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Help! Advice required on Asrock 1333 and E4400 Overclocking please
I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with
little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. The BIOS allows for changes to: CPU Config: Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async CPU Freq: 200-500MHz PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled Ratio Actual Value is locked on 10x Enhanced Halt Stateisabled/Enabled Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled/Enabled CPU Thermal Throttling: Disabled/Enabled Intel SpeedStep: Auto/Enabled/Disabled Chipset Config: DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Didabled VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is duff! Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would be much appreciated. Thanks |
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Help! Advice required on Asrock 1333 and E4400 Overclocking please
I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333
mobo with little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. Is this your board? You didn't mention a model number. http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...&articID=6 22 Got jumpers like that? What does CPU-Z say about your bus speeds (memory, PCI-E) when the CPU frequency is at 210 MHz? |
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Help! Advice required on Asrock 1333 and E4400 Overclocking please
'stevemann' wrote, in part:
| I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | CPU Config: | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled .. .. | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | duff! | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | be much appreciated. _____ Insufficient information. You haven't given information on CPU temperature (loaded and idle) System temperature (loaded and idle) Room ambient temperature cooling system CPU core voltage Memory voltage Memory timing parameters and more. Read the posts in this newsgroup. Read your motherboard manual. Post additional information. None of the parameters you list are all that critical to overclocking. Without more information, and without reading your motherboard manual, I can only guess at proper settings. But I can tell you this, it's NOT the CPU. It's the settings you chose, or the settings that your motherboard does not offer, or the CPU temperature that's the problem. Phil Weldon wrote in message ... |I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | CPU Config: | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled | | Ratio Actual Value is locked on 10x | | Enhanced Halt Stateisabled/Enabled | Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled/Enabled | CPU Thermal Throttling: Disabled/Enabled | Intel SpeedStep: Auto/Enabled/Disabled | | Chipset Config: | DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 | Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled | Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled | | PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Didabled | VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low | VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low | | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | duff! | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | be much appreciated. | | Thanks |
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Help! Advice required on Asrock 1333 and E4400 Overclocking please
Paul wrote:
You have DDR2-533 RAM. The instant you start to overclock the core, the memory frequency goes up too. You need RAM with a bit more room to maneuver. Actually, that CPU is a 200 MHz part, not 266 Mhz. If the ratio was at 1:1, there's be 66 Mhz headroom before the memory was being overclocked. |
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Help! Advice required on Asrock 1333 and E4400 Overclocking please
Phil, Paul, Fishface,
There's not much the Asrock bios allows me to change. The CPU Multiplier is locked at 10x. The manual has just 6 lines discussing Untied Overclocking Technology. i.e. CPU/PCIE Sync v Async. Nothing else. There doesn't appear to be any mobo jumpers to play with for overclocking, just the Bios settings... N.B. The cpu doesn't get much running as it doesn't POST. So temp values are moot. Using standard cooling system that came with the CPU. CPUZ reports: Asrock Conroe 1333-D667 Mobo with chipset Intel i945G/GZ Rev A2 Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) Bios AMI P1.30 07/17/07 Factory settings are Auto, CPU Freq 200MHz. 100MHz PCIE. Core voltage is 1.208v. At standard clock the cores are 41C, CPU 38C, according to Speedfan. Ambient is 20C. DRAM Freq 266MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12, PC2-5300 (333MHz) 1.8v When I run at CPU Freq 210MHz in Sync mode CPUZ reports: Core speed 2100.5 MHz, Bus 210 MHz, Rated FSB 840 MHz DRAM Freq 280.1 MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 And at CPU 220MHz: Core speed 2201.5MHz, Bus 220.2MHz, Rated FSB 880.6MHz DRAM Freq 293.5MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 And at CPU 230MHz: Core speed 2300.5MHz, Bus 230MHz, Rated FSB 920MHz DRAM