Wireless Router speed question

Well, I am not an expert on computers I can assure you, but I can also tell
you that using a password on a network will have absolutely nothing to do
with the wireless network speed.

It has no more to do with network speed than if you type all your text in
upper case.

Encryption yes, but using a password ?? No.

James

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I don't know the theory behind it so Google is your best friend. I
just know it happens. My guess is that it has to do with more
overhead that the router has to deal with... sorta like a software
firewall comes to mind when it kicks in.

"James" no wrote in message
...
Well, I am not an expert on computers I can assure you, but I can also
tell you that using a password on a network will have absolutely nothing
to do with the wireless network speed.

It has no more to do with network speed than if you type all your text in
upper case.

Encryption yes, but using a password ?? No.

James





By "password", I assumed the OP meant (WEP or WPA) passkey to connect to the
router once security was set on the router itself.

I also assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that his previous faster connection
speeds were prior to the router being locked/secured with (WEP or WPA)
encryption - or that the router broadcast was wide open/unsecured.

I'm not sure what your issue is.

On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 08:32:30 -0600, "S.Lewis"
wrote:


"James" no wrote in message
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Well, I am not an expert on computers I can assure you, but I can also
tell you that using a password on a network will have absolutely nothing
to do with the wireless network speed.

It has no more to do with network speed than if you type all your text in
upper case.

Encryption yes, but using a password ?? No.

James





By "password", I assumed the OP meant (WEP or WPA) passkey to connect to the
router once security was set on the router itself.

I also assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that his previous faster connection
speeds were prior to the router being locked/secured with (WEP or WPA)
encryption - or that the router broadcast was wide open/unsecured.

I'm not sure what your issue is.


Well put Stew as I assumed 100% like yourself. He doesn't realize a
password on the network is not the same as on the router. Your post
said it better than mine. And yes, what is his issue??? If he
doesn't like our answers, he can google it !!

Brian, I can't recall my speed the last time I did something like this
(perhaps 2 yrs ago) but even if I did, it doesn't mean a lot because
the router, distance, walls, etc... could affect the transfer speed
for a wireless setup. Inotherwords I could do the same transfer but
change routers and get 2 different actual wireless speeds.


RnR, I use the transfer speed as a guide. I'll bet the OP's transfer speed
is the same whether his link speed is 130 Mbps or 54 Mbps. A few years ago
my link speed halved with a Linksys Speed-booster system. It happened after
upgrading the router firmware. There was no change in transfer speed.

Actual wireless transfer speed, under the best of conditions (computers and
router in the same room), is a lot slower than many people realize. With
wireless G for example it's only 8 to 16 Mbps. (1 to 2 MB/sec) If you have
any spare time I'd be interested in your results with your Wireless N.

By "password", I assumed the OP meant (WEP or WPA) passkey to connect to the
router once security was set on the router itself.

I also assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that his previous faster connection
speeds were prior to the router being locked/secured with (WEP or WPA)
encryption - or that the router broadcast was wide open/unsecured.


Your assumption above is correct, I was not asking about a network
password, I was referring to securing the router via WPA encryption.
Thanks for the discussion, it helps understand the issue and I will
google for more understanding.

On Jan 1, 3:24*pm, "Brian K" wrote:
Brian, I can't recall my speed the last time I did something like this
(perhaps 2 yrs ago) but even if I did, it doesn't mean a lot because
the router, distance, walls, etc... *could affect the transfer speed
for a wireless setup. *Inotherwords I could do the same transfer but
change routers and get 2 different actual wireless speeds.

RnR, I use the transfer speed as a guide. I'll bet the OP's transfer speed
is the same whether his link speed is 130 Mbps or 54 Mbps. A few years ago
my link speed halved with a Linksys Speed-booster system. It happened after
upgrading the router firmware. There was no change in transfer speed.

Actual wireless transfer speed, under the best of conditions (computers and
router in the same room), is a lot slower than many people realize. With
wireless G for example it's only 8 to 16 Mbps. (1 to 2 MB/sec) If you have
any spare time I'd be interested in your results with your Wireless N.

