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Deskpro EN SFF graphic problem
I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram.
I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video
pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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128MB is inadequate for XP, but then the performance is worsened by a slower
733MHz processor. I have attempted to use XP on new 2+GHz P4 systems with only the original factory-installed(!) 128MB, and the performance stinks. I can't imagine how it could even be useful with a 733 and 128MB... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0500, "HH" wrote: 128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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Guys I know what you are saying in that for general use 128mb isnt a lot but
I have built at least 6 machines all around p450 p500 p550 and P600 and ALL of them run perfectly with 128mb ram. In fact I was playing unreal on a p2 350 with a 16mb pci graphics card all on xp pro and it ran perfectly! I m talking about a stutter on the most BASIC of graphics like the dxdiag test or the simplest of screensavers. The company I got the machine from are getting the same problem with 256mb of ram but they report that the other machines they have which are P3 533mhz do not display the fault. (different mb?) The board is supposed to be either the 810 or 815 chipset but the intel grahics driver fails to install duue to some "software conflict" but there is nothing in the machine except the bare xp None of us can work it out! ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message ... 128MB is inadequate for XP, but then the performance is worsened by a slower 733MHz processor. I have attempted to use XP on new 2+GHz P4 systems with only the original factory-installed(!) 128MB, and the performance stinks. I can't imagine how it could even be useful with a 733 and 128MB... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0500, "HH" wrote: 128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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FWIW, I have installed Windows 2000 Pro on several of the DeskPro SSF computers
and not seen any problems with on-board graphics. I DO have one DeskPro SSF in my warehouse with non-functioning on-board graphics. I now remember that the newer systems have an on-board nVidia graphics chip, not Intel graphics. Try installing the nVidia graphics drivers right off the nVidia web site. nVidia chips are prone to overheating and burning out if not ventilated extremely well. If you have the right drivers for the chip, the stutter effect may be due to a failing chip. The DeskPro SSF computers running at lower speeds do have a different chassis and different motherboard. I can't recall exactly, but the chipset is probably an Intel 810-series. 128MB may be OK for older versions of Windows, but to use XP on a machine with only 128MB requires a lot more patience than I have... Ben On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 23:10:45 +0000 (UTC), "Ginchy" wrote: Guys I know what you are saying in that for general use 128mb isnt a lot but I have built at least 6 machines all around p450 p500 p550 and P600 and ALL of them run perfectly with 128mb ram. In fact I was playing unreal on a p2 350 with a 16mb pci graphics card all on xp pro and it ran perfectly! I m talking about a stutter on the most BASIC of graphics like the dxdiag test or the simplest of screensavers. The company I got the machine from are getting the same problem with 256mb of ram but they report that the other machines they have which are P3 533mhz do not display the fault. (different mb?) The board is supposed to be either the 810 or 815 chipset but the intel grahics driver fails to install duue to some "software conflict" but there is nothing in the machine except the bare xp None of us can work it out! ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message ... 128MB is inadequate for XP, but then the performance is worsened by a slower 733MHz processor. I have attempted to use XP on new 2+GHz P4 systems with only the original factory-installed(!) 128MB, and the performance stinks. I can't imagine how it could even be useful with a 733 and 128MB... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0500, "HH" wrote: 128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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You seem to be confusing video memory and system memory, or just using them
interchangeably which is wrong. 128MB of video memory is plenty. 128MB of system memory is not. Tom "Ginchy" wrote in message ... Guys I know what you are saying in that for general use 128mb isnt a lot but I have built at least 6 machines all around p450 p500 p550 and P600 and ALL of them run perfectly with 128mb ram. In fact I was playing unreal on a p2 350 with a 16mb pci graphics card all on xp pro and it ran perfectly! I m talking about a stutter on the most BASIC of graphics like the dxdiag test or the simplest of screensavers. The company I got the machine from are getting the same problem with 256mb of ram but they report that the other machines they have which are P3 533mhz do not display the fault. (different mb?) The board is supposed to be either the 810 or 815 chipset but the intel grahics driver fails to install duue to some "software conflict" but there is nothing in the machine except the bare xp None of us can work it out! ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message ... 128MB is inadequate for XP, but then the performance is worsened by a slower 733MHz processor. I have attempted to use XP on new 2+GHz P4 systems with only the original factory-installed(!) 128MB, and the performance stinks. I can't imagine how it could even be useful with a 733 and 128MB... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0500, "HH" wrote: 128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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No I know what the difference is.
