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Several ATOM links
Because several threads have involved ATOM, I share these links.
Intel press release on the z6xx line (products ship 4Q10). http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archi...100504comp.htm The relevant wikipedia information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors Relevant article: http://tinyurl.com/2a4oull I found all this stuff while researching a "What if Apple buys ARM and stops feeding other smart phone vendors?" The answer seems to be that it's not worth doing, between anti-trust and another source of chips it sounds like more trouble than it's worth. |
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Several ATOM links
Bill Davidsen wrote:
I found all this stuff while researching a "What if Apple buys ARM and stops feeding other smart phone vendors?" The answer seems to be that it's not worth doing, between anti-trust and another source of chips it sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Even antitrust aside, since ARM just designs the architecture and the base core designs (although even there, aren't some of the ones like Snapdragon and OMAP fairly distant relatives of the ARM designs? StrongARM and XScale were as well, IIRC) I don't think Apple could cut off supplies of existing cores. I'm not sure if the licensing agreements allow Qualcomm and others could continue to generate their own next-generation revs of the architecture (and it would certainly risk fragmentation of the market), but if Apple took a lock on the next-generation ARM, the current one has enough life in it to allow everyone to go over to /something/ else. What something else is a better question; embedded PowerPC and MIPS are both nonexistent in the mobile/smartphone space but , and Intel would love for some version of Atom to get some traction. -- Nate Edel http://www.cubiclehermit.com/ preferred email | is "nate" at the | "I do have a cause, though. It's obscenity. I'm posting domain | for it." |
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Atom is an emerging XML vocabulary and protocol for syndication and editing. Atom has a coherent linking model to express a number of different types of links. Atom borrows heavily from the link element in HTML, although they are not identical. This article explores several of the most common link types that are already deployed in Atom feeds today. |
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Several ATOM links
Nate Edel wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote: I found all this stuff while researching a "What if Apple buys ARM and stops feeding other smart phone vendors?" The answer seems to be that it's not worth doing, between anti-trust and another source of chips it sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Even antitrust aside, since ARM just designs the architecture and the base core designs (although even there, aren't some of the ones like Snapdragon and OMAP fairly distant relatives of the ARM designs? StrongARM and XScale were as well, IIRC) I don't think Apple could cut off supplies of existing cores. I can't guess what the licensing is, but you are probably correct for this generation. But for the next generation, it's nice to know there's something out there, with power and performance which make it viable as a replacement. I'm not sure if the licensing agreements allow Qualcomm and others could continue to generate their own next-generation revs of the architecture (and it would certainly risk fragmentation of the market), but if Apple took a lock on the next-generation ARM, the current one has enough life in it to allow everyone to go over to /something/ else. What something else is a better question; embedded PowerPC and MIPS are both nonexistent in the mobile/smartphone space but , and Intel would love for some version of Atom to get some traction. That's the important part, Intel has the technology, the money, and the desire. I suspect that there's a market for ATOM in netbooks or tablets. |
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Several ATOM links
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Nate Edel wrote: What something else is a better question; embedded PowerPC and MIPS are both nonexistent in the mobile/smartphone space but , and Intel would love for some version of Atom to get some traction. That's the important part, Intel has the technology, the money, and the desire. Indeed they do; which hasn't stopped them from failures like Netburst and the Itanic in the past (or other examples from the longer past.) I suspect that there's a market for ATOM in netbooks or tablets. Atom is the far-and-away leader in Netbooks, and I think the only reasonable competitors are Intel's own CULV processors and Via - AMD has announced, but not delivered, a netbook-class processor. In the short run, barring a major change on Apple's part producing an OsX netbook, the only real competitor to Windows in the netbook space is full Linux, and that's still a niche market... and I suspect quite a lot of those get pirate copies of Windows or OsX on them. The Android, Chrome OS, and other attempts to cut down a partial Linux away from the desktop metaphor seem like non-starters on a full-keyboard netbook or convertable tablet, but they might look more attractive in a generation or two. Ditto, if Apple ever extends the iPhone/iPad OS to a full netbook/convertable tablet in another generation or two (which seems more likely than a full OsX netbook, which would cheapen their brand.) In the non-convertable tablet/slate space, who knows; to the extent that those end up as laptop replacements, I think the Intel architecture has a very, very strong starting point for other to overcome - to the extent that they're an oversized mobile phone/media player (ie the current iPad) they are much easier to lock into a given non-Intel ecosystem, and Windows compatibility becomes and impediment rather than an advantage. I don't know if Atom will really ever be competitive in that space, even with something like Android which is fairly platform-agnostic (the iPhone OS is not.) On the other hand, I really don't see the value proposition in such a ecosystem-dependent device without the ecosystem, and the only one that's really taken off is Apple's. It'll be interesting to see where that space goes. -- Nate Edel http://www.cubiclehermit.com/ preferred email | is "nate" at the | "I do have a cause, though. It's obscenity. I'm posting domain | for it." |
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