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Question: IDE Pin Size
Can anyone tell me the size of IDE cable pins, and if it is possible
to get a connector for a single pin? Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:32:30 -0700 (PDT), Searcher7
wrote: Can anyone tell me the size of IDE cable pins, and if it is possible to get a connector for a single pin? Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. They're for 0.1" spaced pin headers, I don't recall the pin size but it's the same as you'd find on a computer fan header or case front panel connectors for LEDs, power switch etc. Cannibalizing an old PC case for it's front panel LED or switch cable is probably the easiest/cheapest, though you can pay a premium for something exactly like you want from an online place like Digikey... but there's way too may variants of connectors, it might help if you decribed exactly what you're trying to do and with what parts you already have. |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
On Jun 8, 9:11*pm, kony wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:32:30 -0700 (PDT), Searcher7 wrote: Can anyone tell me the size of IDE cable pins, and if it is possible to get a connector for a single pin? Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. They're for 0.1" spaced pin headers, I don't recall the pin size but it's the same as you'd find on a computer fan header or case front panel connectors for LEDs, power switch etc. Cannibalizing an old PC case for it's front panel LED or switch cable is probably the easiest/cheapest, though you can pay a premium for something exactly like you want from an online place like Digikey... but there's way too may variants of connectors, it might help if you decribed exactly what you're trying to do and with what parts you already have. I have a little PCB that is a MAME controller and need to connect it to arcade game controls. It's called the MiniPAC: http://www.ultimarc.com/minipac.html And I have no idea how to strip IDE cables since my strippers only strip as small as 20g.(the individual wires of an IDE cable are too small anyway). So I thought I'd try doing this one pin at a time.(I only need to use about 1/2 dozen of those pins anyway). Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jameco_page=42&langId=-1&productId=100766&catalogId=10001&freeText=100766 &storeId=10001&search_type=jameco&ddkey=http:Store CatalogDrillDownView
http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/catalogs/c292/P69.pdf On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:32:30 -0700 (PDT), Searcher7 wrote: Can anyone tell me the size of IDE cable pins, and if it is possible to get a connector for a single pin? Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:19:47 -0700 (PDT), Searcher7
wrote: On Jun 8, 9:11*pm, kony wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:32:30 -0700 (PDT), Searcher7 wrote: Can anyone tell me the size of IDE cable pins, and if it is possible to get a connector for a single pin? Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. They're for 0.1" spaced pin headers, I don't recall the pin size but it's the same as you'd find on a computer fan header or case front panel connectors for LEDs, power switch etc. Cannibalizing an old PC case for it's front panel LED or switch cable is probably the easiest/cheapest, though you can pay a premium for something exactly like you want from an online place like Digikey... but there's way too may variants of connectors, it might help if you decribed exactly what you're trying to do and with what parts you already have. I have a little PCB that is a MAME controller and need to connect it to arcade game controls. It's called the MiniPAC: http://www.ultimarc.com/minipac.html I don't understand yet, you have the controller board and you have the wiring harness, but the end of the harness opposite the end that plugs into the controller board, needs single pin connectors on it, or would multiple wires go to each game control so you need multi-pin connectors in a single or dual row pin arrangement? And I have no idea how to strip IDE cables since my strippers only strip as small as 20g.(the individual wires of an IDE cable are too small anyway). So you are trying to use an IDE cable instead of the pictured harness in the link above? Generally IDE cables are meant to use insulation displacement type connectors so they aren't stripped. Those tend to have more than one pin per connector. Are both the newer ATA66/100/133 80 conductor cables _and_ the older 40 conductor ATA33 cables both too small and by that I mean too small to carry the current? I would think they would suffice for logic level signals to a game controller, no? You might seek smaller strippers or put the split individual conductors on a surface with good traction and roll them under a new/sharp X-Acto knife blade by pushing the blade horizontally while exerting downward pressure. Some practice doing this with scrap wire may be useful before doing it to the actual cabling you use. So I thought I'd try doing this one pin at a time.(I only need to use about 1/2 dozen of those pins anyway). Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. If insulation displacement connectors will work, although they tend to be less reliable long-term, that would be easiest. Otherwise, the standard crimp-on connector inserts can be crimped onto each stripped wire then slid down into a connector block with the # of rows and pins you need. You mention a 1/2 dozen, so is this one pin per control or multiple? I am wondering if you were thinking of doing it one pin at a time because each control only uses one, or one pin at a time for some other reason. Here's an insulation displacement connector (IDC) with 6 pins, I did not see any with fewer pins but there are so many connectors on Digikey's website and catalog that I may have overlooked them. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=609-2841-ND I've not 100% sure about the following link but it seems to be the insulation displacement type for fewer pins, where there is no top cover that pushes the wire down, you use a small blunt flat tool (like a jeweler's screwdriver) to push the wire in far enough for the contact to cut through the insulation. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=A30994-ND As with the others, they are available for several different wire gauges so look at adjacent parts on the Digikey catalog pages linked from these product pages. Here is an example of a two pin crimp type connector like used on computer case front panel LEDs and switches. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=A28351-ND To find these and more I simply searched for 0.1" connector female, like this link does: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...female&stock=1 BUT when picking the individual attributes in the boxes, I didn't specify 0.1" because there are several that are 0.1" but do not come up when 0.1" is selected... meaning a bit more reading on the product page specs. I did not see any single pin connectors, but as mentioned previously digikey has so many I may have simply overlooked them. If you had to, you could order the 2 pin versions linked in the 2nd and 3rd link above, then using an X-Acto knife just slice off the extra position... the plastic is not very thick and is relatively soft, besides risking cutting a finger it is not hard to do with a sturdy sharp knife. |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:16:51 -0700, Andy wrote:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jameco_page=42&langId=-1&productId=100766&catalogId=10001&freeText=100766 &storeId=10001&search_type=jameco&ddkey=http:Store CatalogDrillDownView http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/catalogs/c292/P69.pdf He'll also need the plastic shells, then whichever contacts are suggested as compatible with that shell. I found a couple on Jameco's 'site, http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ctId=516200 & http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ctId=759658 & |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:51:48 -0400, kony wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:16:51 -0700, Andy wrote: http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jameco_page=42&langId=-1&productId=100766&catalogId=10001&freeText=100766 &storeId=10001&search_type=jameco&ddkey=http:Store CatalogDrillDownView http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/catalogs/c292/P69.pdf He'll also need the plastic shells, then whichever contacts are suggested as compatible with that shell. I found a couple on Jameco's 'site, http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ctId=516200 & http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ctId=759658 & I would use heat shrink tubing; it's a lot easier. |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:47:22 -0700, Andy wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:51:48 -0400, kony wrote: On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:16:51 -0700, Andy wrote: http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jameco_page=42&langId=-1&productId=100766&catalogId=10001&freeText=100766 &storeId=10001&search_type=jameco&ddkey=http:Store CatalogDrillDownView http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/catalogs/c292/P69.pdf He'll also need the plastic shells, then whichever contacts are suggested as compatible with that shell. I found a couple on Jameco's 'site, http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ctId=516200 & http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ctId=759658 & I would use heat shrink tubing; it's a lot easier. ?? Have you ever used those shells? The right contact just slides right in and click-locks, should be easier and quicker than using heat shrink tubing. If there is more than one pin on the male pin header, a formed modular female connector will also help keep the wires on the pin, help keep the female socket portion of the metal contact from deforming. On the other hand, if the OP were wanting to permanently solder the stripped wire to the pin header pin on the user input devices (for lack of a better word, since "controller" could mean a joystick or could refer to the board previously linked), heat shrink tubing would be ideal. |
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Question: IDE Pin Size
