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Video: Skybuck's DreamPC from 2006 boots up strangely
Hello,
This video on youtube shows the strange procedure I have to follow to boot up my computer lately: https://youtu.be/oglScNl_jjw This strange problem started occuring after I accidently put the computer into sleep mode, and re-powered the system after the power was cut but the fans had not completely stopped spinning. Did perhaps the spinning of the fans cause some kind of purge surge ? Perhaps the copper coils inside the fans caused some kind of feedback power into the system ? My first hypothesis/hunch was that it might be a bios bug/race condition. I pulled out all cables, cut the power, even removed the battery, but this did not help. So perhaps it's hardware damage instead of software bug ? One last thing I have not tried yet is to reset the CMOS ? Perhaps the CMOS of my DreamPC can remember settings without batery power ? To me that seems somewhat unlikely but what do I know ?! Anyway I share this video with you to show this very strange and bizar boot sequence/problem/procedure. I would love to hear any theories/hypothesis what might be causing this. So far, before I showed this video and told this story people have written back with following feedback/advice/theories: 1. Power supply might be giving a bad "good power" signal. DreamPC2006 currently has OCZ Stream X power supply it has. (I could look into it further for more details though googling Skybuck's DreamPC might also uncover more info about it from my previous postings). Personally I cannot imagine this brand which was somewhat expensive to have this problem ? Though I can imagine that wear and tear over the years might have caused this... or perhaps lightning. Then again it seems very minor and such... so very strange... It didn't fail completely... it's just behaving strangely ??? 2. Wrong settings for CPU ? The system boots with defaults... no overclocking is used or ever was used. Surely the system should boot with defaults ? I cannot imagine it not booting with defaults... Very strange. Perhaps try and set it to 2.0 ghz instead of standard ?! Haven't tried this yet cause it's such a strange theory and I am not sure if setting different settings than default is save. 3. Batteries inside keyboard/mouse remembering weird settings. My mouse/keyboard don't have any batteries, they just USB. I don't know if they have any memory though that stays resident after power cut ?!? 4. All cables were removed and power shutdown and CMOS battery removed, and everything reconnected, this did not help. Was further strange about this system which it has done for years now. When I touch a key or mouse or even the case it would power on ?! Those settings were disabled in the bios but it still does it ?! Could this indicate some strange wiring problem ? 5. My latest theory, some plug/cable is misplaced inside of it, or the flash/card reader drive is causing some strange electrical effect, or perhaps even wrongly connected, I even once fried a system with such a plug connecting it wrongly... I believe I did connect it correctly... but perhaps these are just shady devices. I don't feel like experimenting with replugging cables unless there is hardcore proof that something was connected wrongly ! I'd right not fry my system or mess with it... unless some solution sounds credible and doesn't sound like it could endager my system. This system has to survive until at least 2017 february. By that time I should have a new AMD Zen based system ! =D But it would be very cool if my old computer woulds survive like all my other computers... there is a lot of info on it and it's still usefull and it would make a nice backup computer. This current boot procedure is making me nervous... I am slightly worried that someday this will cause it to fry to death. Since these components are old and especially the socket 939 motherboard, I will probably not find an replacement easily.... though I just remembered I do have a backup motherboard lying around somewhere, so perhaps that could save me in the feature in case it's the motherboard and/or it's chips that go bad in the near future.. Let me know what you think is causing this weird power on/boot problem ?!?!?!? Bye, Skybuck. |
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Video: Skybuck's DreamPC from 2006 boots up strangely
The power supply failed/died.
Cause of death, high probability: New couch (static charge generator) + New shoes (isolator) leading to static discharge of 1500 volts onto PC by human body standing up from couch wearing isolators (shoes) then touching PC. Remedies for futu Shoes replaced by spanish slipper. Couch will be returned to store. Perhaps new leather couched will be bought or old couch re-used for time being. |
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Video: Skybuck's DreamPC from 2006 boots up strangely
Pentium 3 had seasonic S12 600 watt power supply.
Bought new power supply for AMD X2 3800+. New power supply was not capable of running machine, probably amperes too low. Computer store guy probably a complete idiot/knowledge out of date... anyway... new computer supply did work in older machine. New computer supply would make newer machine beep beep beep. Just like to point out that buying a new power supply is no garantuee that it will work. The guy asked what graphics card was in it... I told PCI express... In all fairness... they not a true computer shop... just an electronics shop that build some computers on the side. It was some kind of silver/aluminum LG or LCS power supply or something like that 350 watts... 80 low noise or something... insides looked nice.. costed 50 bucks... However I noticed something worrieing... "Cooling paste" ? That clueless guy in store called it ? I believe it's just sloppy glue... The glue I between the power incoming connection and the grid/fence... If that stuff goes brown it might conduct and might be a problem. Fortunately I don't use P3 much... I will inform you guys better at a later date and ask you what you think of it... by showing pictures and such... And what that round thing is near where the electricity comes in... I am a bit worried that it might fry me some day if I were to regularly use it. I removed a little bit of the glue so it wouldnt make contact but 0.5 millimeter removed is probably not enough. So will let you guys look at this at a later date. The white stuff that can be found in electronics that looks like a chinese came inside of it ?! Is it glue or is it cooling paste ?! I read somewhere... probably on usenet once... that it s glue to hold components together... Also the cooling paste theory seems bull... because this stuff is just splattered all over it in a sloppy way guess what "made in china". Anyway I thought the Seasonic S12 was better. I opened it up to inspect it... it was slightly stuck... but ok... blow out all the dust. To my surprise there is also whitesh glue in it... but it's not entirely white... it has gone pink a bit. This seasonic S12 power supply was in use when my system overheated !!!! So some of that heat probably went into the power supply, the heat came from the CPU and mostly GPUs... and thus the power supply's glue could also heat up by EXTERNAL factors ! Which is quite an important/amazing discovery/conclusion by myself ! Fortunately it seems to be just pink... not brown. Perhaps a bit orange like here and there... some brownish tiny spots here and there. I am not 100% confident about this power supply. But so far so good. This glue stuff is worrieing: Electronics industry please stop using it ! This glue stuff can go conductive ! I will post a special warning about that on electronics newsgroup ! |
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