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Old February 9th 11, 03:46 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Mint
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.

It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.

I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?

Andy
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Old February 9th 11, 03:54 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

On 2/8/2011 8:46 PM, Mint wrote:
I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.

It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.

I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?


Throw a rock in the air and you'll hit a motherboard with a 24-pin power
connector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX12V#ATX12V_2.x

I went out to newegg, typed "motherboard" into the search, and picked
the first item in the returned results:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...%20Motherboard
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Old February 9th 11, 04:05 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

Mint wrote:
I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.

It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.

I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?

Andy


24 pin supplies work with 20 pin motherboards.

There are two choices in the matter. If a power supply has a
"solid 24 pin", then when you go to plug it into the 20 pin
connector, you have to check for adjacent tall objects. Sometimes,
the left over pins will bump against a motherboard capacitor.

Most 24 pin power supplies, use a split 20+4 connector. There
is a tiny "hinge" between the 20 pin section and 4 pin section.
The four pin section has wires of four different colors. When you
need to use such a 20+4 supply with a 20 pin motherboard (something
I'm doing right now on my latest build), you move the 4 pin
section out of the way. It just dangles there in space, unused.

You have to be careful, not to mix up that 2x2 section with the
four different color wires, with the 2x2 connector that powers
the processor. The power supply will have a cable with two
yellow wires and two black wires, and that goes to the ATX12V
2x2 or 2x4 motherboard connector. On desktop motherboards
that provide room for a 2x4, they will usually place a sticker
over the four extra pins, to help guide you where to stick the
ATX12V 2x2 power supply connector. If your supply has a 2x4 with
four yellow and four black, you can plug that into the 2x4 if you
want. In a lot of situations, the usage of 2x4 is optional.
If would only be, if you were overclocking a Pentium D 805 processor
to 4 GHz, where the processor ends up drawing 200W, where the
2x4 connector is essential. For many other cases, the power consumption
is low enough, that a 2x4 is "window dressing" rather than a
necessity.

Some pictures of doing this stuff, are here.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psucon...onnectors.html

The 20+4 type, shown unhinged and ready for a 20 pin motherboard.
The missing pin on the 20 pin section, is the obsolete -5V pin.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psucon...plus4index.jpg

This is what plugging a "solid 24" into a 20 pin motherboard looks like.
The four pins on the end hang over. They're redundant, and give the
connector scheme more current carrying capacity. There are only
certain situations where such a capacity is required (running
SLI with a couple 6600GT for example, where the 12V mobo current
approaches 8 amps). If you own a single video card, even a GTX 580,
the 20 pin connector remains sufficient for the current flow.
If there was a tall electrolytic right near the end of the
connector, it could bump into the four extra pins. Yes,
it has happened. Some people have no luck.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/24in20.jpg

And for completeness, this is plugging a 20 pin, into a 24 pin
motherboard. The way the connectors work, is pin 1 should
always line up with pin 1, and the interconnection scheme is
guided by the shapes of the individual pins. That helps
prevent an illegal alignment. If the connector won't slide
into place, inspect the shapes to be sure you're doing it
right. The lock latch on both connector pieces, should
at least guide you to the right 180 degree rotation. The
lock latches should be on the same side.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/20in24.jpg

*******

This is the connector on the FSP550-60PLG. It is a solid 24 pin
type, with *no* hinge visible. The manufacturer could change
this at any time, so it's hard to say whether the picture
is accurate in all cases.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...103-478-06.jpg

Now, go inspect your 20 pin motherboard, for
capacitors that could "bump" into the redundant
4 pin section that will be "hanging over".

HTH,
Paul
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Old February 10th 11, 01:18 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Mint
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

On Feb 8, 9:05*pm, Paul wrote:
Mint wrote:
I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.


It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.


I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?


Andy


24 pin supplies work with 20 pin motherboards.

There are two choices in the matter. If a power supply has a
"solid 24 pin", then when you go to plug it into the 20 pin
connector, you have to check for adjacent tall objects. Sometimes,
the left over pins will bump against a motherboard capacitor.

