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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
So you can't apply display/color profiles for games. Message-ID: Now, with the most recent NVIDIA nTune I go through the process of overclocking my fancy new video card. So what happens when that profile is added to a full-screen game? Believe it or not, the start of the game is interrupted with a Windows dialog: nTuneCmd The profile "Best system.npe" was loaded successfully. Press OK to continue. Why on earth would they take the time to write that program and then add a Windows prompt that interrupts the user entering a full-screen game?! |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
stuff like this, and having to load specific versions of Nvidia drivers for different games caused my move to ATI. you can see my path of video card upgrades and the sudden fed upness with Nvidia prompting my change to ATI (ahh stability): http://www.smokeypoint.com/My_PC.htm of course IF Nvidia goes with the 3Dfx api - i might be back. http://www.smokeypoint.com/3dfx.htm ** no fate ** dracman Tomb Raider: Shotgun City http://www.smokeypoint.com/tomb.htm http://www.smokeypoint.org/wow/worldofwarcraft1.html Aliase female hume rogue lvl 59 PVE solo http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=i0xZ0xV0oZEzxkMhRsoc 5/11/34 Zebby female NE Huntress lvl 56 / Aja nightstalker cat lvl 55 (bite,prowl) PVE solo http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cq0hZEVooqzohZ0GV 9/28/10 Iacta alea est "John Doe" wrote in message .. . So you can't apply display/color profiles for games. Message-ID: Now, with the most recent NVIDIA nTune I go through the process of overclocking my fancy new video card. So what happens when that profile is added to a full-screen game? Believe it or not, the start of the game is interrupted with a Windows dialog: nTuneCmd The profile "Best system.npe" was loaded successfully. Press OK to continue. Why on earth would they take the time to write that program and then add a Windows prompt that interrupts the user entering a full-screen game?! .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
Franky wrote:
Now, with the most recent NVIDIA nTune I go through the process of overclocking my fancy new video card. So what happens when that profile is added to a full-screen game? Believe it or not, the start of the game is interrupted with a Windows dialog: nTuneCmd The profile "Best system.npe" was loaded successfully. Press OK to continue. Why on earth would they take the time to write that program and then add a Windows prompt that interrupts the user entering a full-screen game?! I would ask the same of microsoft after installing a new network/internet compatible game - it brings up a BLOCK / UNBLOCK from internet window the moment you load the game, sometimes making you load the game, sit through company logos etc..quit the game, make the choice..then load the ****er again. Those are both pretty reasonable suggestions, while the second one can be avoided by pre-emptively unblocking the game, I'm the first to admit I never remember to, or I don't do the proper executable. Some games integrate with Security Center, not enough do and none do it well. I'm curious about the ntune issue, is there no effective workaround other than manually applying the settings prior, and then negating the whole point of automation? Can the "ok" dialog button be made to keep focus, but the window not take focus? |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
Now, with the most recent NVIDIA nTune I go through the process of
overclocking my fancy new video card. So what happens when that profile is added to a full-screen game? Believe it or not, the start of the game is interrupted with a Windows dialog: nTuneCmd The profile "Best system.npe" was loaded successfully. Press OK to continue. Why on earth would they take the time to write that program and then add a Windows prompt that interrupts the user entering a full-screen game?! I would ask the same of microsoft after installing a new network/internet compatible game - it brings up a BLOCK / UNBLOCK from internet window the moment you load the game, sometimes making you load the game, sit through company logos etc..quit the game, make the choice..then load the ****er again. |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
"Mr.E Solved!" wrote:
I'm curious about the ntune issue, is there no effective workaround other than manually applying the settings prior, and then negating the whole point of automation? Can the "ok" dialog button be made to keep focus, but the window not take focus? Or how about a checkbox that says "do not display this dialogue next time". Then again, considering the target user knows enough to overclock his video card, an "overclocking successful" confirmation isn't even necessary. Gaming is why I bought a $300 NVIDIA video card. I'm annoyed, but it also seems silly that they would write an overclocking utility mainly used by gamers and then have an unnecessary prompt interrupt games. Oh well. |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
John Doe wrote:
"Mr.E Solved!" wrote: I'm curious about the ntune issue, is there no effective workaround other than manually applying the settings prior, and then negating the whole point of automation? Can the "ok" dialog button be made to keep focus, but the window not take focus? Or how about a checkbox that says "do not display this dialogue next time". Then again, considering the target user knows enough to overclock his video card, an "overclocking successful" confirmation isn't even necessary. Gaming is why I bought a $300 NVIDIA video card. I'm annoyed, but it also seems silly that they would write an overclocking utility mainly used by gamers and then have an unnecessary prompt interrupt games. Oh well. I've never used the ntune profile setting feature, I'm not missing much based on your reporting. Set one OC and forget about it, adjust your game profiles through nhancer. http://www.nhancer.com |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
"Mr.E Solved!" wrote:
adjust your game profiles through nhancer. http://www.nhancer.com Thanks, I just tried that. No contrast/brightness/gamma (except some gamma setting for antialiasing). As far as game profiles go, all I want to do is adjust contrast & brightness and/or gamma for a game that doesn't provide at least gamma correction. I find difficult to believe that those common settings are difficult to program. Sure seems strange that they aren't available, considering those game-specific adjustments are generally needed by gamers. |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
John Doe wrote:
"Mr.E Solved!" wrote: adjust your game profiles through nhancer. http://www.nhancer.com Thanks, I just tried that. No contrast/brightness/gamma (except some gamma setting for antialiasing). As far as game profiles go, all I want to do is adjust contrast & brightness and/or gamma for a game that doesn't provide at least gamma correction. I find difficult to believe that those common settings are difficult to program. Sure seems strange that they aren't available, considering those game-specific adjustments are generally needed by gamers. If you want to adjust gamma and/or brightness/contrast, and you do not see those options in game, you can adjust B/C on your display device and you can adjust gamma via the driver suite. You can't have missed that! Yes, you need to adjust them for every application. No, nhancer does not have settings for B/C/G, since it is easily adjusted outside the scope of the drivers. Which specific application are you having trouble with that does not have any in-game settings and can't be adjusted via the mentioned methods? Of all the games I have used, precious few lack in game display adjustments, I refer to both Direct3D and OpenGL. Even the Doom series, which have the darkest textures I've ever seen in a game (even darker than the Quake series), has numerous ways to brighten them, including .ini variables. |
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"Mr.E Solved!" wrote:
If you want to adjust gamma and/or brightness/contrast, and you do not see those options in game, you can adjust B/C on your display device and you can adjust gamma via the driver suite. All I see is something about gamma for antialiasing, is there a slider or numeric entry? If so, does it affect all the pixels on the screen? Maybe you could be generous with your expertise and provide a path to that setting? You can't have missed that! Of course I haven't missed the buttons on the monitor. But I'm talking about programming here. Yes, you need to adjust them for every application. No, nhancer does not have settings for B/C/G, since it is easily adjusted outside the scope of the drivers. You mean every time I switch from Windows to the game I have to manually adjust contrast/brightness/gamma on the monitor? That's what I'm trying to avoid. I oftentimes switch between a game and the Windows desktop. Which specific application are you having trouble with that does not have any in-game settings and can't be adjusted via the mentioned methods? Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2004. Supreme Commander. Some games like Warcraft III have gamma adjustment but no contrast/brightness. Of all the games I have used, precious few lack in game display adjustments, I refer to both Direct3D and OpenGL. I appreciate your attempt to help with the drivers, but you might want to try a few more games. |
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NVIDIA is clueless about gaming software?
John Doe wrote:
All I see is something about gamma for antialiasing, is there a slider or numeric entry? If so, does it affect all the pixels on the screen? Maybe you could be generous with your expertise and provide a path to that setting? Gamma Correct Antialiasing is an important toggle setting that applies formulaic color correction to FSAA samples to provide a subjectively superior image based on a non-linear Gamma ramp instead of linear one. Such linear encoding vs. linear intensity provides for more even stepping of brightness as we see it, rather than what the math says we should see. A vivid example of the value of GCAA is in Half Life 2, where the overhead power lines and fencing are brought out in relief and are more consistently rendered with and against the rich background colors and varied lighting conditions. Try it for yourself. You mean every time I switch from Windows to the game I have to manually adjust contrast/brightness/gamma on the monitor? That's what I'm trying to avoid. I oftentimes switch between a game and the Windows desktop. Yes, that is the unfortunate state of affairs. You must adjust each application as you use them. To be clear, there is no gamma setting on your monitor, only in the driver suite or application. Microsoft's Flight Simulator 2004. Supreme Commander. Some games like Warcraft III have gamma adjustment but no contrast/brightness. FS9 has known borky internal FSAA. I recommend forcing all visual enhancements in FS9 and FS9.1 externally. Supreme Commander responds well to any and all DX3D visual changes. this includes those on the color correction tab of your display driver. WCIII, SC and other Blizzard Titles have substantial range in their brightness settings. Though they have a dark default. Again, set the game sliders as you wish, them adjust your monitor settings. Of all the games I have used, precious few lack in game display adjustments, I refer to both Direct3D and OpenGL. I appreciate your attempt to help with the drivers, but you might want to try a few more games. I assure you, I have decades of experience with a vast, vast number of games, and I reassert, most have standard and effective ways to do set the displayed image however you desire. Combine the internal settings with external driver based settings and your monitors controls and you can achieve almost any particular look you desire. It's just that what looks good for one game doesn't apply to another. So you are forced to adjust you settings each and every time. There is no way around that. I will mention this, BF2 is one of the few games that has faulty light maps, and no iris bloom, so when you go from a dark interior to a lit exterior, you are faced with overly dark unlit textures that are out of place in the otherwise bright sun-lit exterior textures, and no amount of .ini or driver fiddling will correct that. Such as a building's vertical wall that is near black, but not in direct shadow and a clear sky. |
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