Mixed Mode CDRs - audio problem

Small dicked petty little thief

That's how mixed mode CDs work - the data is in track 1, which shows up as a
silent audio track on an audio CD player. CD Extra works better, that has
the data in a second session after the audio tracks, so an audio CD player
won't see it.

You don't need to use the 2-step method you mentioned in your other post,
you can just select CD Extra in the compilation options.

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"JasonW" wrote in message
news:Bpdrb.106534$275.306400@attbi_s53...
I was trying to create a mixed mode CDR with mostly data and a single
audio
track to let people know that it is a data CD and won't work in an audio
player. After creating the mixed mode disc, The data portion seems to work
fine, but the audio portion seems to have 2 audio tracks. The first audio
track has no sound and appears to run forever. The second track is what I
wanted as the first and only track. I'm using Nero 5.5.10.35

I didn't see any settings I could change to correct this. Can someone
suggest a way to accomplish what I'm trying to do?

-JasonW

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Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

First, you have not written Mixed Mode

Should that be a news to JasonW, who, after all, first burned
Mixed-Mode, and then burned Enhanced CD?

- that has data first, audio
later and is essentially useless. You made what is called "CD Extra" -
akin to but not the same as Enhanced CD.

(Is Mikey's CD-Extra single-session or two-session?)

Very cute, Mikey. "Akin" and "not the same" cover awful lot of
territory!

Trying slimily to weasel out your CD-Extra/Enhanced CD cockamamie?


There's plenty of information on this in the usual references: the CD-R
FAQ and the primer at my WWW site.

Your site sure do have plenty of information -- half-baked, that is:

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Mike Richter & Enhanced CD (Half-Baked Research)
================================================

==================================
From: Mike Richter (Lying Scum)
Subject: EZCD 5.02b Enhanced CD mode
Date: 8/28/01

There is no Enhanced CD Mode
- so, no, people have not used it.
==================================

Wonder what's this "Enhanced CD" doing here then?

http://www.roxio.com/en/support/roxi...n_history.html

... When creating an Enhanced CD ...
... while burning an Enhanced CD ...

The above Mikey's statement is the fruit of ITS so-called "research":

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum)
Subject: Mixed Modes - and similar
Date: 5/30/01

After doing the research, I have prepared a page on the combination
modes and posted it in the primer at my site. Though one expert has
reviewed it, I look forward to comments from anyone with experience.
======================

So much for the Mikey's so-called "research" and
so much for the so-called "expert" who reviewed it.

[ Any chance to reveal the identity of this so-called "expert?" ]

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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)


Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

First, you have not written Mixed Mode

Should that be a news to JasonW, who, after all, first burned
Mixed-Mode, and then burned Enhanced CD?

- that has data first, audio
later and is essentially useless. You made what is called "CD Extra" -
akin to but not the same as Enhanced CD.

(Is Mikey's CD-Extra single-session or two-session?)

Very cute, Mikey. "Akin" and "not the same" cover awful lot of
territory!

Trying slimily to weasel out your CD-Extra/Enhanced CD cockamamie?


There's plenty of information on this in the usual references: the CD-R
FAQ and the primer at my WWW site.

Your site sure do have plenty of information -- half-baked, that is:

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Mike Richter & CD Extra (Half-Baked Research)
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======================
From: "ned ludd"
Subject: Mike Richter & Enhanced CD
Date: 12/28/01

"Mike Richter" (Slimy Scum) wrote...

CD Extra is a defined format for a single session
with audio tracks followed by a data track

Care to share the source of this definition? All definitions I have so
far seen define CD Extra as two session, session 1 Red Book audio,
session 2 Yellow Book CD-ROM XA.
======================

The above Mikey's statement is the fruit of ITS so-called "research":

=====================
From: Mike Richter (Lying Scum)
Date: 5/30/01

After doing the research, I have prepared a page on the combination
modes and posted it in the primer at my site. Though one expert has
reviewed it, I look forward to comments from anyone with experience.
=====================

So much for the Mikey's so-called "research" and
so much for the so-called "expert" who reviewed it.

[ Any chance to reveal the identity of this so-called "expert"? ]

--------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

May I suggest a better alternate to this abusive *******:

;

You know the format...Please take One Minute and do it NOW everyone.