On Jun 10, 12:47 am, kony wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:19:47 -0700 (PDT),Searcher7 wrote: On Jun 8, 9:11 pm, kony wrote: On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:32:30 -0700 (PDT),Searcher7 wrote: Can anyone tell me the size of IDE cable pins, and if it is possible to get a connector for a single pin? Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. They're for 0.1" spaced pin headers, I don't recall the pin size but it's the same as you'd find on a computer fan header or case front panel connectors for LEDs, power switch etc. Cannibalizing an old PC case for it's front panel LED or switch cable is probably the easiest/cheapest, though you can pay a premium for something exactly like you want from an online place like Digikey... but there's way too may variants of connectors, it might help if you decribed exactly what you're trying to do and with what parts you already have. I have a little PCB that is a MAME controller and need to connect it to arcade game controls. It's called the MiniPAC:http://www.ultimarc.com/minipac.html I don't understand yet, you have the controller board and you have the wiring harness, but the end of the harness opposite the end that plugs into the controller board, needs single pin connectors on it, or would multiple wires go to each game control so you need multi-pin connectors in a single or dual row pin arrangement? And I have no idea how to strip IDE cables since my strippers only strip as small as 20g.(the individual wires of an IDE cable are too small anyway). So you are trying to use an IDE cable instead of the pictured harness in the link above? Generally IDE cables are meant to use insulation displacement type connectors so they aren't stripped. Those tend to have more than one pin per connector. Are both the newer ATA66/100/133 80 conductor cables _and_ the older 40 conductor ATA33 cables both too small and by that I mean too small to carry the current? I would think they would suffice for logic level signals to a game controller, no? You might seek smaller strippers or put the split individual conductors on a surface with good traction and roll them under a new/sharp X-Acto knife blade by pushing the blade horizontally while exerting downward pressure. Some practice doing this with scrap wire may be useful before doing it to the actual cabling you use. So I thought I'd try doing this one pin at a time.(I only need to use about 1/2 dozen of those pins anyway). Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. If insulation displacement connectors will work, although they tend to be less reliable long-term, that would be easiest. Otherwise, the standard crimp-on connector inserts can be crimped onto each stripped wire then slid down into a connector block with the # of rows and pins you need. You mention a 1/2 dozen, so is this one pin per control or multiple? I am wondering if you were thinking of doing it one pin at a time because each control only uses one, or one pin at a time for some other reason. Here's an insulation displacement connector (IDC) with 6 pins, I did not see any with fewer pins but there are so many connectors on Digikey's website and catalog that I may have overlooked them. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...tail&name=609-... I've not 100% sure about the following link but it seems to be the insulation displacement type for fewer pins, where there is no top cover that pushes the wire down, you use a small blunt flat tool (like a jeweler's screwdriver) to push the wire in far enough for the contact to cut through the insulation.http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...tail&name=A309... As with the others, they are available for several different wire gauges so look at adjacent parts on the Digikey catalog pages linked from these product pages. Here is an example of a two pin crimp type connector like used on computer case front panel LEDs and switches. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...tail&name=A283... To find these and more I simply searched for 0.1" connector female, like this link does:http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...t=1442549&keyw... BUT when picking the individual attributes in the boxes, I didn't specify 0.1" because there are several that are 0.1" but do not come up when 0.1" is selected... meaning a bit more reading on the product page specs. I did not see any single pin connectors, but as mentioned previously digikey has so many I may have simply overlooked them. If you had to, you could order the 2 pin versions linked in the 2nd and 3rd link above, then using an X-Acto knife just slice off the extra position... the plastic is not very thick and is relatively soft, besides risking cutting a finger it is not hard to do with a sturdy sharp knife. No, I don't have that harness pictured. The length of that 30 dollar harness is too short for my purposes, so I'm forced to find a way to make my own harness. The connector on that PCB is compatible with an IDE cable's connector, so I thought I'd split the wires of an IDE cable and connect them to a terminal strip since the wires are thin and not long either, and then wire up 18g leads from the terminal strip to the controls. Since I don't need all of the controls(PCB connections) and only a dozen or so connections will be needed, I thought perhaps I could get around using an IDE cable and look for a way to wire individual pins with the thicker 18g wire. Then I wouldn't need a terminal strip. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. |
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