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Hot Laser Printer
"Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney" wrote:
"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message ... In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Besides the toner, the Samslung laser I had would heat the paper up so hot that it curled - amost too hot to touch when it hit the output tray. A very small number of laser printers do that, the vast majority do not do so provided the user sets the driver up correctly. Tony- My problem is envelopes being sealed by the laser printer. Envelopes printed on an old HP LJ 2605dn would stick, but the flaps could easily be loosened. Envelopes printed on a newer HP LJ Pro M451DN stick fairly tight. The flaps can usually be pried open, but the envelope gets wrinkled and sometimes it pulls up the surface of the paper. I am printing from a Macintosh with the latest system. I looked through settings in the printer's web server, but did not see anything that might affect temperature. Do you know of another way to adjust temperature? I am worried that it might prevent toner from sticking to the paper if it was lowered too much. Fred This is another problem with laser printers that we don't have with ink jet. It is not a problem, it is improper use. Ink printers have their issues. Tony |
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Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Fred McKenzie wrote: In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Besides the toner, the Samslung laser I had would heat the paper up so hot that it curled - amost too hot to touch when it hit the output tray. A very small number of laser printers do that, the vast majority do not do so provided the user sets the driver up correctly. Tony- My problem is envelopes being sealed by the laser printer. Envelopes printed on an old HP LJ 2605dn would stick, but the flaps could easily be loosened. Envelopes printed on a newer HP LJ Pro M451DN stick fairly tight. The flaps can usually be pried open, but the envelope gets wrinkled and sometimes it pulls up the surface of the paper. I am printing from a Macintosh with the latest system. I looked through settings in the printer's web server, but did not see anything that might affect temperature. Do you know of another way to adjust temperature? I am worried that it might prevent toner from sticking to the paper if it was lowered too much. Fred You cannot adjust the temperature on all laser printers but those where you can are controlled from the driver by selecting the media type (usually). Does the driver have an envelope media type? This may not be the smae setting where you tell the printer what size of paper is in the tray; it may be a different setting where you tell the printer what type (not size) of media you are using, Also, make sure you use envelopes that are designed for laser printers (or photocopiers), they have a higher temperature tolerance. If you select the wrong "type" various things can happen like paper curling too much (common with smaller paper sizes because the grain runs the wrong way for instance). I have seen several printers ruined because people printed on to transparencies that were not designed for use with laser printers. Tony Tony- Thanks for your insight. I am using the "Envelope" media type in the printer setup. I wonder which choice might use a lower temperature? I'll look for something really flimsy! In the case of things like transparencies, I am careful to purchase media to match the printer. I was not aware that a similar choice was available for envelopes! I'll check with the office supply store to see if they have some specifically for Laser printing. Fred |
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Hot Laser Printer
"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message ...
In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Fred McKenzie wrote: In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Besides the toner, the Samslung laser I had would heat the paper up so hot that it curled - amost too hot to touch when it hit the output tray. A very small number of laser printers do that, the vast majority do not do so provided the user sets the driver up correctly. Tony- My problem is envelopes being sealed by the laser printer. Envelopes printed on an old HP LJ 2605dn would stick, but the flaps could easily be loosened. Envelopes printed on a newer HP LJ Pro M451DN stick fairly tight. The flaps can usually be pried open, but the envelope gets wrinkled and sometimes it pulls up the surface of the paper. I am printing from a Macintosh with the latest system. I looked through settings in the printer's web server, but did not see anything that might affect temperature. Do you know of another way to adjust temperature? I am worried that it might prevent toner from sticking to the paper if it was lowered too much. Fred You cannot adjust the temperature on all laser printers but those where you can are controlled from the driver by selecting the media type (usually). Does the driver have an envelope media type? This may not be the smae setting where you tell the printer what size of paper is in the tray; it may be a different setting where you tell the printer what type (not size) of media you are using, Also, make sure you use envelopes that are designed for laser printers (or photocopiers), they have a higher temperature tolerance. If you select the wrong "type" various things can happen like paper curling too much (common with smaller paper sizes because the grain runs the wrong way for instance). I have seen several printers ruined because people printed on to transparencies that were not designed for use with laser printers. Tony Tony- Thanks for your insight. I am using the "Envelope" media type in the printer setup. I wonder which choice might use a lower temperature? I'll look for something really flimsy! In the case of things like transparencies, I am careful to purchase media to match the printer. I was not aware that a similar choice was available for envelopes! I'll check with the office supply store to see if they have some specifically for Laser printing. Fred Yep, another problem with lasers is having to use specialty high cost paper. I used decent quality 20 & 24 pound bond with the Samslung Model POS I had and it ran so hot that the paper curled. After running more than about 20 sheets, it smelled like a smoldering incinerator full of cardboard. The only advantage of using laser over ink jet that I see is with the large machines used at commercial printers and copy shops. For home use, my money is still on ink jet. And like I say, for occasional high quality color prints, I send it to a commercial shop. |