Most 24 pin power supplies, use a split 20+4 connector. There
is a tiny "hinge" between the 20 pin section and 4 pin section.
The four pin section has wires of four different colors. When you
need to use such a 20+4 supply with a 20 pin motherboard (something
I'm doing right now on my latest build), you move the 4 pin
section out of the way. It just dangles there in space, unused.

You have to be careful, not to mix up that 2x2 section with the
four different color wires, with the 2x2 connector that powers
the processor. The power supply will have a cable with two
yellow wires and two black wires, and that goes to the ATX12V
2x2 or 2x4 motherboard connector. On desktop motherboards
that provide room for a 2x4, they will usually place a sticker
over the four extra pins, to help guide you where to stick the
ATX12V 2x2 power supply connector. If your supply has a 2x4 with
four yellow and four black, you can plug that into the 2x4 if you
want. In a lot of situations, the usage of 2x4 is optional.
If would only be, if you were overclocking a Pentium D 805 processor
to 4 GHz, where the processor ends up drawing 200W, where the
2x4 connector is essential. For many other cases, the power consumption
is low enough, that a 2x4 is "window dressing" rather than a
necessity.

Some pictures of doing this stuff, are here.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psucon...onnectors.html

The 20+4 type, shown unhinged and ready for a 20 pin motherboard.
The missing pin on the 20 pin section, is the obsolete -5V pin.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psucon...plus4index.jpg

This is what plugging a "solid 24" into a 20 pin motherboard looks like.
The four pins on the end hang over. They're redundant, and give the
connector scheme more current carrying capacity. There are only
certain situations where such a capacity is required (running
SLI with a couple 6600GT for example, where the 12V mobo current
approaches 8 amps). If you own a single video card, even a GTX 580,
the 20 pin connector remains sufficient for the current flow.
If there was a tall electrolytic right near the end of the
connector, it could bump into the four extra pins. Yes,
it has happened. Some people have no luck.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/24in20.jpg

And for completeness, this is plugging a 20 pin, into a 24 pin
motherboard. The way the connectors work, is pin 1 should
always line up with pin 1, and the interconnection scheme is
guided by the shapes of the individual pins. That helps
prevent an illegal alignment. If the connector won't slide
into place, inspect the shapes to be sure you're doing it
right. The lock latch on both connector pieces, should
at least guide you to the right 180 degree rotation. The
lock latches should be on the same side.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/20in24.jpg

*******

This is the connector on the FSP550-60PLG. It is a solid 24 pin
type, with *no* hinge visible. The manufacturer could change
this at any time, so it's hard to say whether the picture
is accurate in all cases.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...103-478-06.jpg

Now, go inspect your 20 pin motherboard, for
capacitors that could "bump" into the redundant
4 pin section that will be "hanging over".

HTH,
* * Paul


Thanks for the good info.

I looked at the main connector and it can't be unhinged.

It's one solid piece.

Andy

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Old February 10th 11, 01:34 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

On Feb 8, 8:54*pm, Grinder wrote:
On 2/8/2011 8:46 PM, Mint wrote:

I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.


It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.


I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?


Throw a rock in the air and you'll hit a motherboard with a 24-pin power
connector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX12V#ATX12V_2.x

I went out to newegg, typed "motherboard" into the search, and picked
the first item in the returned results:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...e=13-138-283-Z....


Thanks.

I found the power supply in a dumpster at a computer store.

Most of the other things I have salvaged from there have worked fine.

I also have a abmzn-la motherboard.

It has a 24 pin power connector.

If they are compatible, can I check that they both work without
needing a CPU?

Andy



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Old February 10th 11, 03:54 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Grinder
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

On 2/10/2011 6:34 AM, Mint wrote:
On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, wrote:
On 2/8/2011 8:46 PM, Mint wrote:

I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.


It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.


I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?


Throw a rock in the air and you'll hit a motherboard with a 24-pin power
connector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX12V#ATX12V_2.x

I went out to newegg, typed "motherboard" into the search, and picked
the first item in the returned results:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...e=13-138-283-Z...


Thanks.

I found the power supply in a dumpster at a computer store.

Most of the other things I have salvaged from there have worked fine.

I also have a abmzn-la motherboard.

It has a 24 pin power connector.

