AthlonXP-M for 133MHz FSB m/b?

Hi. This is not quite overclocking, but this is the best place to ask

I'm looking to upgrade my Asus A7V133-VM KM133A 133MHz FSB motherboard.
The fastest thing I can see to put in this FSB speed is an Athlon
XP-Mobile Barton 2600+ 133/266MHz FSB 2.13GHz.
Would this be likely to work in my motherboard? Would the low 1.45vcore
be a problem? The m/b does nothing but autodetect for the vcore.

Would this Powernow thing be a problem (I read somewhere they don't want
to run at full speed in desktop m/bs)? I read something about pinmodding
them so they'll run at the correct speed, is this possible? Do the XP-Ms
still come unlocked?

Since they run cool, would my current Thunderbird stock hs/fans be
enough?

Thankyou!

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:14:47 +1300, before wrote:

Hi. This is not quite overclocking, but this is the best place to ask

I'm looking to upgrade my Asus A7V133-VM KM133A 133MHz FSB motherboard.
The fastest thing I can see to put in this FSB speed is an Athlon
XP-Mobile Barton 2600+ 133/266MHz FSB 2.13GHz.

2800+ MP would be the fastest. Barton core with 133MHz FSB.

Would this be likely to work in my motherboard?

Parobably.

Would the low 1.45vcore be a problem?

Good question. Don't know.

The m/b does nothing but autodetect for the vcore.

Pinmod. Set anything you like.

Would this Powernow thing be a problem (I read somewhere they don't want
to run at full speed in desktop m/bs)? I read something about pinmodding
them so they'll run at the correct speed, is this possible? Do the XP-Ms
still come unlocked?

Since they run cool, would my current Thunderbird stock hs/fans be
enough?

I have never seen the stock HSF's, but I wouldn't use it on any of the
cpu's. TR2-M1 for $8 works great and is quiet.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

Wes Newell wrote:

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:14:47 +1300, before wrote:

Hi. This is not quite overclocking, but this is the best place to ask

I'm looking to upgrade my Asus A7V133-VM KM133A 133MHz FSB motherboard.
The fastest thing I can see to put in this FSB speed is an Athlon
XP-Mobile Barton 2600+ 133/266MHz FSB 2.13GHz.

2800+ MP would be the fastest. Barton core with 133MHz FSB.

From Newegg.com:

Model: AMD Athlon MP 2800+
Co Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.13GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
$169

Model: AMD Mobile Athlon XP
Co Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.13GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.45V
Process: 0.13Micron
$104.00

Unless there's some L3 cache I don't know about, I think they may be the same
processor.

But there seems to be an XP-M 3000+ 2.20GHz(133x16.5). I wonder if those could
go to 3GHz ;-)


Would this be likely to work in my motherboard?

Parobably.

Would the low 1.45vcore be a problem?

Good question. Don't know.

The m/b does nothing but autodetect for the vcore.

Pinmod. Set anything you like.

Great.

Would this Powernow thing be a problem (I read somewhere they don't want
to run at full speed in desktop m/bs)? I read something about pinmodding
them so they'll run at the correct speed, is this possible? Do the XP-Ms
still come unlocked?

I'm basically wondering whether it's possible to force the XP-M to use its
correct multiplier (eg: 16x) rather than automatically revert to 133x6 because
of the unsupported ''Powernow" feature.



Since they run cool, would my current Thunderbird stock hs/fans be
enough?

I have never seen the stock HSF's, but I wouldn't use it on any of the
cpu's. TR2-M1 for $8 works great and is quiet.

Ok, the XP-M dissipates less than my current CPU, so I think it'll be good
enough. I was just wondering how well it'd physically fit, as I've read
Thunderbird heatsinks aren't right for Bartons for some reason.

2800+ MP would be the fastest. Barton core with 133MHz FSB.

This reminded me..
Got any idea as to why there are no 166 - 200 fsb MP boards (or processors)
out there?

Has to do with the low vcore....lower fsb produces less heat...does this
make sense?
"rstlne" wrote in message
news

2800+ MP would be the fastest. Barton core with 133MHz FSB.

This reminded me..
Got any idea as to why there are no 166 - 200 fsb MP boards (or
processors)
out there?

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:19:18 +0000, wrote:


2800+ MP would be the fastest. Barton core with 133MHz FSB.