There is 16mb of video memory and 128mb of RAM in the system and that is enough to run basic screensavers and games! I have run UNREAL on a P2 450 with xp pro 16mb PCI and 128mb of ram NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER "Tom Scales" wrote in message . .. You seem to be confusing video memory and system memory, or just using them interchangeably which is wrong. 128MB of video memory is plenty. 128MB of system memory is not. Tom "Ginchy" wrote in message ... Guys I know what you are saying in that for general use 128mb isnt a lot but I have built at least 6 machines all around p450 p500 p550 and P600 and ALL of them run perfectly with 128mb ram. In fact I was playing unreal on a p2 350 with a 16mb pci graphics card all on xp pro and it ran perfectly! I m talking about a stutter on the most BASIC of graphics like the dxdiag test or the simplest of screensavers. The company I got the machine from are getting the same problem with 256mb of ram but they report that the other machines they have which are P3 533mhz do not display the fault. (different mb?) The board is supposed to be either the 810 or 815 chipset but the intel grahics driver fails to install duue to some "software conflict" but there is nothing in the machine except the bare xp None of us can work it out! ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message ... 128MB is inadequate for XP, but then the performance is worsened by a slower 733MHz processor. I have attempted to use XP on new 2+GHz P4 systems with only the original factory-installed(!) 128MB, and the performance stinks. I can't imagine how it could even be useful with a 733 and 128MB... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0500, "HH" wrote: 128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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Not for me with XP. You'll be SHOCKED at the difference in performance by
adding memory. Tom "Ginchy" wrote in message ... No I know what the difference is. There is 16mb of video memory and 128mb of RAM in the system and that is enough to run basic screensavers and games! I have run UNREAL on a P2 450 with xp pro 16mb PCI and 128mb of ram NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER "Tom Scales" wrote in message . .. You seem to be confusing video memory and system memory, or just using them interchangeably which is wrong. 128MB of video memory is plenty. 128MB of system memory is not. Tom "Ginchy" wrote in message ... Guys I know what you are saying in that for general use 128mb isnt a lot but I have built at least 6 machines all around p450 p500 p550 and P600 and ALL of them run perfectly with 128mb ram. In fact I was playing unreal on a p2 350 with a 16mb pci graphics card all on xp pro and it ran perfectly! I m talking about a stutter on the most BASIC of graphics like the dxdiag test or the simplest of screensavers. The company I got the machine from are getting the same problem with 256mb of ram but they report that the other machines they have which are P3 533mhz do not display the fault. (different mb?) The board is supposed to be either the 810 or 815 chipset but the intel grahics driver fails to install duue to some "software conflict" but there is nothing in the machine except the bare xp None of us can work it out! ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message ... 128MB is inadequate for XP, but then the performance is worsened by a slower 733MHz processor. I have attempted to use XP on new 2+GHz P4 systems with only the original factory-installed(!) 128MB, and the performance stinks. I can't imagine how it could even be useful with a 733 and 128MB... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0500, "HH" wrote: 128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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Methinks your definition of runs OK and ours are different. XP is D-O-G
S-L-O-W with 128MB of memory. Always has been. It isn't enough RAM despite your claims. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... No I know what the difference is. There is 16mb of video memory and 128mb of RAM in the system and that is enough to run basic screensavers and games! I have run UNREAL on a P2 450 with xp pro 16mb PCI and 128mb of ram NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER "Tom Scales" wrote in message . .. You seem to be confusing video memory and system memory, or just using them interchangeably which is wrong. 128MB of video memory is plenty. 128MB of system memory is not. Tom "Ginchy" wrote in message ... Guys I know what you are saying in that for general use 128mb isnt a lot but I have built at least 6 machines all around p450 p500 p550 and P600 and ALL of them run perfectly with 128mb ram. In fact I was playing unreal on a p2 350 with a 16mb pci graphics card all on xp pro and it ran perfectly! I m talking about a stutter on the most BASIC of graphics like the dxdiag test or the simplest of screensavers. The company I got the machine from are getting the same problem with 256mb of ram but they report that the other machines they have which are P3 533mhz do not display the fault. (different mb?) The board is supposed to be either the 810 or 815 chipset but the intel grahics driver fails to install duue to some "software conflict" but there is nothing in the machine except the bare xp None of us can work it out! ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message ... 128MB is inadequate for XP, but then the performance is worsened by a slower 733MHz processor. I have attempted to use XP on new 2+GHz P4 systems with only the original factory-installed(!) 128MB, and the performance stinks. I can't imagine how it could even be useful with a 733 and 128MB... Ben Myers On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:07:25 -0500, "HH" wrote: 128MB of RAM is insufficient for XP. add at least 256MB more and the video pereformance will improve. HH "Ginchy" wrote in message ... I bought a deskpro P3 733mhz with 16mb onboard agp graphics 128mb ram. I am running xp pro on it but the graphics stutter. Thinking that the onboard vga was not up to the job I installed a TNT2 M64 16mb PCI card but get the same thing. If you run dxdiag it shows the bouncing square stuttering every few seconds. Anyone know of a fix for this? I checked the hard drive and its running in dma mode 5 so no problem there! The people I bought it from have recreated this fault on their remaining machines so its not my own machine that is faulty. They cant seem to find an answer either but my own guess is that the chipset drivers need something? |
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