T2865 EMAchine Starts by itself

Sadly, par for the course with almost any name brand computer tech support...
Ben Myers

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:34:14 GMT, lid (Larrybelk) wrote:

I emailed both gateway and emachine and neither one were any help.


scoobadavewrote:
Larry,
The only thing I have not replaced in this PC is the CASE itself!
Unfortunately I dont have a case to try to see if there is a short
somewhere from the switch/case. I have replaced everything else.
I
was able to get the CD and DVD drives to open. I put a volt meter
and
the power supply is putting out the correct power! Have you tried
contacting eMachines yet? Because that is my next step or I am going
to
have him buy a barebones system and I am going to build him one
using
the components from this system (minus MB and maybe processor).

Let me know!!!




Larrybelk wrote:
Scoobie I got the same problems as you. The DVD RW drive will not
open
even though the light is on. So you replaced both PSU and
motherboard
and it is still the same?

Larry[/quote:55342191c7]

This is normal beahvior only if the computer gets very quiet again. Then,
pushing the power button should start up the computer.

If the computer seems to stay on when the power cord is plugged in, yet nothing
appears on screen, soemthing is definitely wrong with the computer... Ben Myers

On 16 Jul 2006 01:36:56 -0700, wrote:


Larrybelk wrote:
I have a T2865 Emachine that I moved from one location to another.
When I plug in the power cord it starts without me pushing the start
button. And nothing comes up on the screen? The graphics card is
good, HD is good. Anybody got any idea why this happens and what to
check?

This is known as AC power recovery. It's a relitiavely normal thing.
Don't worry about it.

Larrybelk wrote:
I have a T2865 Emachine that I moved from one location to another.
When I plug in the power cord it starts without me pushing the start
button. And nothing comes up on the screen? The graphics card is
good, HD is good. Anybody got any idea why this happens and what to
check?

Thanks
Larry

Emacines have this thing where any 2 of the following three things go
simultaneously: Motherborad, Powersupply, Processor.

submitted this idea :
Larrybelk wrote:
I have a T2865 Emachine that I moved from one location to another.
When I plug in the power cord it starts without me pushing the start
button. And nothing comes up on the screen? The graphics card is
good, HD is good. Anybody got any idea why this happens and what to
check?

Thanks
Larry

Emacines have this thing where any 2 of the following three things go
simultaneously: Motherborad, Powersupply, Processor.


Paul, in my opinion all of the inexpensive computers made in the
same/similar oversea production plants have the same flaw… It is not
only gateway/emachine/dell/hp/compaq tis all cheap ones...

Motherboard traces are not adequately inspected or the parts have lower
quality standards and will fail a high quality test function. The
motherboard trace failures will short circuit tripping the power
supply, memory and processor or any combination...

But many of these basic computers survive, and have become good desktop
boxes for the undemanding consumers in the USA, where we now have the
adopted the toss the computer out every 18 months…

With notebooks selling below $400 that is a very similar consumer
computer market, buy today; put in the garage or toss in the trash if
it does not work…

JR the postman

Postman delivers wrote:
submitted this idea :
Larrybelk wrote:
I have a T2865 Emachine that I moved from one location to another.
When I plug in the power cord it starts without me pushing the start
button. And nothing comes up on the screen? The graphics card is
good, HD is good. Anybody got any idea why this happens and what to
check?

Thanks
Larry

Emacines have this thing where any 2 of the following three things go
simultaneously: Motherborad, Powersupply, Processor.


Paul, in my opinion all of the inexpensive computers made in the
same/similar oversea production plants have the same flaw... It is not
only gateway/emachine/dell/hp/compaq tis all cheap ones...

Motherboard traces are not adequately inspected or the parts have lower
quality standards and will fail a high quality test function. The
motherboard trace failures will short circuit tripping the power
supply, memory and processor or any combination...

But many of these basic computers survive, and have become good desktop
boxes for the undemanding consumers in the USA, where we now have the
adopted the toss the computer out every 18 months...

With notebooks selling below $400 that is a very similar consumer
computer market, buy today; put in the garage or toss in the trash if
it does not work...

JR the postman

Since I work at a computer recycling facility, I have a fair idea what
machines die, and why. The blank and silver emachines, in particular
die when the power supply and motherboard go up in flames (ok, not
actual flames ). Right after the warrenty expires.

Compaq deskpro series is actually pretty rock solid. It's the Presario
series that earned compaq it's deserved nickname "comcrap".

Dells are also generally rock-solid.

Hp pavillions have a power supply that goes out at around 5 years, but
doesn't kill the machine. ECS and some other El Cheapo manufactores of
motherboards are vulnerable to capicitor failure. Few of the Name
Brands are vulnerable. Though, I've seen it happen.

Gateway, has had some really bad lines of computers (the micro-desktops
in particular), but also some that are rock-solid.

Also, MicroStar motherboards have been prone to capacitor failure. IBM used
MicroStar boards, and had a lot of Pentium 3 motherboard failures.

ECS is one of the many brand-names for PC Chips motherboards. There are also
Matsonic and a few other forgettable brand names which are really PC Chips,
which gained its initial fame back in 486 days by using fake cache chips. This
was back when Level 2 caches were made from SRAM chips separate from the
processor. PC Chips reputation has not improved since then, but like a lot of
other junk, the motherboards manage to run for a while. But I have replaced a
large number of failed PC Chips boards.

If and when you get a new motherboard (or ANY add-in device) with a user's
guide, the real tipoff to lack of product quality is when the manufacturer's
name does not even appear in print and there is no place to contact for tech
support.