Tim K

"A" wrote in message
...
(GMAN) wrote in news:bomil6$jp$4
@terabinaries.xmission.com:

Small dicked petty little thief

Please note that many of us have succeeded in putting the "SMH"
psychotic
into our kill files. When someone replies to him, we can
inadvertently
uncover one of his posts. Your post showed up in my newsreader as a
reply
to mine, which was puzzling (I don't usually get called things this
nasty,
even by my wife), so I clicked on "find parent" and was treated to the
kind
of SMH insanity I had been happily living without.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do--I'm just citing one reason (and
there are many others) why ignoring this fellow might be a better
policy
than jousting with him.

"Robert Hancock" wrote in
news:BAErb.357089$pl3.222766@pd7tw3no:

That's how mixed mode CDs work - the data is in track 1, which shows
up as a silent audio track on an audio CD player. CD Extra works
better, that has the data in a second session after the audio tracks,
so an audio CD player won't see it.

I have some game CDs that have a "warning" message in track 1 to let people
know its not an audio disk, and to press stop. After that there are many
small audio tracks (background music) and one or more data tracks. Would
this be considered a CD Extra?

No, that's more like a mixed mode, though not the usual arrangement used. CD
Extra has no data tracks visible to an audio CD player (they are in a second
session which an audio CD player will not see at all).

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Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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"Theo" wrote in message
...
"Robert Hancock" wrote in
news:BAErb.357089$pl3.222766@pd7tw3no:

That's how mixed mode CDs work - the data is in track 1, which shows
up as a silent audio track on an audio CD player. CD Extra works
better, that has the data in a second session after the audio tracks,
so an audio CD player won't see it.

I have some game CDs that have a "warning" message in track 1 to let
people
know its not an audio disk, and to press stop. After that there are many
small audio tracks (background music) and one or more data tracks. Would
this be considered a CD Extra?

Thanks, I never even noticed that CD Extra was an option, or if I did then I
didn't realize what it was for.

-JasonW


"Robert Hancock" wrote in message
news:BAErb.357089$pl3.222766@pd7tw3no...
That's how mixed mode CDs work - the data is in track 1, which shows up as
a
silent audio track on an audio CD player. CD Extra works better, that has
the data in a second session after the audio tracks, so an audio CD player
won't see it.

You don't need to use the 2-step method you mentioned in your other post,
you can just select CD Extra in the compilation options.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


"JasonW" wrote in message
news:Bpdrb.106534$275.306400@attbi_s53...
I was trying to create a mixed mode CDR with mostly data and a single
audio
track to let people know that it is a data CD and won't work in an audio
player. After creating the mixed mode disc, The data portion seems to
work
fine, but the audio portion seems to have 2 audio tracks. The first
audio
track has no sound and appears to run forever. The second track is what
I
wanted as the first and only track. I'm using Nero 5.5.10.35

I didn't see any settings I could change to correct this. Can someone
suggest a way to accomplish what I'm trying to do?

-JasonW

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

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(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have examples of misquotes! )


Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

There's plenty of information on this in the usual references:
...the primer at my WWW site.

Your site sure do have plenty of something:

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Mike Richter is a LIAR (directcd/eject)(8a)
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From: Mike Richter (Lying Scum)
Subject: Lost data on CDs - is it the CD or Roxio's Easy CD Creator
Date: 3/27/02

Even when all the data have been written, the write is not complete.

For reasons discussed in the primer at my site,

the directory information is not written until the disc is ejected.
======================

In that case pressing the computer's RESET button will surely result in
a disaster, won't it, Mikey?

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From: DeepOne
Subject: CD-RW Disc broken on DirectCD
Date: 7/9/00

Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

When you load a fixed-length packet disc, the directory information
is read from the disc and translated in RAM. When you write to the
disc, the data are recorded immediately but the directory is updated
only in RAM. When you eject the disc or shut down Windows properly,
the directory information is transformed and written back to the disc.
Therefore, from the time you change something in the (RAM) directory
until that writeback, you can lose the directory if you have a
failure. That failure can be a power transient or a system lockup or
even forcing the disc to eject (in spite of the lock) using hardware.

I don't believe this is true with the latest versions of DirectCD (I'm
using 2.5d with Win98SE).

I've watched the disc write lights on my Plextor drives when ejecting a
DirectCD CD-RW disc, and the drive never does any writing at that time.

Once, in an attempt to prove this, I wrote a bunch of files to a
DirectCD CD-RW disc. As soon as the write pulses ceased,

I pressed the computer's RESET button.

After the computer restarted, the CD-RW disc was fine, and all the files
I had just written were fully accessible.
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)