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Hot Laser Printer
"Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney" wrote:
"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message ... In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Fred McKenzie wrote: In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Besides the toner, the Samslung laser I had would heat the paper up so hot that it curled - amost too hot to touch when it hit the output tray. A very small number of laser printers do that, the vast majority do not do so provided the user sets the driver up correctly. Tony- My problem is envelopes being sealed by the laser printer. Envelopes printed on an old HP LJ 2605dn would stick, but the flaps could easily be loosened. Envelopes printed on a newer HP LJ Pro M451DN stick fairly tight. The flaps can usually be pried open, but the envelope gets wrinkled and sometimes it pulls up the surface of the paper. I am printing from a Macintosh with the latest system. I looked through settings in the printer's web server, but did not see anything that might affect temperature. Do you know of another way to adjust temperature? I am worried that it might prevent toner from sticking to the paper if it was lowered too much. Fred You cannot adjust the temperature on all laser printers but those where you can are controlled from the driver by selecting the media type (usually). Does the driver have an envelope media type? This may not be the smae setting where you tell the printer what size of paper is in the tray; it may be a different setting where you tell the printer what type (not size) of media you are using, Also, make sure you use envelopes that are designed for laser printers (or photocopiers), they have a higher temperature tolerance. If you select the wrong "type" various things can happen like paper curling too much (common with smaller paper sizes because the grain runs the wrong way for instance). I have seen several printers ruined because people printed on to transparencies that were not designed for use with laser printers. Tony Tony- Thanks for your insight. I am using the "Envelope" media type in the printer setup. I wonder which choice might use a lower temperature? I'll look for something really flimsy! In the case of things like transparencies, I am careful to purchase media to match the printer. I was not aware that a similar choice was available for envelopes! I'll check with the office supply store to see if they have some specifically for Laser printing. Fred Yep, another problem with lasers is having to use specialty high cost paper. I used decent quality 20 & 24 pound bond with the Samslung Model POS I had and it ran so hot that the paper curled. After running more than about 20 sheets, it smelled like a smoldering incinerator full of cardboard. You don't need high cost paper for text printing just the cheapest is fine, where did you get that idea? What you are describing has never been documented and I have never seen it - if it happened it was a faulty printer. The only advantage of using laser over ink jet that I see is with the large machines used at commercial printers and copy shops. Cost per page for text printing is cheaper with a monochrome laser - there is no question about that. For home use, my money is still on ink jet. You have said that several times and I repeat it is horses for courses. For some things Ink printers are best for others lasers are best. It is really that simple. And like I say, for occasional high quality color prints, I send it to a commercial shop. Tony |
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Hot Laser Printer
"Tony" lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote in message news
"Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney" wrote: "Fred McKenzie" wrote in message ... In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Fred McKenzie wrote: In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Besides the toner, the Samslung laser I had would heat the paper up so hot that it curled - amost too hot to touch when it hit the output tray. A very small number of laser printers do that, the vast majority do not do so provided the user sets the driver up correctly. Tony- My problem is envelopes being sealed by the laser printer. Envelopes printed on an old HP LJ 2605dn would stick, but the flaps could easily be loosened. Envelopes printed on a newer HP LJ Pro M451DN stick fairly tight. The flaps can usually be pried open, but the envelope gets wrinkled and sometimes it pulls up the surface of the paper. I am printing from a Macintosh with the latest system. I looked through settings in the printer's web server, but did not see anything that might affect temperature. Do you know of another way to adjust temperature? I am worried that it might prevent toner from sticking to the paper if it was lowered too much. Fred You cannot adjust the temperature on all laser printers but those where you can are controlled from the driver by selecting the media type (usually). Does the driver have an envelope media type? This may not be the smae setting where you tell the printer what size of paper is in the tray; it may be a different setting where you tell the printer what type (not size) of media you are using, Also, make sure you use envelopes that are designed for laser printers (or photocopiers), they have a higher temperature tolerance. If you select the wrong "type" various things can happen like paper curling too much (common with smaller paper sizes because the grain runs the wrong way for instance). I have seen several printers ruined because people printed on to transparencies that were not designed for use with laser printers. Tony Tony- Thanks for your insight. I am using the "Envelope" media type in the printer setup. I wonder which choice might use a lower temperature? I'll look for something really flimsy! In the case of things like transparencies, I am careful to purchase media to match the printer. I was not aware that a similar choice was available for envelopes! I'll check with the office supply store to see if they have some specifically for Laser printing. Fred Yep, another problem with lasers is having to use specialty high cost paper. I used decent quality 20 & 24 pound bond with the Samslung Model POS I had and it ran so hot that the paper curled. After running