I generally concur with your assessment of computer quality, based on my
experience... Ben Myers

On 21 Jul 2006 19:00:07 -0700, wrote:


Postman delivers wrote:
submitted this idea :
Larrybelk wrote:
I have a T2865 Emachine that I moved from one location to another.
When I plug in the power cord it starts without me pushing the start
button. And nothing comes up on the screen? The graphics card is
good, HD is good. Anybody got any idea why this happens and what to
check?

Thanks
Larry

Emacines have this thing where any 2 of the following three things go
simultaneously: Motherborad, Powersupply, Processor.


Paul, in my opinion all of the inexpensive computers made in the
same/similar oversea production plants have the same flaw... It is not
only gateway/emachine/dell/hp/compaq tis all cheap ones...

Motherboard traces are not adequately inspected or the parts have lower
quality standards and will fail a high quality test function. The
motherboard trace failures will short circuit tripping the power
supply, memory and processor or any combination...

But many of these basic computers survive, and have become good desktop
boxes for the undemanding consumers in the USA, where we now have the
adopted the toss the computer out every 18 months...

With notebooks selling below $400 that is a very similar consumer
computer market, buy today; put in the garage or toss in the trash if
it does not work...

JR the postman

Since I work at a computer recycling facility, I have a fair idea what
machines die, and why. The blank and silver emachines, in particular
die when the power supply and motherboard go up in flames (ok, not
actual flames ). Right after the warrenty expires.

Compaq deskpro series is actually pretty rock solid. It's the Presario
series that earned compaq it's deserved nickname "comcrap".

Dells are also generally rock-solid.

Hp pavillions have a power supply that goes out at around 5 years, but
doesn't kill the machine. ECS and some other El Cheapo manufactores of
motherboards are vulnerable to capicitor failure. Few of the Name
Brands are vulnerable. Though, I've seen it happen.

Gateway, has had some really bad lines of computers (the micro-desktops
in particular), but also some that are rock-solid.

Ben Myers wrote:
Also, MicroStar motherboards have been prone to capacitor failure. IBM used
MicroStar boards, and had a lot of Pentium 3 motherboard failures.

ECS is one of the many brand-names for PC Chips motherboards. There are also
Matsonic and a few other forgettable brand names which are really PC Chips,
which gained its initial fame back in 486 days by using fake cache chips. This
was back when Level 2 caches were made from SRAM chips separate from the
processor. PC Chips reputation has not improved since then, but like a lot of
other junk, the motherboards manage to run for a while. But I have replaced a
large number of failed PC Chips boards.

I saw one, where one of the small shops must have realized that some of
their computers were coming back with Bad Caps. They apparenly decided
to make Lemonade out of the lemons. They put in low power VIA C3s into
a board that supported a Tualatin 1400, in hopes that the caps would
hold. They did, as long as no one decided to upgrade. Since the board
was working well, and i'd checked the caps out in advance. I went and
put in the Celeron 1400, three days later, the caps started bulging....


And Just today, I had to scrap 3 Soyo computers for the capaicitor
plague.


If and when you get a new motherboard (or ANY add-in device) with a user's
guide, the real tipoff to lack of product quality is when the manufacturer's
name does not even appear in print and there is no place to contact for tech
support.

Sigh, I never get the manuals.....

I generally concur with your assessment of computer quality, based on my
experience... Ben Myers

On 21 Jul 2006 19:00:07 -0700, wrote:

Ben Myers wrote:
Also, MicroStar motherboards have been prone to capacitor failure. IBM used
MicroStar boards, and had a lot of Pentium 3 motherboard failures.

ECS is one of the many brand-names for PC Chips motherboards. There are also
Matsonic and a few other forgettable brand names which are really PC Chips,
which gained its initial fame back in 486 days by using fake cache chips. This
was back when Level 2 caches were made from SRAM chips separate from the
processor. PC Chips reputation has not improved since then, but like a lot of
other junk, the motherboards manage to run for a while. But I have replaced a
large number of failed PC Chips boards.

I saw one, where one of the small shops must have realized that some of
their computers were coming back with Bad Caps. They apparenly decided
to make Lemonade out of the lemons. They put in low power VIA C3s into
a board that supported a Tualatin 1400, in hopes that the caps would
hold. They did, as long as no one decided to upgrade. Since the board
was working well, and i'd checked the caps out in advance. I went and
put in the Celeron 1400, three days later, the caps started bulging....


And Just today, I had to scrap 3 Soyo computers for the capaicitor
plague.


If and when you get a new motherboard (or ANY add-in device) with a user's
guide, the real tipoff to lack of product quality is when the manufacturer's
name does not even appear in print and there is no place to contact for tech
support.

Sigh, I never get the manuals.....

I generally concur with your assessment of computer quality, based on my
experience... Ben Myers

On 21 Jul 2006 19:00:07 -0700, wrote:

Anyone know the beep codes on the eMachines T2865 ?
Could not find them anywhere on eMachines site.
Started my T2865 today, and it emits a single beep
every few seconds with nothing displayed on monitor.



Best Regards, Bob Johnson

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If you are lucky enough to have an Intel-designed motherboard, you can get the
beep codes by downloading the spec for the motherboard from the Intel web site.
To my surprise, eMachines uses some Intel boards... Ben Myers

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:58:22 -0700, Bob Johnson wrote:

Anyone know the beep codes on the eMachines T2865 ?
Could not find them anywhere on eMachines site.
Started my T2865 today, and it emits a single beep
every few seconds with nothing displayed on monitor.



Best Regards, Bob Johnson

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