Question about External DVD Burner using USB 2.0, I have USB 1.0...

Take a look at the reviews of USB external 16x burners on CDRInfo.com.
They seem to have no problems burning at 16x (with 8x media) with most
of the drives.. Excepting the Liteon.

Almost nobody?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:31:21 -0700, "Dan G" wrote:

There are always exceptions, but almost nobody has ever gotten more than 8x
from USB2, and Firewire is always faster unless you have a bad controller.
Some people can get 12x with USB2, but it's not stable.


"Shiranui Gen-An" wrote in message
. ..
Dan G wrote:
Firewire is much better than USB2, it has greater throughput and is a
2-way
connect. Max speeds on USB2 generally do not exceed 8x DVD and usually
around 12x DVD on Firewire. Firewire is also less troublesome.


"Jim B" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC), (Mike S.)

wrote:

How about Firewire card, how much and which one is tthe better one?


USB 2.0 cards are cheap and plentiful.




It is possible to burn at 16x using USB2.0:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/px716uf/px716uf2.htm

If you notice, the author of the site couldn't reach 16x using IEE1394.

Please consider the source of the info. Selecting "16x" burn speed is not
the same as actually completing the burn in 6 min at a full 16x speed.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Take a look at the reviews of USB external 16x burners on CDRInfo.com.
They seem to have no problems burning at 16x (with 8x media) with most
of the drives.. Excepting the Liteon.

Almost nobody?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:31:21 -0700, "Dan G" wrote:

There are always exceptions, but almost nobody has ever gotten more than
8x
from USB2, and Firewire is always faster unless you have a bad
controller.
Some people can get 12x with USB2, but it's not stable.


"Shiranui Gen-An" wrote in message
. ..
Dan G wrote:
Firewire is much better than USB2, it has greater throughput and is a
2-way
connect. Max speeds on USB2 generally do not exceed 8x DVD and
usually
around 12x DVD on Firewire. Firewire is also less troublesome.


"Jim B" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC), (Mike
S.)

wrote:

How about Firewire card, how much and which one is tthe better one?


USB 2.0 cards are cheap and plentiful.




It is possible to burn at 16x using USB2.0:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/px716uf/px716uf2.htm

If you notice, the author of the site couldn't reach 16x using IEE1394.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:55:30 -0700, smh wrote:

These are identical:

http://groups.google.com /advanced_group_search
http://groups.google.co.uk/advanced_group_search

They use the same forms, but the search results are displayed
differently.


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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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Noik wrote:
smh wrote:

These are identical:

http://groups.google.com /advanced_group_search
http://groups.google.co.uk/advanced_group_search

They use the same forms, but the search results are displayed
differently.

Very interesting:

Results 1 - 10 of 5,520 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.
Results 1 - 10 of 3,730 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0. -- English

Results 1 - 10 of about 13,200 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.
Results 1 - 10 of about 8,360 English messages for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.

Thanks for the tip.


================================================== ======
Who Is Mike Richter and
Why Are They Saying All These Horrible Things About Him?
================================================== ======
http://tinyurl.com/6eldj

(No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the following is a LIBEL)
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

Mike Richter is a LIAR (wife beating)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (critical bugs)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (major bug)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (nda limit)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (nda)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (no secret)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (no secret)(ii)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (dae)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (enhanced-cd)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (no enhanced cd)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (enhanced-cd/cdr-faq)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (cd-extra/cd-text)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (cd-extra/sao/tao)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (cd-extra/single-session)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/winme)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/winme)(ii)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(ii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(iii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/win2k)(iv)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (aspi/plextor)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(ii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(iii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(iv)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(v)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(vi)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(vii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(8a)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(9a)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (i)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (ii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (iii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (iv)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (v)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (vi)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (vii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (viii)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (ix)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (x)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (xi)
Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/sparing) (xii)

Mike Richter is a LIAR (supplied cd)

What's wrong with Mike Richter (Tim Kroesen) (i)
What's wrong with Mike Richter (Tim Kroesen) (ii)

Mike Richter Wow! Wow! Wow!

Mike Richter's Exquisite Sense of Time (i)
Mike Richter's Exquisite Sense of Time (ii)
Mike Richter's Exquisite Sense of Time (iii)

Mike Richter & "Looooooooonng" Time for Nothing

What an Asshole

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:55:14 -0700, smh wrote:

Very interesting:

Results 1 - 10 of 5,520 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.
Results 1 - 10 of 3,730 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0. -- English

Results 1 - 10 of about 13,200 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.
Results 1 - 10 of about 8,360 English messages for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.

Thanks for the tip.

I'm surprised to see that, and I have no idea what the actual
significance of it is. But I kinda doubt that one really has more
relevant articles archived than the other. My problem with the original
beta groups.google.com was that I couldn't even get to the articles
that generated hits, it was a complete cluster-**** as far as I could
tell. I read about other Googles that were still working the old way,
started using them, and never looked back, till now. I forget exactly
what the problem was, but it doesn't seem to be the same cluster-****
it was at first.


