500CL7S-4GB SQ $29 each https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-4gb-20...82E16820231265 If you use CPUZ, you can probably verify it's a GM45. Page 61 shows the largest rank/bank with x8 chips "System Memory Controller". https://web.archive.org/web/20160412...-datasheet.pdf The only other detail, is unbolting the SODIMM slot covers, and verify two slots are available as expected. Paul |
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:34:20 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw"
wrote: Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit. I do have x64 running on a different harddisk that I am swiching out. Below ares the specifications: System Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model P460 System Type X86-based PC (Have the 64bit version installed on another harddisk that I am switching out for testing.) System SKU Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2267 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07LQ.M009.20091122.JIP, 11/22/2009 Installed Physical Memory (RAM) DDR3 3.00 GB Total Physical Memory 2.96 GB Available Physical Memory 1.52 GB Total Virtual Memory 3.04 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.44 GB Memory Chips Info 1GB 2Rx16 PC-3-8500S-07-00-A0 Korea M471B2874DZ1-CF8 0845 2GB 2Rx8 PC-3-8500S-07-00-F0 Korea M471B5673DZ1-CF8 0845 I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips. Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with this computer. I'm not a techie - like the other fine folks here - but I just finished adding RAM to my Lenovo T500 - similar vintage to your Samsung - P8400 2.26 but Win 8 Pro originally Vista. See the recent thread in this newsgroup for my experience - but to summarize - - G.Skill F3-12800CL9S-4GB SQ series DDR3-1600 did not work - I believe this was high density ? 4 chips. - G.Skill F3-8500CL7S-4GB SQ DDR3-1066 did work - I believe this is low density ? 8 chips. I upgraded from 3 GB to 6 GB re-using the 2 GB DIMM. I'm quite sure my max. is 2 x 4 = 8 GB. Not really any significant performance improvement, that I can see yet - but I'm not doing any intensive stuff. The SSD that I installed a couple months ago was more noticeable - start up and shut down significantly improved. The first DIMM was $ 30. Canadian - luckily the store let me exchange it for the $ 35. one. The SSD was Amazon . ca ~ $ 65. free shipping. Crucial MX500 250 Gig. Their software download worked great to duplicate the old HD prior to the swap-out. Good luck. John T. |
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On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:17:56 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw"
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:34:20 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" wrote: Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit. I do have x64 running on a different harddisk that I am swiching out. Below ares the specifications: System Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model P460 System Type X86-based PC (Have the 64bit version installed on another harddisk that I am switching out for testing.) System SKU Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2267 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07LQ.M009.20091122.JIP, 11/22/2009 Installed Physical Memory (RAM) DDR3 3.00 GB Total Physical Memory 2.96 GB Available Physical Memory 1.52 GB Total Virtual Memory 3.04 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.44 GB Memory Chips Info 1GB 2Rx16 PC-3-8500S-07-00-A0 Korea M471B2874DZ1-CF8 0845 2GB 2Rx8 PC-3-8500S-07-00-F0 Korea M471B5673DZ1-CF8 0845 I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips. Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with this computer. I'm not a techie - like the other fine folks here - but I just finished adding RAM to my Lenovo T500 - similar vintage to your Samsung - P8400 2.26 but Win 8 Pro originally Vista. See the recent thread in this newsgroup for my experience - but to summarize - - G.Skill F3-12800CL9S-4GB SQ series DDR3-1600 did not work - I believe this was high density ? 4 chips. - G.Skill F3-8500CL7S-4GB SQ DDR3-1066 did work - I believe this is low density ? 8 chips. I upgraded from 3 GB to 6 GB re-using the 2 GB DIMM. I'm quite sure my max. is 2 x 4 = 8 GB. Not really any significant performance improvement, that I can see yet - but I'm not doing any intensive stuff. The SSD that I installed a couple months ago was more noticeable - start up and shut down significantly improved. The first DIMM was $ 30. Canadian - luckily the store let me exchange it for the $ 35. one. The SSD was Amazon . ca ~ $ 65. free shipping. Crucial MX500 250 Gig. Their software download worked great to duplicate the old HD prior to the swap-out. Good luck. John T. The drive I will use in the end is a SAMSUNG SSD EVO 860. Thiis is the 32 bit drive I currently use. It sounds like you purchased your memory local? Is G.Skill the brand? Bill Waterloo Ontario. https://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?cPath=24_326 G.Skill brand https://www.gskill.com/products/1/2/Laptop-Memory Beware of trusting any online compatability lists. It's good that you are doing your own legwork - beforehand. John T. |
