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On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:53:20 +0200, android wrote:
Depending on the software i would try to treat each 110 strip as one picture and crop them afterwards. I've been down this route, and the only thing that really works for these old 110 sizes is a customozed film holder, It makes the whole thing feasible and straightforward, and you don't have to cut up the negs... Cost from around $20, some people make their own but I don't have the skill for that. Make sure you get the one for your scanner. This is one supplier. http://www.negative-solutions.com/index.html I got mine from these people: http://www.filmscanusa.net/ Be aware, the old 110 negs are pretty grainy in comparison with 35mm. They were never meant to last. |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:08:23 +0200, none@given wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:53:20 +0200, android wrote: Depending on the software i would try to treat each 110 strip as one picture and crop them afterwards. I've been down this route, and the only thing that really works for these old 110 sizes is a customozed film holder, It makes the whole thing feasible and straightforward, and you don't have to cut up the negs... Cost from around $20, some people make their own but I don't have the skill for that. Make sure you get the one for your scanner. This is one supplier. http://www.negative-solutions.com/index.html I got mine from these people: http://www.filmscanusa.net/ Be aware, the old 110 negs are pretty grainy in comparison with 35mm. They were never meant to last. This item might be just what you need: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...hps_bw_g229_i1 |
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In article , none@given
wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:08:23 +0200, none@given wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:53:20 +0200, android wrote: Depending on the software i would try to treat each 110 strip as one picture and crop them afterwards. I've been down this route, and the only thing that really works for these old 110 sizes is a customozed film holder, It makes the whole thing feasible and straightforward, and you don't have to cut up the negs... Cost from around $20, some people make their own but I don't have the skill for that. Make sure you get the one for your scanner. This is one supplier. http://www.negative-solutions.com/index.html I got mine from these people: http://www.filmscanusa.net/ Be aware, the old 110 negs are pretty grainy in comparison with 35mm. They were never meant to last. This item might be just what you need: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...hps_bw_g229_i1 Oki... That one holds to strips. Should make life easier for the OP. -- teleportation kills |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:23:50 +0200, android wrote:
In article , none@given wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:08:23 +0200, none@given wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:53:20 +0200, android wrote: Depending on the software i would try to treat each 110 strip as one picture and crop them afterwards. I've been down this route, and the only thing that really works for these old 110 sizes is a customozed film holder, It makes the whole thing feasible and straightforward, and you don't have to cut up the negs... Cost from around $20, some people make their own but I don't have the skill for that. Make sure you get the one for your scanner. This is one supplier. http://www.negative-solutions.com/index.html I got mine from these people: http://www.filmscanusa.net/ Be aware, the old 110 negs are pretty grainy in comparison with 35mm. They were never meant to last. This item might be just what you need: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...hps_bw_g229_i1 Oki... That one holds to strips. Should make life easier for the OP. Yes, it lets you scan the individual negatives or slides and thus get the best out of each one, Also holds slightly curling negatives flat for the scan. Much better results than with trying to scan a whole strip at once and then editing it. Definitely worth the investment in my experience, I was able to scan negatives that I thought were un-doable. One point though: a lot of the old 110 color negative films really lose color over time, so you'll probably need to do some correction with software. Apart from the convenient size, that 110 format was probably one of the worst ever in terms of preservation. |
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In article , none@given
wrote: One point though: a lot of the old 110 color negative films really lose color over time, so you'll probably need to do some correction with software. Apart from the convenient size, that 110 format was probably one of the worst ever in terms of preservation. it was no different than the same film in any other size. |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:33:06 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , none@given wrote: One point though: a lot of the old 110 color negative films really lose color over time, so you'll probably need to do some correction with software. Apart from the convenient size, that 110 format was probably one of the worst ever in terms of preservation. it was no different than the same film in any other size. Based on my experience, I would disagree. The color Instamatic films that I have scanned from the 1970s are noticeably more degraded than other formats from the same time or before it. The 110 in particular seems to be worse than all the others. I appreciate however that I may have just been consistently unlucky with the film I bought at that time. Others may find the same however. |
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In article , none@given
wrote: One point though: a lot of the old 110 color negative films really lose color over time, so you'll probably need to do some correction with software. Apart from the convenient size, that 110 format was probably one of the worst ever in terms of preservation. it was no different than the same film in any other size. Based on my experience, I would disagree. The color Instamatic films that I have scanned from the 1970s are noticeably more degraded than other formats from the same time or before it. The 110 in particular seems to be worse than all the others. if the fading was not the same, then you bought *different* film in the smaller size. film from the 1970s faded more than most, but that wasn't limited to 110 format. if you bought the same film in 35mm or 120 at the same time as the 110, it would also have faded just as much. what matters is the film formulation, not how big or small it is. |
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On 04/30/2016 08:20 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , none@given wrote: One point though: a lot of the old 110 color negative films really lose color over time, so you'll probably need to do some correction with software. Apart from the convenient size, that 110 format was probably one of the worst ever in terms of preservation. it was no different than the same film in any other size. Based on my experience, I would disagree. The color Instamatic films that I have scanned from the 1970s are noticeably more degraded than other formats from the same time or before it. The 110 in particular seems to be worse than all the others. if the fading was not the same, then you bought *different* film in the smaller size. film from the 1970s faded more than most, but that wasn't limited to 110 format. if you bought the same film in 35mm or 120 at the same time as the 110, it would also have faded just as much. what matters is the film formulation, not how big or small it is. The film formulation may be the issue. The pocket instamatic was introduced in 1972. Kodak also introduced C-41 process film in the same year. Some film manufacturers "didn't get the memo", and made 110 film in the older C-22 process. Some early processors of C-41 film also might not have gotten the memo, and may have had some growing pains with the C-41 process. So it is possible that the OP is comparing C-22 process film with C-41 film, or it is possible that the "lab" that processed his film was using the wrong process or the correct process incorrectly ("Fixer is fixer- let's not waste this C-22 fixer- we'll just mix it with the C-41 stuff!") In order to say that 110 film faded more or the same as other film sizes, more information is needed, to be sure that the comparison is valid. -- Ken Hart |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 11:18:28 -0400, Ken Hart
what matters is the film formulation, not how big or small it is. The film formulation may be the issue. The pocket instamatic was introduced in 1972. Kodak also introduced C-41 process film in the same year. Some film manufacturers "didn't get the memo", and made 110 film in the older C-22 process. Some early processors of C-41 film also might not have gotten the memo, and may have had some growing pains with the C-41 process. So it is possible that the OP is comparing C-22 process film with C-41 film, or it is possible that the "lab" that processed his film was using the wrong process or the correct process incorrectly ("Fixer is fixer- let's not waste this C-22 fixer- we'll just mix it with the C-41 stuff!") In order to say that 110 film faded more or the same as other film sizes, more information is needed, to be sure that the comparison is valid. This is quite probable. That said, the core point is that when scanning 110, these issues are made more tryng by that format's tiny size and fiddly handling when it comes to scanning negatives. Not least when the film is no longer perfectly flat. This is why in my opinion, it pays to invest the small sum for a specialized film holder for the purpose rather than trying to wing it with crude workarounds and bodges. At the very least, you start off with the best scan you can get out of it. |
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