more than about 20 sheets, it smelled like a smoldering incinerator full of cardboard. You don't need high cost paper for text printing just the cheapest is fine, where did you get that idea? What you are describing has never been documented and I have never seen it - if it happened it was a faulty printer. Same thing happened with cheapest 20# used for day to day printing, and higher quality 24# paper I use for business. Whether this has been documented or not, this is the reason I got rid of it. I should have known when I bought it that it was a crappy printer because they were marked $150 - on sale for $50. I got my money out of it - when the cartridge was used up, I threw it out. The only advantage of using laser over ink jet that I see is with the large machines used at commercial printers and copy shops. Cost per page for text printing is cheaper with a monochrome laser - there is no question about that. For home use, my money is still on ink jet. You have said that several times and I repeat it is horses for courses. For some things Ink printers are best for others lasers are best. It is really that simple. And like I say, for occasional high quality color prints, I send it to a commercial shop. Tony |
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Hot Laser Printer
"Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney" wrote:
"Tony" lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote in message news "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney" wrote: "Fred McKenzie" wrote in message ... In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Fred McKenzie wrote: In article , Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: Besides the toner, the Samslung laser I had would heat the paper up so hot that it curled - amost too hot to touch when it hit the output tray. A very small number of laser printers do that, the vast majority do not do so provided the user sets the driver up correctly. Tony- My problem is envelopes being sealed by the laser printer. Envelopes printed on an old HP LJ 2605dn would stick, but the flaps could easily be loosened. Envelopes printed on a newer HP LJ Pro M451DN stick fairly tight. The flaps can usually be pried open, but the envelope gets wrinkled and sometimes it pulls up the surface of the paper. I am printing from a Macintosh with the latest system. I looked through settings in the printer's web server, but did not see anything that might affect temperature. Do you know of another way to adjust temperature? I am worried that it might prevent toner from sticking to the paper if it was lowered too much. Fred You cannot adjust the temperature on all laser printers but those where you can are controlled from the driver by selecting the media type (usually). Does the driver have an envelope media type? This may not be the smae setting where you tell the printer what size of paper is in the tray; it may be a different setting where you tell the printer what type (not size) of media you are using, Also, make sure you use envelopes that are designed for laser printers (or photocopiers), they have a higher temperature tolerance. If you select the wrong "type" various things can happen like paper curling too much (common with smaller paper sizes because the grain runs the wrong way for instance). I have seen several printers ruined because people printed on to transparencies that were not designed for use with laser printers. Tony Tony- Thanks for your insight. I am using the "Envelope" media type in the printer setup. I wonder which choice might use a lower temperature? I'll look for something really flimsy! In the case of things like transparencies, I am careful to purchase media to match the printer. I was not aware that a similar choice was available for envelopes! I'll check with the office supply store to see if they have some specifically for Laser printing. Fred Yep, another problem with lasers is having to use specialty high cost paper. I used decent quality 20 & 24 pound bond with the Samslung Model POS I had and it ran so hot that the paper curled. After running more than about 20 sheets, it smelled like a smoldering incinerator full of cardboard. You don't need high cost paper for text printing just the cheapest is fine, where did you get that idea? What you are describing has never been documented and I have never seen it - if it happened it was a faulty printer. Same thing happened with cheapest 20# used for day to day printing, and higher quality 24# paper I use for business. Whether this has been documented or not, this is the reason I got rid of it. I should have known when I bought it that it was a crappy printer because they were marked $150 - on sale for $50. I got my money out of it - when the cartridge was used up, I threw it out. As i would have done also. Clearly a bad printer, either faulty or not well designed. But not at all typical of laser printers. Laser printers do not need special papers except for special uses (like transparencies) and ink printers often need special paper also for transparencies and photo work; for normal monochrome (or even colour) printing a laser uses standard cheap paper. In fact a colour laser produces better quality prints on standard/cheap paper than most inkjets will on the same paper because of by design and always cheaper. The only advantage of using laser over ink jet that I see is with the large machines used at commercial printers and copy shops. Cost per page for text printing is cheaper with a monochrome laser - there is no question about that. For home use, my money is still on ink jet. You have said that several times and I repeat it is horses for courses. For some things Ink printers are best for others lasers are best. It is really that simple. And like I say, for occasional high quality color prints, I send it to a commercial shop. Tony Tony |
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Tony lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz wrote: As i would have done also. Clearly a bad printer, either faulty or not well designed. Indeed. I purchased a "reconditioned" Dell 2330dn and, as far as we in my household are concerned, it's the workhorse of printing. Runs of 100+ sides sometimes (it's full Duplex) and never any bother. For paper I just use whatever is "on offer" at Staples. The Epson Inkjet is used only when colour is essential otherwise it would be far too expensive. -- Stuart Winsor Tools With A Mission sending tools across the world http://www.twam.co.uk/ |
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