Brian,
Not sure what utility you would use to test speed but I ran into
SpeedTest a few weeks back and here is what I get this morning, from
CT to Clifton NJ:
Download 12541 kbps and Upload 3967 kbps - I use cable internet
service with Cox Communications. So maybe my connection speed should
not be an issue for me as the transfer rate of info will always likely
be an order of magnitude slower that the connection.
-TrekMan

"Trekman" wrote in message
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By "password", I assumed the OP meant (WEP or WPA) passkey to connect to
the
router once security was set on the router itself.

I also assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that his previous faster connection
speeds were prior to the router being locked/secured with (WEP or WPA)
encryption - or that the router broadcast was wide open/unsecured.


Your assumption above is correct, I was not asking about a network
password, I was referring to securing the router via WPA encryption.
Thanks for the discussion, it helps understand the issue and I will
google for more understanding.

Rather interesting that the speed reduction put your connection right in
line with 802.11G speeds. You might want to look into the router
documentation and see if this is a noted issue there.

"RnR" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:41:02 GMT, "Brian K"
wrote:


130 Mbps is 16 MB/sec and 54 Mbps is 7 MB/sec.

Guys, what transfer rate do you really get (in MB/sec) when you transfer
about 100 MB (or more) of MP3 size files between two computers connected
to
a router via wireless? It will be nothing like the theoretical figures.

Just time the transfer in seconds.


Brian, I can't recall my speed the last time I did something like this
(perhaps 2 yrs ago) but even if I did, it doesn't mean a lot because
the router, distance, walls, etc... could affect the transfer speed
for a wireless setup. Inotherwords I could do the same transfer but
change routers and get 2 different actual wireless speeds.

All of the factors you noted will effect transfer speeds to varying degrees
as will anything that interferes with the signal electronically as well as
physically. Movement of either end-point device will effect the transfer
rate for better or worse, depending on what ever lies between.

The two cheapest ways to improve your speed are to move the endpoints and to
try different channels as much as possible.

"Trekman" wrote in message
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On Jan 1, 3:24 pm, "Brian K" wrote:
Brian, I can't recall my speed the last time I did something like this
(perhaps 2 yrs ago) but even if I did, it doesn't mean a lot because
the router, distance, walls, etc... could affect the transfer speed
for a wireless setup. Inotherwords I could do the same transfer but
change routers and get 2 different actual wireless speeds.

RnR, I use the transfer speed as a guide. I'll bet the OP's transfer speed
is the same whether his link speed is 130 Mbps or 54 Mbps. A few years ago
my link speed halved with a Linksys Speed-booster system. It happened
after
upgrading the router firmware. There was no change in transfer speed.

Actual wireless transfer speed, under the best of conditions (computers
and
router in the same room), is a lot slower than many people realize. With
wireless G for example it's only 8 to 16 Mbps. (1 to 2 MB/sec) If you have
any spare time I'd be interested in your results with your Wireless N.

Brian,
Not sure what utility you would use to test speed but I ran into
SpeedTest a few weeks back and here is what I get this morning, from
CT to Clifton NJ:
Download 12541 kbps and Upload 3967 kbps - I use cable internet
service with Cox Communications. So maybe my connection speed should
not be an issue for me as the transfer rate of info will always likely
be an order of magnitude slower that the connection.
-TrekMan

LAN speeds (wired or wireless) can not be accurately tested by such outside
the LAN speed test. These test are for checking the speed from the source
to the MODEM. The are most accurate when done from a computer just inside
the MODEM.

"Kevin Childers" wrote in message
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"Trekman" wrote in message
...

By "password", I assumed the OP meant (WEP or WPA) passkey to connect to
the
router once security was set on the router itself.

I also assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that his previous faster connection
speeds were prior to the router being locked/secured with (WEP or WPA)
encryption - or that the router broadcast was wide open/unsecured.


Your assumption above is correct, I was not asking about a network
password, I was referring to securing the router via WPA encryption.
Thanks for the discussion, it helps understand the issue and I will
google for more understanding.

Rather interesting that the speed reduction put your connection right in
line with 802.11G speeds. You might want to look into the router
documentation and see if this is a noted issue there.



That was my interest also. My concern was that some device is defaulting
back to G speeds through auto-negotiation once encryption is in place -
perhaps due to some incompatibility with WPA2........