Is Plextor still in business?

How about InCD that comes with Nero? I really don't use RW discs that
much so I've never really had a need for DCD.

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is: what do you
suggest in place of DirectCD?

-GV

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)


Curtis Croulet wrote:

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is: what do you
suggest in place of DirectCD?

DLA (in RecordNow) or InstantWrite (in InstantCD/DVD).

(Drive support is better with InstantWrite.)

Curtis Croulet wrote:

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is: what do you
suggest in place of DirectCD?

If you want to be really certain that you'll be able to read the disc in
the future then I'd forget about packet writing software altogether. It
always seems more troublesome than stand alone burning software like
Nero.

It might also be worth uninstalling PlexManager if you have that
installed.

Cheers.

James.

typed:

Curtis Croulet wrote:

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is:
what do you suggest in place of DirectCD?

If you want to be really certain that you'll be able to read the disc
in
the future then I'd forget about packet writing software altogether.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
I second that.
I've read too many times that packet writing can forget all the data so i
wouldn't trust it...
Suppoesly MtRW is somewhat better in this way, but who knows (InCD supports
MtRW, but i doubt your old plex does)

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have examples of misquotes! )


SleeperMan wrote:
James.R.Perrett typed:
Curtis Croulet wrote:

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is:
what do you suggest in place of DirectCD?

If you want to be really certain that you'll be able to read the disc
in
the future then I'd forget about packet writing software altogether.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
I second that.
I've read too many times that packet writing can forget all the data so i
wouldn't trust it...
Suppoesly MtRW is somewhat better in this way, but who knows (InCD supports
MtRW, but i doubt your old plex does)

Most of the so-called packet writing problems are DirectCD problems.
Remember that DirectCD is not THE packet writing; DirectCD bugs do not
translate into packet writing "faults".

Maybe you subscribe to these:

Packet writing is less reliable than mastering,
thus packet writing is unreliable.

CD-RW media less reliable than CD-R,
thus CD-RW media is unreliable.

Also, maybe you can respond to this?

==============================
From: Edward W. Thompson
Subject: Nero InCD 3.2 vs WinXP CD Writer software (roxio)
Date: 2/22/02

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

You are thinking of replacing a relatively secure filing system,
with a less stable one, simply to allow you to delete individual
files from a rewritable disc?

If one accepts the statement that UDF is insecure, (I assume that is
what is meant by "less stable") it would be absurd to use it.
Although I have seen many statements to the effect that data has been
lost on UDF disks I have not had that experience over the past 4 to 5
years. Most statement criticizing UDF are linked to long term data
storage. I don't use CD-RW media for long term storage only short
term therefore if it is true that data can be lost over time, that
does not bother me.

I have yet to see any proof that data written to UDF is any less secure
than to any other magnetic or optical media either in short or long
term. Further, I am surprised that reputable manufacturers would market
the CD-RW system if it could be shown it was inherently unreliable.
==============================

Well, i do use occasionally UDF (i use InCD) and so far i didn't have any
problems. But i do have two copies of CDRW identical just in case.
I did had some CDR's come useless (parts of it unreadable), so from this
point i wouldn't give CDR any better score than CDRW.
On the other hand i wouldn't rely on the fact that if CDRW is widely made
from known and good companies, it's automatically meant that it's good,
reliable etc. Media is made because it sells and that's the only reason.
However, if it would be bad, people would stop buying it and they would stop
producing it...
But i do wonder what is all about DVD R or W system - is it any more or less
reiable than CDR? I mean OK, you loose CDR(W), you loose 700M. But if you
loose one single DVD R(W), you loose ****ing 4,7 G!!!


typed:

. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have examples of misquotes! )


SleeperMan wrote:
James.R.Perrett typed:
Curtis Croulet wrote:

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is:
what do you suggest in place of DirectCD?

If you want to be really certain that you'll be able to read the
disc
in
the future then I'd forget about packet writing software altogether.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
I second that.
I've read too many times that packet writing can forget all the data
so i wouldn't trust it...
Suppoesly MtRW is somewhat better in this way, but who knows (InCD
supports MtRW, but i doubt your old plex does)

Most of the so-called packet writing problems are DirectCD problems.
Remember that DirectCD is not THE packet writing; DirectCD bugs do
not translate into packet writing "faults".

Maybe you subscribe to these:

Packet writing is less reliable than mastering,
thus packet writing is unreliable.

CD-RW media less reliable than CD-R,
thus CD-RW media is unreliable.

Also, maybe you can respond to this?

==============================
From: Edward W. Thompson
Subject: Nero InCD 3.2 vs WinXP CD Writer software (roxio)
Date: 2/22/02

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

You are thinking of replacing a relatively secure filing system,
with a less stable one, simply to allow you to delete individual
files from a rewritable disc?

If one accepts the statement that UDF is insecure, (I assume that is
what is meant by "less stable") it would be absurd to use it.
Although I have seen many statements to the effect that data has been
lost on UDF disks I have not had that experience over the past 4 to 5
years. Most statement criticizing UDF are linked to long term data
storage. I don't use CD-RW media for long term storage only short
term therefore if it is true that data can be lost over time, that
does not bother me.

I have yet to see any proof that data written to UDF is any less
secure
than to any other magnetic or optical media either in short or long
term. Further, I am surprised that reputable manufacturers would
market
the CD-RW system if it could be shown it was inherently unreliable.
==============================

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have examples of misquotes! )


SleeperMan wrote:
James.R.Perrett typed:
Curtis Croulet wrote:

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is:
what do you suggest in place of DirectCD?