This reminded me..
Got any idea as to why there are no 166 - 200 fsb MP boards (or processors)
out there?

AMD never made a SMP chipset that supported anything above 133MHz
(officially) afaik.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 02:13:13 +1300, before wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:14:47 +1300, before wrote:

Hi. This is not quite overclocking, but this is the best place to ask

I'm looking to upgrade my Asus A7V133-VM KM133A 133MHz FSB motherboard.
The fastest thing I can see to put in this FSB speed is an Athlon
XP-Mobile Barton 2600+ 133/266MHz FSB 2.13GHz.

2800+ MP would be the fastest. Barton core with 133MHz FSB.

From Newegg.com:

Model: AMD Athlon MP 2800+
Co Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.13GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
$169

Model: AMD Mobile Athlon XP
Co Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.13GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.45V
Process: 0.13Micron
$104.00

Unless there's some L3 cache I don't know about, I think they may be the same
processor.

basically, they are.

But there seems to be an XP-M 3000+ 2.20GHz(133x16.5). I wonder if those
could go to 3GHz ;-)

Well, you could get a little more speed out of this one.

I'm basically wondering whether it's possible to force the XP-M to use
its correct multiplier (eg: 16x) rather than automatically revert to
133x6 because of the unsupported ''Powernow" feature.

I have no experience with the mobiles but I've heard that they start out
at the highest setting and that this setting can be changed via the L12?
bridges on the cpu. Don't tke L12 for granted, it may me another group of
bridges.

Since they run cool, would my current Thunderbird stock hs/fans be
enough?

I have never seen the stock HSF's, but I wouldn't use it on any of the
cpu's. TR2-M1 for $8 works great and is quiet.

Ok, the XP-M dissipates less than my current CPU, so I think it'll be
good enough. I was just wondering how well it'd physically fit, as I've
read Thunderbird heatsinks aren't right for Bartons for some reason.

But the surface area of the new cores is smaller than the tbird cores. I
used my pretty good all aluminum cooler for a while, but in the end the
cheap new copper base cooler worked a lot better with the tbred core.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

"Robert Jackson Marley" wrote in message
...
Has to do with the low vcore....lower fsb produces less heat...does this
make sense?
"rstlne" wrote in message
news

2800+ MP would be the fastest. Barton core with 133MHz FSB.

This reminded me..
Got any idea as to why there are no 166 - 200 fsb MP boards (or
processors)
out there?

Higher FSB speeds needs better RAM, northbrige chip and cooling and
generally needs better motherboard components. These are more expensive and
needs more power and outputs more heat. Extra heat in a notebook is not
good and power requirements needs to be kept as low as possible for decent
battery life.

You look at a 1.0Ghz Intel Centrino processor and is uses a 0.9v Vcore! Wow!
Overall, Intel are better (at the moment) at making chip for mobile devices,
in my opinion.

"Robert Jackson Marley" wrote in message
...
Has to do with the low vcore....lower fsb produces less heat...does this
make sense?

Kinda
but
200 * 10.6
166.66 * 12.8
133.33 * 16
They should all produce similar heat shouldnt they?
and shouldnt they all run at the same vcore?

Hi. This is not quite overclocking, but this is the best place to ask

I'm looking to upgrade my Asus A7V133-VM KM133A 133MHz FSB motherboard.
The fastest thing I can see to put in this FSB speed is an Athlon
XP-Mobile Barton 2600+ 133/266MHz FSB 2.13GHz.
Would this be likely to work in my motherboard? Would the low 1.45vcore
be a problem? The m/b does nothing but autodetect for the vcore.

Would this Powernow thing be a problem (I read somewhere they don't want
to run at full speed in desktop m/bs)? I read something about pinmodding
them so they'll run at the correct speed, is this possible? Do the XP-Ms
still come unlocked?

Since they run cool, would my current Thunderbird stock hs/fans be
enough?

Thankyou!

Got that proc from newegg and put it in a MSI K7T Turbo 2...KT133A chipset
15X141= 2115mhz- mem at cas2.
15X147= 2205mhz- mem at cas3.

Needed a program called CPU MSR to reach the 15X multi,
wouldn't go higher than 13X without it.

Thermalright slk-900 w/92mm vantec tornado dead slow thru a rheobus
41C/29C temps at 1.45V


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