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HP Photosmart B209a
On 10/15/2014 12:05 AM, Tony wrote:
Stumpy wrote: My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Tony I wonder if you can place these chips in the appropriate location and fool the printer without even having any color cartridges installed? http://refillbay.com/product/replace...FUWAaQodlJcAdg |
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HP Photosmart B209a
Stumpy wrote:
My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. I cannot help you, but I can feel your pain. I bought a brand new sealed-in-box HP 8250 printer, as its 6 color cartridges give beautiful colors in my prints. When I tried to start it up, I got an on-screen message that I inserted the wrong cartridges,and must insert starter ink cartridges. I inserted the ones that were in the sealed box. To make a long story short,after dozens of contradictory e-mails from H-P, they finally told me: 1) My printer will never print without the correct starter ink cartridges 2) H-P does not make them any more and does not stock them. 3) There is no work-around. I therefore have a $250.- paper weight. They probably pull this stunt to prevent so-called grey-market imports. They treated me with disdain, ignoring the fact that I have spent literally thousands of dollars on their inks and ink-jet photo papers. Mort Linder --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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HP Photosmart B209a
"David H. Lipman" wrote:
From: "Tony" lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote: On 10/15/2014 03:05 AM, Tony wrote: My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Our OfficeJet 7135 has *separate* printheads for each color but nevertheless will not print black if a whole set of working color cartridges is not present -- and I haven't found any aftermarket cartridges (#14) or anyone who will refill them. Why would the color printheads need cooling if they are not activated (as in printing only black)? They don't. If each cartridge has a built in printhead then we are talking about a very different matter and I cannot think of a technical reason why printing would be suspended if colour cartridges are not present except that many ink printers enhance black prints with colour. Maybe the manufacturer wants to keep the print quality "as designed". The response I made was specifically for printers with separate ink tanks and printheads. A distant relative by marriage who used to work for HP's printer division said that they made a fortune out of the ink cartridges. The business model followed by most, perhaps all, printer manufacturers for the entry level to mid range marketplace is to almost give the printer away and charge heavily for the ink or toner. This model was started I believe by Gillette with their safety razors (cheap razor, expensive blades). HP are not alone in this by any means. Aftermarket ink cartridges are available for many printers (I'm not getting into the argument about relative quality here) so the consumer usually has a choice. Some manufacturers make their printers detect aftermarket cartridges and either refuse to work with them or make it a pain to do so. I believe this is illegal in Europe now but maybe not in the US??? [Snip} Tony I think the real problem with ink cart. sales is that the normal ink cart. is only half filled. They then charge a premium to buy a full ink cart. Then there is the environmental impact. People will tend to buy the half filled ink carts to save money. The consumer then ends up throwing away twice as much packaging material. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp In any event it is not a model that people enjoy, myself included. Tony |
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HP Photosmart B209a
Stumpy wrote:
On 10/15/2014 12:05 AM, Tony wrote: Stumpy wrote: My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. My understanding is that this printer uses a printhead with separate ink cartridges. The printer is therefore quite correctly designed to not operate if any of the cartridges are empty or missng. This is to protect the printhead which would otherwise permanently fail. Printheads need lubrication and/or cooling; this comes from the ink. No workaround is possible without in depth and serious electronic skills. There is no subterfuge in this approach by HP with whom I have no affiliation. Tony I wonder if you can place these chips in the appropriate location and fool the printer without even having any color cartridges installed? http://refillbay.com/product/replace...FUWAaQodlJcAdg Sorry I don't know but in some printers that will definitely not work because there is a device that detects the amount of ink in the cartridge (you could always fill it with dark coloured water but if you do that and the printer uses the colour cartridges to enhance black you will get degraded prints. Better to but the chip and some ink and refill I suspect. Tony |
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HP Photosmart B209a
My experience with HP printers and laptops is that they were great up until a few years ago -- don't know when the change happened -- at least since 2015 they have been 100% pure crap. 180 degree difference from a few years ago. I have one of each, both 2015 versions, sitting on a table. Both will be going out in the next garage sale. And if one doesn't sell, it's going in the garbage.
"Stumpy" wrote in message ... My son bought a new, in the box HP Photosmart B209a for $10 at a garage sale. The scanner works fine, the printer won't print using the black 546 cartridge unless the 3 color cartridges are installed. I have no desire to buy color cartridges so I'm asking if there is a workaround. HP obviously wants me to buy the ink. Even though I select Black Only Greyscale in the HP Device Manager print settings, the documents just sit in the queue. "Device busy" If there is no workaround, then I have a very large, heavy scanner. |
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