If you want to be really certain that you'll be able to read the disc
in
the future then I'd forget about packet writing software altogether.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
I second that.
I've read too many times that packet writing can forget all the data so i
wouldn't trust it...
Suppoesly MtRW is somewhat better in this way, but who knows (InCD supports
MtRW, but i doubt your old plex does)

Most of the so-called packet writing problems are DirectCD problems.
Remember that DirectCD is not THE packet writing; DirectCD bugs do not
translate into packet writing "faults".


===========================================
Noone wrote:

Anyone who uses UseNet knows that the posts are from other people, and are
not the definitive answer on anything.
If there is some mis information or "Half-Baked Research", I think everyone
understands that's what UseNet is.

Are you saying even the almighty Mikey Richter posts misinformation?
Are the following merely misinformation?

When Mikey was shilling for Take Two, the supposedly *inherently* flaky,
fragile, faulty, unreliable packet writing format was good enough for
BACKUP, of all things, even when combined with supposedly *inherently*
flaky, fragile, forgetful, unreliable cd-rw media:

=====================
From: Mike Richter (Acraptec Shill)
Subject: A note on Take Two
Date: 9/1/99

You may back up ...to a DCD-formatted erasable.
=====================

But then when the reports of DirectCD bugs started pouring in, the same
combination of packet writing format and cd-rw media -- that was good
enough for BACKUP -- became LETHAL for archiving:

=====================
From: Mike Richter (cRoxio Shill)
Subject: File Integrity Errors - DirectCD Bug?
Date: 10/15/01

Combining the flaky UDF fixed-length packets with
the tendency of erasables (particularly HS) to forget
is LETHAL for archiving.
=====================

Again, are the above merely misinformation?
===========================================

Perhaps this could help -- it seems it is the splash screen stuff and
does not need to run from some comments :
http://club.cdfreaks.com/archive/topic/show/41617
( do a quick google search on plxstart )

--
Mike "mikey" Fields
http://home.comcast.net/~mike.fields/
outgoing email scanned by Norton Antivirus ... is that good ?

Linux users brag on how long their system stays up,
Window users assume it's a temporary condition ...


"Curtis Croulet" wrote in message
. ..
So it wasn't Plextor's fault, it was Adaptec/Roxio's fault. Big
surprise.

That was the problem then. I don't know what the main problem is now, but
something called 'plxstart' keeps locking up my system.
--
Curtis Croulet
Temecula, California
33° 27' 59" N, 117° 05' 53" W

Just to say that no reasonable discussions on packet writing and cd-rw
media can be carried out in these supposedly technical cdr groups so
long as many swear by these cockamamies:

Packet writing is less reliable than mastering,
thus packet writing is unreliable.

CD-RW media less reliable than CD-R,
thus CD-RW media is unreliable.

the fault is not with the software, but with the format

--------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------


SleeperMan wrote:

Well, i do use occasionally UDF (i use InCD) and so far i didn't have any
problems. But i do have two copies of CDRW identical just in case.
I did had some CDR's come useless (parts of it unreadable), so from this
point i wouldn't give CDR any better score than CDRW.
On the other hand i wouldn't rely on the fact that if CDRW is widely made
from known and good companies, it's automatically meant that it's good,
reliable etc. Media is made because it sells and that's the only reason.
However, if it would be bad, people would stop buying it and they would stop
producing it...
But i do wonder what is all about DVD R or W system - is it any more or less
reiable than CDR? I mean OK, you loose CDR(W), you loose 700M. But if you
loose one single DVD R(W), you loose ****ing 4,7 G!!!


smh typed:
SleeperMan wrote:
James.R.Perrett typed:
Curtis Croulet wrote:

Really, a better question (since I *did* come here for advice) is:
what do you suggest in place of DirectCD?

If you want to be really certain that you'll be able to read the
disc in
the future then I'd forget about packet writing software altogether.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
I second that.
I've read too many times that packet writing can forget all the data
so i wouldn't trust it...
Suppoesly MtRW is somewhat better in this way, but who knows (InCD
supports MtRW, but i doubt your old plex does)

Most of the so-called packet writing problems are DirectCD problems.
Remember that DirectCD is not THE packet writing; DirectCD bugs do
not translate into packet writing "faults".

Maybe you subscribe to these:

Packet writing is less reliable than mastering,
thus packet writing is unreliable.

CD-RW media less reliable than CD-R,
thus CD-RW media is unreliable.

Also, maybe you can respond to this?

==============================
From: Edward W. Thompson
Subject: Nero InCD 3.2 vs WinXP CD Writer software (roxio)
Date: 2/22/02

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

You are thinking of replacing a relatively secure filing system,
with a less stable one, simply to allow you to delete individual
files from a rewritable disc?

If one accepts the statement that UDF is insecure, (I assume that is
what is meant by "less stable") it would be absurd to use it.
Although I have seen many statements to the effect that data has been
lost on UDF disks I have not had that experience over the past 4 to 5
years. Most statement criticizing UDF are linked to long term data
storage. I don't use CD-RW media for long term storage only short
term therefore if it is true that data can be lost over time, that
does not bother me.

I have yet to see any proof that data written to UDF is any less
secure
than to any other magnetic or optical media either in short or long
term. Further, I am surprised that reputable manufacturers would
market
the CD-RW system if it could be shown it was inherently unreliable.
==============================