Freq 306.7MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 Vcore 1.21v, Cores 43C, CPU 39C running SETI. Looks like the RAM may be the cause of the problem as the CPU doesn't POST past 240MHz. If so, what should the settings below be to permit the RAM to overclock: .. Chipset Config: | DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 | Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled | Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled | | PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Disabled | VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low | VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low Your ideas please (other than buying some 667 RAM)? Thanks. On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:40:20 -0500, "Phil Weldon" wrote: 'stevemann' wrote, in part: | I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | CPU Config: | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled . . | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | duff! | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | be much appreciated. _____ Insufficient information. You haven't given information on CPU temperature (loaded and idle) System temperature (loaded and idle) Room ambient temperature cooling system CPU core voltage Memory voltage Memory timing parameters and more. Read the posts in this newsgroup. Read your motherboard manual. Post additional information. None of the parameters you list are all that critical to overclocking. Without more information, and without reading your motherboard manual, I can only guess at proper settings. But I can tell you this, it's NOT the CPU. It's the settings you chose, or the settings that your motherboard does not offer, or the CPU temperature that's the problem. Phil Weldon wrote in message .. . |I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | CPU Config: | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled | | Ratio Actual Value is locked on 10x | | Enhanced Halt Stateisabled/Enabled | Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled/Enabled | CPU Thermal Throttling: Disabled/Enabled | Intel SpeedStep: Auto/Enabled/Disabled | | Chipset Config: | DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 | Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled | Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled | | PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Didabled | VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low | VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low | | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | duff! | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | be much appreciated. | | Thanks |
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Help! Advice required on Asrock 1333 and E4400 Overclocking please
wrote in message
... in part: | There's not much the Asrock bios allows me to change. The CPU | Multiplier is locked at 10x. The manual has just 6 lines discussing | Untied Overclocking Technology. i.e. CPU/PCIE Sync v Async. Nothing | else. There doesn't appear to be any mobo jumpers to play with for | overclocking, just the Bios settings... _____ As 'Fishface' posted, you need to post the exact model of your motherboard. That should be silk-screened on the motherboard or at least should be in the ordering information. The most likely reason your system is not posting is that you have the memory speed set MUCH to high. What you need to do to get a reasonable overclock is to RAISE the CPU clock (your motherboard will either offer a setting of 800 MHz for the FSB speed or 200 MHz for the CPU clock. The FSB is quad-pumped, so 4 X 200 MHz = 800 MHz for your E4400. AND You must set the Memory clock so that the memory is NOT overclocked. Depending on your motherboard (I don't really want to read yet another motherboard manual), this may require EITHER specifically setting the memory clock to ASYNC ( the memory clock is not synchronized to the FSB) and to DDR2-533 OR setting a CPU clock : Memory clock ratio that allows the memory to operate at DDR2-533 specifications or slower. THEN, after picking the correct alternative for your motherboard, Set the CPU clock to 225 MHz or the FSB to 900 MHz, whichever is appropriate for your motherboard. Once you get a mild overclock like 225 MHz X 10 = 2.25 GHz, then you can try to raise the FSB speed (CPU clock) by small increments, testing for stability after EACH change. As some point you may need to raise the CPU core voltage. But perhaps not. I have an overclocked system I am using to post this message: EVGA 680i motherboard E4300 CPU 2 X 1 GByte Patriot DDR2-1066 memory; The FSB speed is set to 1200 MHz, the Memory clock is set to 1200 MHz. For this particular motherboard, that means the CPU clock : DDR2 Memory clock ratio is set to 1:2. This gives a CPU speed of 2.7 GHz. I picked this overclock because the system is stable with the CPU core voltage set BELOW specification, and getting a few more hundred MHz isn't worth the added strain. You have a different motherboard, so additional BIOS settings I use likely will be of little use to you (for one thing, the EVGA 680i motherboard has ~ 50 different overclocking