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WiFi + Dialup
Is this possible - WiFi with dialup to Internet
Home does not have broadband (and can't get it). Two PCs, both with Windows XP Home, one a desktop, one a laptop. The desktop has a conventional dialup modem I want to be able to surf with laptop w/o being tied down by wires. If I set up a WiFi LAN, can I use Remote Desktop to let the laptop command the desktop to dialup and then surf, as if the laptop itself was dialed up to the web? The WiFi's ethernet connection to a broadband modem would not be used. Can both machines be XP Home or does desktop need to be XP Pro? Will printing work as expected, i.e., - desktop will print to its attached printer? Is there a more elegant solution? |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:16:38 GMT, Bennett Price
wrote: Is this possible - WiFi with dialup to Internet Home does not have broadband (and can't get it). Two PCs, both with Windows XP Home, one a desktop, one a laptop. The desktop has a conventional dialup modem I want to be able to surf with laptop w/o being tied down by wires. If I set up a WiFi LAN, can I use Remote Desktop to let the laptop command the desktop to dialup and then surf, as if the laptop itself was dialed up to the web? The WiFi's ethernet connection to a broadband modem would not be used. You could, but you'd be better off using ICS (internet connection sharing), setting the desktop w/modem as the gateway. Another alternative would be buying a router that has serial port with support for analog modem use. Seems like D-Link 704 does (the metal-cased version, don't know about the newer plastic one), but that's an older model now, might be harder to find... maybe on ebay? Can both machines be XP Home or does desktop need to be XP Pro? Either will do ICS, but Remote Desktop is only supported on XP Pro. I don't remember if that means both boxes have to be pro or which (client vs host) needs to be Pro. Will printing work as expected, i.e., - desktop will print to its attached printer? If you were using remote desktop, yes the desktop will print normally. However with any strategy you use, you can have networked printers for *all* printers on every box, such that you decide where to print what, and are able to set a default printer per each system.. Is there a more elegant solution? ICS is more elegant than remote desktop, the router w/serial port even moreso, but the winner would be satellite or terrestrial radio broadband access in conjunction with one of the former. |
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Thanks for your response. The 704 is discontinued but available on Ebay
for $10; unfortunately it's not wireless. It appears that OTC and Hawking make (made?) comparable wireless devices - I'll investigate further. I'll read up on ICS but if I'm not mistaken, with ICS the desktop would have to initiate the call and then the laptop could share it; if so, less than ideal for a couch potato. kony wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:16:38 GMT, Bennett Price wrote: Is this possible - WiFi with dialup to Internet Home does not have broadband (and can't get it). Two PCs, both with Windows XP Home, one a desktop, one a laptop. The desktop has a conventional dialup modem I want to be able to surf with laptop w/o being tied down by wires. If I set up a WiFi LAN, can I use Remote Desktop to let the laptop command the desktop to dialup and then surf, as if the laptop itself was dialed up to the web? The WiFi's ethernet connection to a broadband modem would not be used. You could, but you'd be better off using ICS (internet connection sharing), setting the desktop w/modem as the gateway. Another alternative would be buying a router that has serial port with support for analog modem use. Seems like D-Link 704 does (the metal-cased version, don't know about the newer plastic one), but that's an older model now, might be harder to find... maybe on ebay? Can both machines be XP Home or does desktop need to be XP Pro? Either will do ICS, but Remote Desktop is only supported on XP Pro. I don't remember if that means both boxes have to be pro or which (client vs host) needs to be Pro. Will printing work as expected, i.e., - desktop will print to its attached printer? If you were using remote desktop, yes the desktop will print normally. However with any strategy you use, you can have networked printers for *all* printers on every box, such that you decide where to print what, and are able to set a default printer per each system.. Is there a more elegant solution? ICS is more elegant than remote desktop, the router w/serial port even moreso, but the winner would be satellite or terrestrial radio broadband access in conjunction with one of the former. |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:50:34 GMT, Bennett Price
wrote: Thanks for your response. The 704 is discontinued but available on Ebay for $10; unfortunately it's not wireless. It appears that OTC and Hawking make (made?) comparable wireless devices - I'll investigate further. It doesn't have to be wireless. Plug it into the wired lan port on the wireless router-as-an-access-point, and enable DHCP on the 704 router but disable it on all other devices. Or, if you prefer to manually set up TCP/IP config on all clients, the 704's IP is the one used for the gateway on all systems, including those connecting through wifi. I'll read up on ICS but if I'm not mistaken, with ICS the desktop would have to initiate the call and then the laptop could share it; if so, less than ideal for a couch potato. The desktop does initiate the call, but automatically... you dont' have to go to the desktop to do anything. Personally I avoid ICS though, prefer a router.... more secure, no need for any particular system to be working for the others to access internet, and more versatility in configuration with the router opposed to ICS. |
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Many thanks for your thoughts; I appreciate it.
kony wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:50:34 GMT, Bennett Price wrote: Thanks for your response. The 704 is discontinued but available on Ebay for $10; unfortunately it's not wireless. It appears that OTC and Hawking make (made?) comparable wireless devices - I'll investigate further. It doesn't have to be wireless. Plug it into the wired lan port on the wireless router-as-an-access-point, and enable DHCP on the 704 router but disable it on all other devices. Or, if you prefer to manually set up TCP/IP config on all clients, the 704's IP is the one used for the gateway on all systems, including those connecting through wifi. I'll read up on ICS but if I'm not mistaken, with ICS the desktop would have to initiate the call and then the laptop could share it; if so, less than ideal for a couch potato. The desktop does initiate the call, but automatically... you dont' have to go to the desktop to do anything. Personally I avoid ICS though, prefer a router.... more secure, no need for any particular system to be working for the others to access internet, and more versatility in configuration with the router opposed to ICS. |
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"Bennett Price" wrote in message ... Many thanks for your thoughts; I appreciate it. kony wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:50:34 GMT, Bennett Price wrote: Thanks for your response. The 704 is discontinued but available on Ebay for $10; unfortunately it's not wireless. It appears that OTC and Hawking make (made?) comparable wireless devices - I'll investigate further. It doesn't have to be wireless. Plug it into the wired lan port on the wireless router-as-an-access-point, and enable DHCP on the 704 router but disable it on all other devices. Or, if you prefer to manually set up TCP/IP config on all clients, the 704's IP is the one used for the gateway on all systems, including those connecting through wifi. I'll read up on ICS but if I'm not mistaken, with ICS the desktop would have to initiate the call and then the laptop could share it; if so, less than ideal for a couch potato. The desktop does initiate the call, but automatically... you dont' have to go to the desktop to do anything. Personally I avoid ICS though, prefer a router.... more secure, no need for any particular system to be working for the others to access internet, and more versatility in configuration with the router opposed to ICS. dont get an access point or router they are expensive soltions, the best way is wireless ad-hoc using the PC the modem is connected to as an ICS gateway if you would like a complete guide to setting up an ad-hoc wireless network check out alt.windows-xp the post name "Wifi networks" i wrote someone a complee beginners guide practically there, it has a few flaws but should cover everything you could ever want to know about wireless computer networks HTH chris |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:41:23 -0000, "Christo"
wrote: dont get an access point or router they are expensive soltions, the best way is wireless ad-hoc using the PC the modem is connected to as an ICS gateway Actually for the past 18 months or so one could find wifi routers for less than $25 after rebates, making them nearly as inexpensive as the 2nd wifi card, but more secure. |
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