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1TB hard drive on PATA machine
"Peter Chant" wrote in message ... Don't suppose there is anything to stop me looping a cable from the eSATA port back into the machine - apart from ugliness. You can with an eSATA to SATA adapter cable. |
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1TB hard drive on PATA machine
Extra Value Serial ATA 2 Port PCI Card £12.99 inc vat
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/48670/...oduct_overview On Sat, 09 May 2009 13:24:18 +0100, Peter Chant wrote: Any thoughts? Existing system is PATA only, PCI & AGP, no PCI-E. PATA drives seem rare and relatively expensive for the amount of storage you get and at maximum seem to be 500GB. If I want to upgrade this machine to 1TB the only feasible way looks like external firewire drive plus firewire card. Perhaps my existing old firewire card will suffice. Alternative would be to upgrade mobo, CPU, memory and graphics - don't really want to do that quite yet. Any thoughts? Pete |
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Gerard Bok wrote:
Yes. And the plural form of 'disks was probably intentional :-) Daily backup to an external drive connected to a Linksys NSLU2. Approx monthly backup to a second external drive. External disk tend to have relatively high failing rates. Given their pricetags nowadays you should secure the pictures on more than one drive. And it is wise to select one with a minimum of 2 years warranty. Imagine my annoyance just before christmas when external hard drive and system drive (have two in this PC) failed within a week of each other. Luckily for the external drive it was the PSU. Pete -- http://www.petezilla.co.uk |
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Andy wrote:
Extra Value Serial ATA 2 Port PCI Card £12.99 inc vat http://www.ebuyer.com/product/48670/...oduct_overview Thank you. -- http://www.petezilla.co.uk |
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kony wrote:
4) Decide this is the right time to move on, to upgrade to a native SATA capable motherboard, CPU and memory. #4 holds the most promise for overall performance if that is a primary concern. On the other hand, a PCI SATA controller card is the least work to add an additional drive if it's not running the OS so it needs not be reconfigured or reinstalled to look to the SATA controller for the OS boot volume. PC will need to be upgraded in the next year, performance is _sometimes_ a bit of an issue. However, don't want to be force to upgrade just because I've made another purchase. Would perhaps would be keener if this motherboard were more suitable for a media PC but alas the on board sound is poor and the media PC case I have will only take two cards - ie graphics and TV (frame grabber) or audio. Pete -- http://www.petezilla.co.uk |
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On Sun, 10 May 2009 11:22:12 +0100, Peter Chant
wrote: kony wrote: 4) Decide this is the right time to move on, to upgrade to a native SATA capable motherboard, CPU and memory. #4 holds the most promise for overall performance if that is a primary concern. On the other hand, a PCI SATA controller card is the least work to add an additional drive if it's not running the OS so it needs not be reconfigured or reinstalled to look to the SATA controller for the OS boot volume. PC will need to be upgraded in the next year, performance is _sometimes_ a bit of an issue. However, don't want to be force to upgrade just because I've made another purchase. Would perhaps would be keener if this motherboard were more suitable for a media PC but alas the on board sound is poor and the media PC case I have will only take two cards - ie graphics and TV (frame grabber) or audio. Pete A combo like a lower end Athlon X2 and 780G chipset motherboard and memory can be had for about $150 total. The 780G integrated video would be strong enough for a media PC and it's gigabit ethernet would allow fair performance sharing the drive with whichever system needs the extra storage space. It'll be a lot slower throughput than direct SATA access in the same system, but it could kill two birds with one stone until later when you upgrade the first system. |
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Followup: 1TB hard drive on PATA machine
Update in case anyone is interested. A little odd, originally worryingly
flakey but now seems OK. 1TB Samsung disk, PCI SATA adapter VIA6421A based. State of the Ark KT400 based motherboard. Linux, kernel 2.6.27.7 No issue with linux seeing the controller, already had it compiled in the kernel. No problem finding disk. Partitioned disk no problems. Formatting disk, problematic, repeated errors on SATA interface forcing reboot. Downloaded Samsung untility to set drive from SATA 300 to SATA 150 to match card. A pain, XP box would not play ball creating boot floppy nor boot disk (maybe issue with XP box). Did not work under qemu / dosemu on linux box (long shot). - Solution, download freedos image and copy to floppy, copy Samsung tools onto freedos disk. Worked well. Set drive to 150. SATA interface errors persisted. Disabled IDE controllers on mobo and various other unused onboard peripherals to reduce chances of conflicts, especially IRQ's. Still flakey. Does not seem to be power as no difference in reliability between having three hard drives (2 old 1 new) and just the new drive. Formatted disk after some persistence. Copied across 290GB of data with no problems. Mounted new disk in place of old one. Running with new disk now to see how it pans out. +++ This is all a bit odd. Formatting was very flakey but now everything seems rock solid. I am sure the copying would have been a good "burn in" test if there were any persistant problems. -- http://www.petezilla.co.uk |
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Followup: 1TB hard drive on PATA machine
On Fri, 15 May 2009 17:29:28 +0100, Peter Chant
wrote: SATA interface errors persisted. Disabled IDE controllers on mobo and various other unused onboard peripherals to reduce chances of conflicts, especially IRQ's. Still flakey. Does not seem to be power as no difference in reliability between having three hard drives (2 old 1 new) and just the new drive. Formatted disk after some persistence. Copied across 290GB of data with no problems. Mounted new disk in place of old one. Running with new disk now to see how it pans out. +++ This is all a bit odd. Formatting was very flakey but now everything seems rock solid. I am sure the copying would have been a good "burn in" test if there were any persistant problems. Run the HDD manufacturer's diagnostic to check the drive. If I were guessing, I'd guess you had a bad SATA connector, contact problem and being in the case to unplug and replug drives had shifted the wires just enough that the connectors are making better connection now. |
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Diagnotic tool reports failed, was: Followup: 1TB hard drive on PATA machine
kony wrote:
Run the HDD manufacturer's diagnostic to check the drive. Yes. It gives errors on "Scan MC" and surface scan, all are reported as "ecc errors". Supplier sent me a courtest email today to see if all was well so I replied accordingly. If I were guessing, I'd guess you had a bad SATA connector, contact problem and being in the case to unplug and replug drives had shifted the wires just enough that the connectors are making better connection now. Tried running the diagnostic in a second newer machine, one with a SATA interface on the motherboard rather than a PCI interface. Same problems on the diagnostic. It must be the drive. A bit of web searching, there does appear to be an issue, but it might be the drives, it might be the diagnositic utility. However, that does not account for the hangs whilst attempting to format. Not confidence inspiring. Pete -- http://www.petezilla.co.uk |
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