parameters that can be set in the BIOS.) Not to put too fine a point on it, but you are just going to have to get in there and dig. And perhaps spend days trying different settings in the BIOS and different jumper settings (if appropriate for your motherboard.) That's how you learn. That's how all of us learned to overclock. It may take you a month or more to get a satisfactory overclock. Think of it as part of the fun of overclocking (it actually is.) As long as you don't increase the CPU core voltage more than 15%,nothing you can do will destroy your CPU or system as you attempt to overclock. By the way, try to use SOME sort of signature on your posts. Phil Weldon wrote in message ... | Phil, Paul, Fishface, | | There's not much the Asrock bios allows me to change. The CPU | Multiplier is locked at 10x. The manual has just 6 lines discussing | Untied Overclocking Technology. i.e. CPU/PCIE Sync v Async. Nothing | else. There doesn't appear to be any mobo jumpers to play with for | overclocking, just the Bios settings... | | N.B. The cpu doesn't get much running as it doesn't POST. So temp | values are moot. Using standard cooling system that came with the CPU. | CPUZ reports: | Asrock Conroe 1333-D667 Mobo with chipset Intel i945G/GZ Rev A2 | Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) | | Bios AMI P1.30 07/17/07 | | Factory settings are Auto, CPU Freq 200MHz. 100MHz PCIE. Core voltage | is 1.208v. At standard clock the cores are 41C, CPU 38C, according to | Speedfan. Ambient is 20C. | DRAM Freq 266MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12, PC2-5300 (333MHz) 1.8v | | When I run at CPU Freq 210MHz in Sync mode CPUZ reports: | Core speed 2100.5 MHz, Bus 210 MHz, Rated FSB 840 MHz | DRAM Freq 280.1 MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 | | And at CPU 220MHz: | Core speed 2201.5MHz, Bus 220.2MHz, Rated FSB 880.6MHz | DRAM Freq 293.5MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 | | And at CPU 230MHz: | Core speed 2300.5MHz, Bus 230MHz, Rated FSB 920MHz | DRAM Freq 306.7MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 | Vcore 1.21v, Cores 43C, CPU 39C running SETI. | | Looks like the RAM may be the cause of the problem as the CPU doesn't | POST past 240MHz. If so, what should the settings below be to permit | the RAM to overclock: | | . Chipset Config: | | DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 | | Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled | | Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled | | | | PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Disabled | | VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low | | VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low | | Your ideas please (other than buying some 667 RAM)? | | Thanks. | | | | On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:40:20 -0500, "Phil Weldon" | wrote: | | 'stevemann' wrote, in part: | | I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | | | CPU Config: | | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled | . | . | | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | | duff! | | | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | | be much appreciated. | _____ | | Insufficient information. | You haven't given information on | CPU temperature (loaded and idle) | System temperature (loaded and idle) | Room ambient temperature | cooling system | CPU core voltage | Memory voltage | Memory timing parameters | and more. | | Read the posts in this newsgroup. Read your motherboard manual. Post | additional information. | None of the parameters you list are all that critical to overclocking. | | Without more information, and without reading your motherboard manual, I can | only guess at proper settings. But I can tell you this, it's NOT the CPU. | It's the settings you chose, or the settings that your motherboard does not | offer, or the CPU temperature that's the problem. | | Phil Weldon | | | | | | wrote in message | .. . | |I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | | | CPU Config: | | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled | | | | Ratio Actual Value is locked on 10x | | | | Enhanced Halt Stateisabled/Enabled | | Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled/Enabled | | CPU Thermal Throttling: Disabled/Enabled | | Intel SpeedStep: Auto/Enabled/Disabled | | | | Chipset Config: | | DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 | | Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled | | Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled | | | | PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Didabled | | VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low | | VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low | | | | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | | duff! | | | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | | be much appreciated. | | | | Thanks | |
