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proactively replace HP fuser?
So, I have a HP LaserJet 5000 which has 150k pages on it. The HP
recommendation is to do a major service - fuser and rollers at this point. What is the convenitional wisdom on this? Should I do it? Should I just do the rollers and wait for the fuser to die before replacing it? Left to my own, I will probably do the rollers but not the fuser as the rollers are cheap and aftermarket fuser probably isn't going to last as long as the original. |
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On 1-Jul-2007, "Rev. G.G. Willikers " wrote: So, I have a HP LaserJet 5000 which has 150k pages on it. The HP recommendation is to do a major service - fuser and rollers at this point. What is the convenitional wisdom on this? Wait until it goes wrong, some HP LaserWriters from the late 80's like the LaserJet IID & III are still going strong, though I did have to re-engineer the fuser part of the AC power supply when the triac went south. Fuser itself no problems, you can still get replacement bulbs if you need one, but no same part number replacement for the triac or opto-coupler. |
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Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote: GMAN wrote: In article , (Richard Kovalcik) wrote: I have been using my Laserjet 5 since 1997 and have yet needed to change anything but toner. I guess i have been lucky. But yeah, sounds like rollers might help, but only if you have been having feed problems. Using quality paper and keeping the interior mechanisms dust/toner free goes a long way to extending longevity. I worked for a major oil companies HQ, and they used nothing but recycled paper in ALL of the printers and Xerox machines. What a complete nightmare. The fibers not only jammed the rollers, but got into every fan vent and heatsink in the place. Note that the subject of the message included the word "proactively". (Knock on wood), I'm having no real problems with this HP LaserJet 5000. It's working fine, but I was wondering what I should do. Are there any horror stories of the fuser self-destructing and damaging the printer? Like, you *DO* replace the timing chain on your car when it says to, least the timing chain self destruct, the pistons go wild, smash the valves, and saving $500 on a timing chain has now cost you over $5k. But it sounds like my gut feel that I didn't need to replace the fuser at 150k pages was correct. Unfortunately, the provance of all of my laser printers is ugly. This HP LaserJet 5000 and my HP Color LaserJet 5M both came from US High Tech companies who thought it was cheaper to get rid of them. (In this case, the company bought an Epson (for about $500) rather than do the $200 service we are talking about here. The Epson has been broken about 1/2 of the time. And they effectively gave away the HP LJ 5000 with two unopened toners. Their loss is my gain.) My other HP LJ 5000, I picked up for change because it had a failed fuser after less than 100k copies. (It also had a working duplexer and a JetDirect card which were worth more than I paid for it.) It was jamming often and it looked like it had been thru a war. I suspect it came from a very dirty environment. So, I replaced the rollers when I replaced the fuser on that one. So, while I am only using quality paper now, I have no real idea what sort of paper was used in the past. Given how cheap / stupid the companies I got these printers from were, I should probably assume the worst - that they used cheap paper too. I have tried to carefully clean the inside of the printers, but I don't want to go crazy with a shop vac. |
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(Richard Kovalcik) wrote:
In article , Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote: GMAN wrote: In article , (Richard Kovalcik) wrote: I have been using my Laserjet 5 since 1997 and have yet needed to change anything but toner. I guess i have been lucky. But yeah, sounds like rollers might help, but only if you have been having feed problems. Using quality paper and keeping the interior mechanisms dust/toner free goes a long way to extending longevity. I worked for a major oil companies HQ, and they used nothing but recycled paper in ALL of the printers and Xerox machines. What a complete nightmare. The fibers not only jammed the rollers, but got into every fan vent and heatsink in the place. Note that the subject of the message included the word "proactively". (Knock on wood), I'm having no real problems with this HP LaserJet 5000. It's working fine, but I was wondering what I should do. Are there any horror stories of the fuser self-destructing and damaging the printer? No there aren't, I have never seen or heard of that. Tony Like, you *DO* replace the timing chain on your car when it says to, least the timing chain self destruct, the pistons go wild, smash the valves, and saving $500 on a timing chain has now cost you over $5k. But it sounds like my gut feel that I didn't need to replace the fuser at 150k pages was correct. Unfortunately, the provance of all of my laser printers is ugly. This HP LaserJet 5000 and my HP Color LaserJet 5M both came from US High Tech companies who thought it was cheaper to get rid of them. (In this case, the company bought an Epson (for about $500) rather than do the $200 service we are talking about here. The Epson has been broken about 1/2 of the time. And they effectively gave away the HP LJ 5000 with two unopened toners. Their loss is my gain.) My other HP LJ 5000, I picked up for change because it had a failed fuser after less than 100k copies. (It also had a working duplexer and a JetDirect card which were worth more than I paid for it.) It was jamming often and it looked like it had been thru a war. I suspect it came from a very dirty environment. So, I replaced the rollers when I replaced the fuser on that one. So, while I am only using quality paper now, I have no real idea what sort of paper was used in the past. Given how cheap / stupid the companies I got these printers from were, I should probably assume the worst - that they used cheap paper too. I have tried to carefully clean the inside of the printers, but I don't want to go crazy with a shop vac. |
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Richard Kovalcik wrote:
In article , Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote: GMAN wrote: In article , (Richard Kovalcik) wrote: I have been using my Laserjet 5 since 1997 and have yet needed to change anything but toner. I guess i have been lucky. But yeah, sounds like rollers might help, but only if you have been having feed problems. Using quality paper and keeping the interior mechanisms dust/toner free goes a long way to extending longevity. I worked for a major oil companies HQ, and they used nothing but recycled paper in ALL of the printers and Xerox machines. What a complete nightmare. The fibers not only jammed the rollers, but got into every fan vent and heatsink in the place. Note that the subject of the message included the word "proactively". (Knock on wood), I'm having no real problems with this HP LaserJet 5000. It's working fine, but I was wondering what I should do. Are there any horror stories of the fuser self-destructing and damaging the printer? Like, you *DO* replace the timing chain on your car when it says to, least the timing chain self destruct, the pistons go wild, smash the valves, and saving $500 on a timing chain has now cost you over $5k. But it sounds like my gut feel that I didn't need to replace the fuser at 150k pages was correct. Unfortunately, the provance of all of my laser printers is ugly. This HP LaserJet 5000 and my HP Color LaserJet 5M both came from US High Tech companies who thought it was cheaper to get rid of them. (In this case, the company bought an Epson (for about $500) rather than do the $200 service we are talking about here. The Epson has been broken about 1/2 of the time. And they effectively gave away the HP LJ 5000 with two unopened toners. Their loss is my gain.) My other HP LJ 5000, I picked up for change because it had a failed fuser after less than 100k copies. (It also had a working duplexer and a JetDirect card which were worth more than I paid for it.) It was jamming often and it looked like it had been thru a war. I suspect it came from a very dirty environment. So, I replaced the rollers when I replaced the fuser on that one. So, while I am only using quality paper now, I have no real idea what sort of paper was used in the past. Given how cheap / stupid the companies I got these printers from were, I should probably assume the worst - that they used cheap paper too. I have tried to carefully clean the inside of the printers, but I don't want to go crazy with a shop vac. I have acquired many an hp on the cheap and sold the JetDirect card for more than the printer cost me. Hope the secret doesn't get out Dumpster diving has its upside. |
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In article , (Richard Kovalcik) wrote:
In article , Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote: GMAN wrote: In article , (Richard Kovalcik) wrote: I have been using my Laserjet 5 since 1997 and have yet needed to change anything but toner. I guess i have been lucky. But yeah, sounds like rollers might help, but only if you have been having feed problems. Using quality paper and keeping the interior mechanisms dust/toner free goes a long way to extending longevity. I worked for a major oil companies HQ, and they used nothing but recycled paper in ALL of the printers and Xerox machines. What a complete nightmare. The fibers not only jammed the rollers, but got into every fan vent and heatsink in the place. Note that the subject of the message included the word "proactively". (Knock on wood), I'm having no real problems with this HP LaserJet 5000. It's working fine, but I was wondering what I should do. Are there any horror stories of the fuser self-destructing and damaging the printer? Like, you *DO* replace the timing chain on your car when it says to, least the timing chain self destruct, the pistons go wild, smash the valves, and saving $500 on a timing chain has now cost you over $5k. But it sounds like my gut feel that I didn't need to replace the fuser at 150k pages was correct. The point i was getting at was that if there doesnt seem to be any problems yet, I wouldnt sweat it. By the time your printer does die on you, You'll most likely rather spend those few hundred bucks instead on a new Color Laser Printer. They are rediculously low cost nowadays Unfortunately, the provance of all of my laser printers is ugly. This HP LaserJet 5000 and my HP Color LaserJet 5M both came from US High Tech companies who thought it was cheaper to get rid of them. (In this case, the company bought an Epson (for about $500) rather than do the $200 service we are talking about here. The Epson has been broken about 1/2 of the time. And they effectively gave away the HP LJ 5000 with two unopened toners. Their loss is my gain.) My other HP LJ 5000, I picked up for change because it had a failed fuser after less than 100k copies. (It also had a working duplexer and a JetDirect card which were worth more than I paid for it.) It was jamming often and it looked like it had been thru a war. I suspect it came from a very dirty environment. So, I replaced the rollers when I replaced the fuser on that one. So, while I am only using quality paper now, I have no real idea what sort of paper was used in the past. Given how cheap / stupid the companies I got these printers from were, I should probably assume the worst - that they used cheap paper too. I have tried to carefully clean the inside of the printers, but I don't want to go crazy with a shop vac. |
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GMAN wrote: In article , (Richard Kovalcik) wrote: In article , Rev. G.G. Willikers wrote: GMAN wrote: In article , (Richard Kovalcik) wrote: I have been using my Laserjet 5 since 1997 and have yet needed to change anything but toner. I guess i have been lucky. But yeah, sounds like rollers might help, but only if you have been having feed problems. Using quality paper and keeping the interior mechanisms dust/toner free goes a long way to extending longevity. I worked for a major oil companies HQ, and they used nothing but recycled paper in ALL of the printers and Xerox machines. What a complete nightmare. The fibers not only jammed the rollers, but got into every fan vent and heatsink in the place. Note that the subject of the message included the word "proactively". (Knock on wood), I'm having no real problems with this HP LaserJet 5000. It's working fine, but I was wondering what I should do. Are there any horror stories of the fuser self-destructing and damaging the printer? Like, you *DO* replace the timing chain on your car when it says to, least the timing chain self destruct, the pistons go wild, smash the valves, and saving $500 on a timing chain has now cost you over $5k. But it sounds like my gut feel that I didn't need to replace the fuser at 150k pages was correct. The point i was getting at was that if there doesnt seem to be any problems yet, I wouldnt sweat it. By the time your printer does die on you, You'll most likely rather spend those few hundred bucks instead on a new Color Laser Printer. They are rediculously low cost nowadays Point taken, but I'm probably much more likely to spend several hundred on a HP 8500 (or maybe 5500) class color LJ printer which will do the duplexing and 11x17 and so on. |
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