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Problem I can't seem to solve
First I'll set the stage: I have 4 desktop computers kept in running order. #1 (my
main box) runs Win 8.1. #2 also runs 8.1. #3 is a backup for #1 and runs XP. #4 is a backup for #2 and runs XP. When I upgrade from time to time, it's always for #1. Stuff that's replaced there gets shunted to #2, #2's stuff to #3 and so on. Well, I ordered a new main board and CPU for #1 and decided to go ahead with #2 to #3 and #3 to #4 shifts. But I only got as far as #2 to #3. #2's Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L socket 775 board with a Pentium D 945 CPU was moved intact to case #3 after I deleted the video driver in #3. It replaced an ASUS P5P800-VM board with the identical Pentium D. Both boards have 2GB of DDR2 RAM. After I got all the connections made and booted up #3 with the Gigabyte board, everything went well until XP started to load. Then it stopped and the system rebooted. After several tries and it still rebooted when XP started to load, I double checked all the connections and BIOS settings. All OK. Then I decided there were probably some drivers that weren't compatible with the existing XP installation and the Gigabyte board, so decided to do a repair install of XP. That all started out normally, but then a BSOD popped up once all the Windows pre-installation files loaded. It complained about the possibility of added drives or drive adapters. There was a difference in that area since HDDs connected to the Gigabyte board in #2 were SATAs and HDDs in #3 are both IDE. But the Gigabyte's IDE port had been working perfectly in #2 since I had 2 IDE DVD drives connected to it. The Gigabyte manual even specifies the IDE connector supports HDDs. Just to be sure, though, I installed a working PCI IDE adapter card and plugged both HDDs into that. I also switched to a new IDE cable. But the results were the same. A DVD drive plugged into the adapter worked with no problem, but I still couldn't boot to XP or reach a point of being able to do a repair install. Yet I could access both HDDs and read their contents using a 3rd party boot disk. Even when I slipped in a clean IDE HDD, XP wouldn't install on it. Still the same BSOD. There was an initial problem with the system trying to boot as soon as I plugged it in, but that was apparently due to initially misconnected front panel elements since it was corrected once they were sorted out. There are similar 550W Antec PSUs in #2 and #3 with neither ever indicating any problem. When I installed the Gigabyte board back in #2 and the ASUS board back in #3, all worked perfectly. I've left out a lot of small things I did changing settings and switching plugs around. Any ideas? I can't help thinking there's probably something as obvious as an elephant in the room that I overlooked. I've been doing this too damn long to miss any of the small stuff. Larc |
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Problem I can't seem to solve
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:20:55 -0400, Larc
wrote: #2's Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L socket 775 board with a Pentium D 945 CPU was moved intact to case #3 after I deleted the video driver in #3. It replaced an ASUS P5P800-VM board with the identical Pentium D. Both boards have 2GB of DDR2 RAM. After I got all the connections made and booted up #3 with the Gigabyte board, everything went well until XP started to load. Then it stopped and the system rebooted. After several tries and it still rebooted when XP started to load, I double checked all the connections and BIOS settings. All OK. Then I decided there were probably some drivers that weren't compatible with the existing XP installation and the Gigabyte board, so decided to do a repair install of XP. That all started out normally, but then a BSOD popped up once all the Windows pre-installation files loaded. It complained about the possibility of added drives or drive adapters. There was a difference in that area since HDDs connected to the Gigabyte board in #2 were SATAs and HDDs in #3 are both IDE. But the Gigabyte's IDE port had been working perfectly in #2 since I had 2 IDE DVD drives connected to it. The Gigabyte manual even specifies the IDE connector supports HDDs. Just to be sure, though, I installed a working PCI IDE adapter card and plugged both HDDs into that. I also switched to a new IDE cable. But the results were the same. A DVD drive plugged into the adapter worked with no problem, but I still couldn't boot to XP or reach a point of being able to do a repair install. Yet I could access both HDDs and read their contents using a 3rd party boot disk. Even when I slipped in a clean IDE HDD, XP wouldn't install on it. Still the same BSOD. I'm running a 10- 15-yr-old original XP, shuffled through many, many similar MB updates. I do it with from a binary XP sector-to-sector image/backup. I also do it from a 4G primary partition, (dedicated to that image), with all [except] my drivers, basically anything I can get NOT to install physically into that XP partition - installed elsewhere (another logical partition). If there's a problem, I may have to take it all the way down to start with one HDD (and a DVD). Sounds like you may be on the trail...a BSOD is one of possibilities when encountering a new BIOS assignment (sometimes seeing a SATA/RAID controller w/out drivers). Try a MB P/IDE connector, if there is one. Turn the BIOS to defaults and double check, turning off all features. Whatever it takes to get XP working, then bringing them as appropriate back into play (w/drivers) one at a time. (When especially convoluted, once I get it working at that piont, I may run binary images between advancements, either to be sure I can get back and start again, double checking if something else is at work, in case the problem repeats itself on a piror image, one known to be working. I'm looking for a potential intermittant hardware problem/glitches and related event/accesses. Worst was an IBM laptop with IBM-embedded controller routines embedded in a 384K region below the first 1M of system memory. Using a 3rd party upper-memory controller a conflict would scramble the HDD, big time, requring IBM's 9-hour LLF routine for initializing the HDD into operable, ready conditioning. Probably was running the 3rd party memory manager with W98. Like a 486/33Mhz ThinkPad factory installed with W98, I eventually tried XP on -- too slow to be of much marginal use for even browsing. Back in the days of Tech Support. IBM's guy started freaking out when I called and explained what I was doing. Had to figure it out myself.) |
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