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wrote in message ... Phil, Paul, Fishface, There's not much the Asrock bios allows me to change. The CPU Multiplier is locked at 10x. The manual has just 6 lines discussing Untied Overclocking Technology. i.e. CPU/PCIE Sync v Async. Nothing else. There doesn't appear to be any mobo jumpers to play with for overclocking, just the Bios settings... N.B. The cpu doesn't get much running as it doesn't POST. So temp values are moot. Using standard cooling system that came with the CPU. CPUZ reports: Asrock Conroe 1333-D667 Mobo with chipset Intel i945G/GZ Rev A2 Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) Bios AMI P1.30 07/17/07 Factory settings are Auto, CPU Freq 200MHz. 100MHz PCIE. Core voltage is 1.208v. At standard clock the cores are 41C, CPU 38C, according to Speedfan. Ambient is 20C. DRAM Freq 266MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12, PC2-5300 (333MHz) 1.8v When I run at CPU Freq 210MHz in Sync mode CPUZ reports: Core speed 2100.5 MHz, Bus 210 MHz, Rated FSB 840 MHz DRAM Freq 280.1 MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 And at CPU 220MHz: Core speed 2201.5MHz, Bus 220.2MHz, Rated FSB 880.6MHz DRAM Freq 293.5MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 And at CPU 230MHz: Core speed 2300.5MHz, Bus 230MHz, Rated FSB 920MHz DRAM Freq 306.7MHz, FSBRAM 3:4, 4-4-4-12 Vcore 1.21v, Cores 43C, CPU 39C running SETI. Looks like the RAM may be the cause of the problem as the CPU doesn't POST past 240MHz. If so, what should the settings below be to permit the RAM to overclock: . Chipset Config: | DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 | Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled | Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled | | PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Disabled | VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low | VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low Your ideas please (other than buying some 667 RAM)? Thanks. On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:40:20 -0500, "Phil Weldon" wrote: 'stevemann' wrote, in part: | I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | CPU Config: | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled . . | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | duff! | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | be much appreciated. _____ Insufficient information. You haven't given information on CPU temperature (loaded and idle) System temperature (loaded and idle) Room ambient temperature cooling system CPU core voltage Memory voltage Memory timing parameters and more. Read the posts in this newsgroup. Read your motherboard manual. Post additional information. None of the parameters you list are all that critical to overclocking. Without more information, and without reading your motherboard manual, I can only guess at proper settings. But I can tell you this, it's NOT the CPU. It's the settings you chose, or the settings that your motherboard does not offer, or the CPU temperature that's the problem. Phil Weldon wrote in message . .. |I have been trying to overclock my E4400 in an Asrock 1333 mobo with | little success. I have DDR2 533 RAM fitted. | | The BIOS allows for changes to: | | CPU Config: | Overclock mode: Auto, CPU,PCIE Sync or Async | CPU Freq: 200-500MHz | PCIE Freq: 70-150MHz | Boot Failure guard: Enabled/Disabled | Spread Spectrum: Auto/Disabled | | Ratio Actual Value is locked on 10x | | Enhanced Halt Stateisabled/Enabled | Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled/Enabled | CPU Thermal Throttling: Disabled/Enabled | Intel SpeedStep: Auto/Enabled/Disabled | | Chipset Config: | DRAM Freq: AUTO/266/333 | Flexibility Option: Disabled/Enabled | Config DRAM Timing by SPD: Enabled/Disabled | | PCI Fix Function: Enabled/Didabled | VCCM Voltage: Auto/High/Middle/Low | VDDQ Voltage: Auto/High/Low | | I have tried stepping the CPU Freq from 200 to 326MHz under Auto, and | Async. Nothing above 210MHz works. I can't believe that this E4400 is | duff! | | Any help in getting the config settings right to boot to 2.6GHz would | be much appreciated. | | Thanks The look of that BIOS seems familiar. Some tips for starters, in order of importance: A. NEVER use Auto or Sync mode for overclocking. Select Async and increase the CPU speed from there. B. In the memory settings, set the memory speed manually to 266MHz (DDR2-533) rather than using AUTO. C. Set all the memory timings like tRAS and whatever they're all called to AUTO. Disable spread spectrum. and - config DRAM timing by SPD - try it both ways and see what's best. and - set all voltages to AUTO. You should get to 266MHz with these settings, which would give your E4400 2.66GHz. Finally, If all else fails: Enable the flexibility option AND set the memory speed in 'B' above to AUTO. It relaxes memory timings and generally allows you to use any type of memory, at great cost to memory bandwidth. Let us know how things go. If it still doesn't go to that speed, you could consider the BSEL mod that we can tell you about. And if it STILL won't work, there is another mod to increase the default voltage that your motherboard supplies to your CPU (works with all motherboards), but report back first. Lastly, could you download 'CPU-Z' and let us know what 'core voltage' shows - this could tell us if the motherboard is to blame. Regards, Dr.White. |
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