--
N

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

Noik wrote:
smh wrote:

Very interesting:

Results 1 - 10 of 5,520 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.
Results 1 - 10 of 3,730 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0. -- English

Results 1 - 10 of about 13,200 for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.
Results 1 - 10 of about 8,360 English messages for dvd usb 1.0 2.0.

Thanks for the tip.

I'm surprised to see that, and I have no idea what the actual
significance of it is. But I kinda doubt that one really has more
relevant articles archived than the other. My problem with the original
beta groups.google.com was that I couldn't even get to the articles
that generated hits, it was a complete cluster-**** as far as I could
tell. I read about other Googles that were still working the old way,
started using them, and never looked back, till now. I forget exactly
what the problem was, but it doesn't seem to be the same cluster-****
it was at first.

The uk groups.google is the old Dejanews. The major shortcoming with it
is that a new thread is created if the subject line is modified in any
way.

The new (us) groups.google has gone thru many changes. The only change
I like is the threading problem is fixed. Presently what needs fixing
is its handling of quoted text - some non-quoted text are treated as
quoted text. Hope they fix this thing soon.

For a while there, the new groups.google munged message id's and thus
couldn't find the message, and that must have been the time you had
trouble. And for a while there, "Thread View" was missing in Options.

For "general" search the new one seems to be more "refined", however.

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Mikey, you are the Slimiest Friggin SOB!
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:48:16 -0700, smh wrote:

The uk groups.google is the old Dejanews.

Well, groups.google started after Google bought Dejanews and
resurrected the news search. All the old archived stuff came from
Dejanews.



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CDRInfro (www.cdrinfo.com) has tested 3 external USB 2.0 burners rated
at 16X. These are their test results, all at 16x, all full DVD's,
various media:

Philips ED16DVDR external - 5:44-5:53
Freecom FX-50 external 16X - 6:03-6:38
Memorex D² External - 5:56-5:59
Pioneer DVR-S706-J external - 5:11-6:25

Some of the media tests using DVD-R media were a little slower,
approaching 8 minutes.

I would tend to believe an independent testing facility over someone
making blanket statements referring to "some people".

Can you quote your source that "almost nobody has gotten more than
8x"?



On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:35:03 -0700, "Dan G" wrote:

Please consider the source of the info. Selecting "16x" burn speed is not
the same as actually completing the burn in 6 min at a full 16x speed.


"Dave" wrote in message
.. .
Take a look at the reviews of USB external 16x burners on CDRInfo.com.
They seem to have no problems burning at 16x (with 8x media) with most
of the drives.. Excepting the Liteon.

Almost nobody?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:31:21 -0700, "Dan G" wrote:

There are always exceptions, but almost nobody has ever gotten more than
8x
from USB2, and Firewire is always faster unless you have a bad
controller.
Some people can get 12x with USB2, but it's not stable.


"Shiranui Gen-An" wrote in message
. ..
Dan G wrote:
Firewire is much better than USB2, it has greater throughput and is a
2-way
connect. Max speeds on USB2 generally do not exceed 8x DVD and
usually
around 12x DVD on Firewire. Firewire is also less troublesome.


"Jim B" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC), (Mike
S.)

wrote:

How about Firewire card, how much and which one is tthe better one?


USB 2.0 cards are cheap and plentiful.




It is possible to burn at 16x using USB2.0:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/px716uf/px716uf2.htm

If you notice, the author of the site couldn't reach 16x using IEE1394.

Jim B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC), (Mike S.) wrote:

How about Firewire card, how much and which one is tthe better one?


USB 2.0 cards are cheap and plentiful.



From http://www.usb.org/faq/ans2#q7
Q7: So how does USB compare to IEEE-1394?

A7: While the two serial buses seem similar, they are intended to
fulfill different market and cost needs. 1394 has the potential to move
more data in a given amount of time, but is considerably more expensive
than USB due to its more complex protocol and signaling rate.
Applications that are best suited for 1394 are high quality consumer or
professional video streams and other high bandwidth entertainment
applications; all higher end consumer devices. USB is appropriate for
high and low bandwidth computer peripherals such as mass storage,video,
audio, scanners, printers, keyboards, and just about any peripheral.

Jim B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC), (Mike S.) wrote:

How about Firewire card, how much and which one is tthe better one?


USB 2.0 cards are cheap and plentiful.



From http://www.usb.org/faq/ans2#q7
Q7: So how does USB compare to IEEE-1394?

A7: While the two serial buses seem similar, they are intended to
fulfill different market and cost needs. 1394 has the potential to move
more data in a given amount of time, but is considerably more expensive
than USB due to its more complex protocol and signaling rate.
Applications that are best suited for 1394 are high quality consumer or
professional video streams and other high bandwidth entertainment
applications; all higher end consumer devices. USB is appropriate for
high and low bandwidth computer peripherals such as mass storage,video,
audio, scanners, printers, keyboards, and just about any peripheral.