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September 22nd 06, 01:51 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
Are the newer Dell pc's SATA and EIDE capable off the mobo? If not,
can I just add an EIDE cable and pci card to run an EIDE "slave" hard drive in it? Thanks. 
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September 22nd 06, 01:55 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
rob wrote in message ... Are the newer Dell pc's SATA and EIDE capable off the mobo? If not, can I just add an EIDE cable and pci card to run an EIDE "slave" hard drive in it? Thanks. Most have 2 or 4 SATA connectors, but only ONE EIDE connector, which is used for the optical drives. If you only have one optical, you could put a drive in place of the second optical, but that's it. Tom
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September 22nd 06, 02:11 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
all that plus you can add a pci card to support additional ide drives...
weather or not you can make them bootable drives in late model dells is unknown to me and hasn't been discussed here as far as i know. you may also want to obtain a y connector for an ide type power connector as you will not find one readily available if you have two optical drives. alternatively you could just buy a inexpensive usb enclosure for your spare ide drive for as little as $20 on newegg.com. "Tom Scales" wrote in message ... rob wrote in message ... Are the newer Dell pc's SATA and EIDE capable off the mobo? If not, can I just add an EIDE cable and pci card to run an EIDE "slave" hard drive in it? Thanks. Most have 2 or 4 SATA connectors, but only ONE EIDE connector, which is used for the optical drives. If you only have one optical, you could put a drive in place of the second optical, but that's it. Tom
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September 22nd 06, 02:57 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
Christopher Muto wrote: all that plus you can add a pci card to support additional ide drives... weather or not you can make them bootable drives in late model dells is unknown to me and hasn't been discussed here as far as i know. You can boot from a controller card.
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September 22nd 06, 04:44 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
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ups.com... Christopher Muto wrote: all that plus you can add a pci card to support additional ide drives... weather or not you can make them bootable drives in late model dells is unknown to me and hasn't been discussed here as far as i know. You can boot from a controller card. in theory yes, but do you have actual experience? if so, which card? thanks.
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September 22nd 06, 05:09 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:44:57 GMT, "Christopher Muto"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Christopher Muto wrote: all that plus you can add a pci card to support additional ide drives... weather or not you can make them bootable drives in late model dells is unknown to me and hasn't been discussed here as far as i know. You can boot from a controller card. in theory yes, but do you have actual experience? if so, which card? thanks. But I don't need it bootable but rather a slave. See my orig post. thanks.
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September 22nd 06, 05:12 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
Christopher Muto wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Christopher Muto wrote: all that plus you can add a pci card to support additional ide drives... weather or not you can make them bootable drives in late model dells is unknown to me and hasn't been discussed here as far as i know. You can boot from a controller card. in theory yes, but do you have actual experience? if so, which card? thanks. I've done several in the Promise Ultra 66, Ultra 100 and ultra 133 family. There was a set of dell computers that actually shipped with an ultra 66 hdd controller. They all seem to work fine. The ultra 66 is easiest for me, since the windows 2000 setup disk actually recognises the controller without need of the txtsetup drivers. The controllers also work just fine for CDS, and zips.
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September 22nd 06, 05:12 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
Christopher Muto wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Christopher Muto wrote: all that plus you can add a pci card to support additional ide drives... weather or not you can make them bootable drives in late model dells is unknown to me and hasn't been discussed here as far as i know. You can boot from a controller card. in theory yes, but do you have actual experience? if so, which card? thanks. I've done several in the Promise Ultra 66, Ultra 100 and ultra 133 family. There was a set of dell computers that actually shipped with an ultra 66 hdd controller. They all seem to work fine. The ultra 66 is easiest for me, since the windows 2000 setup disk actually recognises the controller without need of the txtsetup drivers. The controllers also work just fine for CDS, and zips.
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September 22nd 06, 06:03 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
rob wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:44:57 GMT, "Christopher Muto" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Christopher Muto wrote: all that plus you can add a pci card to support additional ide drives... weather or not you can make them bootable drives in late model dells is unknown to me and hasn't been discussed here as far as i know. You can boot from a controller card. in theory yes, but do you have actual experience? if so, which card? thanks. But I don't need it bootable but rather a slave. See my orig post. thanks. Then no problem. A controller card will still work for that.
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September 22nd 06, 09:21 AM
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Can SATA and EIDE hard drives co-exist in the newer Dell pc's ?
rob wrote:
But I don't need it bootable but rather a slave. PATA hard drives jumpered as Slave are bootable. They can hold the boot files (which includes the boot manager/loader), and they can hold the OS. All that is required is that the hard drive be at the head of the BIOS's hard drive boot order. By *default*, the hard drive jumpered as Master on IDE ch. 0 is at the head of the hard drive boot order, but that can be changed in the BIOS by the user, and it can be changed by merely removing the Master hard drive. Besides this *default* relative boot order, there is no other difference between Master and Slave identities. You can even put a lone hard drive jumpered as Slave at the end of the IDE cable, and it can boot fine, and you can also add a hard drive jumpered as Master on the middle position on the IDE cable, and if the Slave hard drive is at the head of the BIOS's hard drive boot order, the Slave will control booting. *TimDaniels*
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