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Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit. I do have x64 running on a different harddisk that I am swiching out. Below ares the specifications: System Name: SAMSUNG-BILL [System Summary] Item Value OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363 Other OS Description Not Available OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name SAMSUNG-BILL System Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model P460 System Type X86-based PC (Have the 64bit version installed on another harddisk that I am switching out for testing.) System SKU Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2267 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07LQ.M009.20091122.JIP, 11/22/2009 SMBIOS Version 2.5 Embedded Controller Version 255.255 BIOS Mode Legacy BaseBoard Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. BaseBoard Product P460 BaseBoard Version Not Applicable Platform Role Mobile Secure Boot State Unsupported PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.752" User Name SAMSUNG-BILL\Samsung Bill Time Zone Alaskan Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) DDR3 3.00 GB Total Physical Memory 2.96 GB Available Physical Memory 1.52 GB Total Virtual Memory 3.04 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.44 GB Memory Chips Info 1GB 2Rx16 PC-3-8500S-07-00-A0 Korea M471B2874DZ1-CF8 0845 2GB 2Rx8 PC-3-8500S-07-00-F0 Korea M471B5673DZ1-CF8 0845 I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips. Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with this computer. https://www.crucial.com/compatible-u...r/samsung/p460 Memory Maximum Memory: 4GB *Not to exceed manufacturer supported memory. Slots: 2 (2 banks of 1) Standard Memory: 3GB removable Crucial 2GB DDR3L-1600 SODIMM CT25664BF160 $14 ??? === I think Crucial removed their 4GB entry here, because they've only got high-density (8 chip total) modules to offer. Intel GM45 + Intel ICH9M/ICH9M-Enhanced Which is exactly the discussion we had in the previous Lenovo T500 thread. Samsung has decided the P460 runs with 2x2GB max (low density or high density). The GM45 datasheet says 2x4GB low density max for 8GB total. The picture here shows a 16 chip low-density module. This is what the previous poster empirically verified, works. F3-8500CL7S-4GB SQ $29 each https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-4gb-20...82E16820231265 If you use CPUZ, you can probably verify it's a GM45. Page 61 shows the largest rank/bank with x8 chips "System Memory Controller". https://web.archive.org/web/20160412...-datasheet.pdf The only other detail, is unbolting the SODIMM slot covers, and verify two slots are available as expected. Paul Using CPUZ The 1GB has 8 chips. The 2GB has 16 chips. Memory SPD ------------------------------------------------------------------------- DIMM # 1 SMBus address 0x50 Memory type DDR3 Module format SO-DIMM Module Manufacturer(ID) Samsung (CE00000000000000000000) Size 2048 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-8500F (533 MHz) Part number M471B5673DZ1-CF8 Serial number 480A1B28 Manufacturing date Week 45/Year 08 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP no AMP no JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 457 MHz JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz JEDEC #3 8.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz DMI Physical Memory Array (I am not sure why this says DDR2 when the computer is suppose to use DDR3 only.) location Motherboard usage System Memory correction None max capacity 4 GB max# of devices 2 DMI Memory Device designation M1 format SODIMM type DDR2 total width 64 bits data width 64 bits size 2 GB DMI Memory Device designation M2 format SODIMM type DDR2 Graphics ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of adapters 1 Graphic APIs ------------------------------------------------------------------------- API D3D API Intel I/O Display Adapters ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Display adapter 0 ID 0x4000000 Name Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family Board Manufacturer 0x144D (0xC045) PCI device bus 0 (0x0), device 2 (0x2), function 0 (0x0) Vendor ID 0x8086 (0x144D) Model ID 0x2A42 (0xC045) Revision ID 0x7 Performance Level 0 This is more info. Hopefully I will not overload anymore. Bill |
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Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:34:20 -0800, "Bill Bradshaw" wrote: Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit. I do have x64 running on a different harddisk that I am swiching out. Below ares the specifications: System Manufacturer SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model P460 System Type X86-based PC (Have the 64bit version installed on another harddisk that I am switching out for testing.) System SKU Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2267 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07LQ.M009.20091122.JIP, 11/22/2009 Installed Physical Memory (RAM) DDR3 3.00 GB Total Physical Memory 2.96 GB Available Physical Memory 1.52 GB Total Virtual Memory 3.04 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.44 GB Memory Chips Info 1GB 2Rx16 PC-3-8500S-07-00-A0 Korea M471B2874DZ1-CF8 0845 2GB 2Rx8 PC-3-8500S-07-00-F0 Korea M471B5673DZ1-CF8 0845 I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips. Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with this computer. I'm not a techie - like the other fine folks here - but I just finished adding RAM to my Lenovo T500 - similar vintage to your Samsung - P8400 2.26 but Win 8 Pro originally Vista. See the recent thread in this newsgroup for my experience - but to summarize - - G.Skill F3-12800CL9S-4GB SQ series DDR3-1600 did not work - I believe this was high density ? 4 chips. - G.Skill F3-8500CL7S-4GB SQ DDR3-1066 did work - I believe this is low density ? 8 chips. I upgraded from 3 GB to 6 GB re-using the 2 GB DIMM. I'm quite sure my max. is 2 x 4 = 8 GB. Not really any significant performance improvement, that I can see yet - but I'm not doing any intensive stuff. The SSD that I installed a couple months ago was more noticeable - start up and shut down significantly improved. The first DIMM was $ 30. Canadian - luckily the store let me exchange it for the $ 35. one. The SSD was Amazon . ca ~ $ 65. free shipping. Crucial MX500 250 Gig. Their software download worked great to duplicate the old HD prior to the swap-out. Good luck. John T. The drive I will use in the end is a SAMSUNG SSD EVO 860. Thiis is the 32 bit drive I currently use. It sounds like you purchased your memory local? Is G.Skill the brand? Bill G.Skill is the brand I have in the test machine (8x8GB DDR3). They used Hynix chips on those. Yours are not likely to be Hynix, because the 8500 DIMMs are a different generation (like... stepping into a time machine). No matter what the brand, always read customer reviews when some are offered (this is because, when chip supplies run out, they may need to find a second source of similar chip, with disasterous consequences). Based on my experience so far with G.Skill, I've had no problems with them. For their enthusiast grade stuff, G.Skill would be about the same as some Corsair or OCZTechnology (when they still existed). The machine I'm typing on has had OCZTechnology (2x1GB), Kingston (Non-HyperX 4x2GB) and Corsair (4x2GB). I don't think G.Skill made stuff for my older machine. And finding that Corsair when I did, was about as unlikely as you guys finding that 8500 sitting around... Paul I ordered the recommended G.Skill from NewEgg. Will report when it arrives and how it goes. Bill |
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Experimenting with Windows 10 Pro 64bit. I want to replace the two chips with 4GB chips. Could use any suggestions what I might need that will work with this computer. I'm not a techie - like the other fine folks here - but I just finished adding RAM to my Lenovo T500 - similar vintage to your Samsung - P8400 2.26 but Win 8 Pro originally Vista. See the recent thread in this newsgroup for my experience - but to summarize - - G.Skill F3-12800CL9S-4GB SQ series DDR3-1600 did not work - I believe this was high density ? 4 chips. - G.Skill F3-8500CL7S-4GB SQ DDR3-1066 did work - I believe this is low density ? 8 chips. I upgraded from 3 GB to 6 GB re-using the 2 GB DIMM. I'm quite sure my max. is 2 x 4 = 8 GB. Not really any significant performance improvement, that I can see yet - but I'm not doing any intensive stuff. The SSD that I installed a couple months ago was more noticeable - start up and shut down significantly improved. The first DIMM was $ 30. Canadian - luckily the store let me exchange it for the $ 35. one. The SSD was Amazon . ca ~ $ 65. free shipping. Crucial MX500 250 Gig. Their software download worked great to duplicate the old HD prior to the swap-out. Good luck. John T. The drive I will use in the end is a SAMSUNG SSD EVO 860. Thiis is the 32 bit drive I currently use. It sounds like you purchased your memory local? Is G.Skill the brand? Bill G.Skill is the brand I have in the test machine (8x8GB DDR3). They used Hynix chips on those. Yours are not likely to be Hynix, because the 8500 DIMMs are a different generation (like... stepping into a time machine). No matter what the brand, always read customer reviews when some are offered (this is because, when chip supplies run out, they may need to find a second source of similar chip, with disasterous consequences). Based on my experience so far with G.Skill, I've had no problems with them. For their enthusiast grade stuff, G.Skill would be about the same as some Corsair or OCZTechnology (when they still existed). The machine I'm typing on has had OCZTechnology (2x1GB), Kingston (Non-HyperX 4x2GB) and Corsair (4x2GB). I don't think G.Skill made stuff for my older machine. And finding that Corsair when I did, was about as unlikely as you guys finding that 8500 sitting around... Paul I ordered the recommended G.Skill from NewEgg. Will report when it arrives and how it goes. Bill As long as you didn't rely on the newegg Memory Finder tool. I just checked for my T500 2242 and it listed the G.Skill DIMM that did not work. ... along with 247 other 4 GB DIMMs. Buyer beware. John T. |
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