If they are compatible, can I check that they both work without
needing a CPU?


The power supply will probably state, somewhere, that it is an ATX12V
power supply. If not, an online search will turn up some information,
or you can compare the color of the leads with a pinout:

http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml

A you certain that's an ABMZN-LA board, or could it be an ABM2N-LA
board? If it's the latter, here are some specs:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00757531

That board, and really any board with exception of some disastrous Dell
boards 7-8 years ago, use the ATX standard--and the 24-bins means ATX12V
in point of fact.

You should be cautious about dumpster dove power supplies. A bad power
supply can wreck a lot of connected components when you juice it up. I
had one, straight from the manufacturer, take out a motherboard and 2
hard drives.
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Old February 10th 11, 06:49 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Mint
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

On Feb 10, 8:54*am, Grinder wrote:
On 2/10/2011 6:34 AM, Mint wrote:



On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, *wrote:
On 2/8/2011 8:46 PM, Mint wrote:


I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.


It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.


I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?


Throw a rock in the air and you'll hit a motherboard with a 24-pin power
connector.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX12V#ATX12V_2.x


I went out to newegg, typed "motherboard" into the search, and picked
the first item in the returned results:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...e=13-138-283-Z....


Thanks.


I found the power supply in a dumpster at a computer store.


Most of the other things I have salvaged from there have worked fine.


I also have a abmzn-la motherboard.


It has a 24 pin power connector.


If they are compatible, can I check that they both work without
needing a CPU?


The power supply will probably state, somewhere, that it is an ATX12V
power supply. *If not, an online search will turn up some information,
or you can compare the color of the leads with a pinout:

http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml

A you certain that's an ABMZN-LA board, or could it be an ABM2N-LA
board? *If it's the latter, here are some specs:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...&docname=c0075...

That board, and really any board with exception of some disastrous Dell
boards 7-8 years ago, use the ATX standard--and the 24-bins means ATX12V
in point of fact.

You should be cautious about dumpster dove power supplies. *A bad power
supply can wreck a lot of connected components when you juice it up. *I
had one, straight from the manufacturer, take out a motherboard and 2
hard drives.


I will diagnose using this info.

I will first do a "green and black" wire test.

http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml
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Old February 11th 11, 12:00 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Mint
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Default What motherboards will work with a SPI FSP550-60PLG power supply

On Feb 10, 11:49*am, Mint wrote:
On Feb 10, 8:54*am, Grinder wrote:



On 2/10/2011 6:34 AM, Mint wrote:


On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, *wrote:
On 2/8/2011 8:46 PM, Mint wrote:


I found a SPI FSP550-60PLG 550W EPS12V Active PFC Power Supply.


It has a 24 pin main connector which is more pins than the power
supply of my current system.


I can't find out what motherboards would work with it?


Throw a rock in the air and you'll hit a motherboard with a 24-pin power
connector.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX12V#ATX12V_2.x


I went out to newegg, typed "motherboard" into the search, and picked
the first item in the returned results:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...e=13-138-283-Z...


Thanks.


I found the power supply in a dumpster at a computer store.


Most of the other things I have salvaged from there have worked fine.


I also have a abmzn-la motherboard.


It has a 24 pin power connector.


If they are compatible, can I check that they both work without
needing a CPU?


The power supply will probably state, somewhere, that it is an ATX12V
power supply. *If not, an online search will turn up some information,
or you can compare the color of the leads with a pinout:


http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml


A you certain that's an ABMZN-LA board, or could it be an ABM2N-LA
board? *If it's the latter, here are some specs:


http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...&docname=c0075...


That board, and really any board with exception of some disastrous Dell
boards 7-8 years ago, use the ATX standard--and the 24-bins means ATX12V
in point of fact.


You should be cautious about dumpster dove power supplies. *A bad power
supply can wreck a lot of connected components when you juice it up. *I
had one, straight from the manufacturer, take out a motherboard and 2
hard drives.


I will diagnose using this info.

I will first do a "green and black" wire test.

http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml


Power supply was bad.

It seems to me that it went bad awful quick.

I have an eleven yr. old Dell Optiplex with it's power supply still
humming away.

Andy
 




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