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"RobV" wrote in message ...
Peter van der Goes wrote:
"Peter van der Goes" wrote in message
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I'm currently using an Asus P5B Plus with an older Conroe running at
2.13 GHz. 4 Gig DDR2-800 memory.
The P5B uses the Intel P965 chipset and claims to support
1066/800/533 system bus speeds.
I now see all sorts of Core 2 Duo and Quad offerings, but I'm pretty
sure my older motherboard poses some limitations.

Which of the newer CPU's will work in the P5B and which are to be
avoided?

First, thanks very much for the info, guys.
Now the follow-up. Looking at the Asus web site, I see there is a P5B
Plus and a P5B Plus Vista Edition, and that the BIOS updates for the
Vista Edition seem to parallel those for the plain P5B Plus, *but*
stop at 1002, while those for the plain P5B Plus go on (1102, 1103).
I've looked at my box, and although there is a sticker saying the
board is Vista-ready, nothing says Vista Edition. Any ideas on how to
tell the difference, or if it really matters?

I didn't know there WAS a Vista edition. If so, I can't imagine what the
difference would be. Mine is a P5B Plus; the box has a sticker on it that
says it has "Vista Support" and another sticker that says "Effort Free FSB
1333 supporting future processors", as well as a number of other things.

The box is black and has P5B-Plus in large letters on it and the sticker
with the S/N and other info on it has a part number of: 90-MBB5W5-G0AAY00Z
and it says it's a P5B-PLUS GREEN

I don't know if that helps or not.


Thanks! It helps a lot. Your box description is the same as mine, so I tried
the 1100 series BIOS and they work.

Peter van der Goes wrote:
"RobV" wrote in message
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Peter van der Goes wrote:
"Peter van der Goes" wrote in message
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I'm currently using an Asus P5B Plus with an older Conroe running
at 2.13 GHz. 4 Gig DDR2-800 memory.
The P5B uses the Intel P965 chipset and claims to support
1066/800/533 system bus speeds.
I now see all sorts of Core 2 Duo and Quad offerings, but I'm
pretty sure my older motherboard poses some limitations.

Which of the newer CPU's will work in the P5B and which are to be
avoided?

First, thanks very much for the info, guys.
Now the follow-up. Looking at the Asus web site, I see there is a
P5B Plus and a P5B Plus Vista Edition, and that the BIOS updates
for the Vista Edition seem to parallel those for the plain P5B
Plus, *but* stop at 1002, while those for the plain P5B Plus go on
(1102, 1103). I've looked at my box, and although there is a
sticker saying the board is Vista-ready, nothing says Vista
Edition. Any ideas on how to tell the difference, or if it really
matters?

I didn't know there WAS a Vista edition. If so, I can't imagine
what the difference would be. Mine is a P5B Plus; the box has a
sticker on it that says it has "Vista Support" and another sticker
that says "Effort Free FSB 1333 supporting future processors", as
well as a number of other things. The box is black and has P5B-Plus
in large letters on it and the
sticker with the S/N and other info on it has a part number of:
90-MBB5W5-G0AAY00Z and it says it's a P5B-PLUS GREEN

I don't know if that helps or not.


Thanks! It helps a lot. Your box description is the same as mine, so
I tried the 1100 series BIOS and they work.

Excellent! Glad it helped. Thanks for the update.

"RobV" wrote in message ...

Excellent! Glad it helped. Thanks for the update.


To close things out...
Got an 8400 and it is working fine at stock 3.0 GHz with the 1103 BIOS. I
guess it's time to start the overclocking adventure :-)

Peter van der Goes wrote:
"RobV" wrote in message
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Excellent! Glad it helped. Thanks for the update.


To close things out...
Got an 8400 and it is working fine at stock 3.0 GHz with the 1103
BIOS. I guess it's time to start the overclocking adventure :-)

Thanks for that, Peter. You should be able to get close to, if not well
over, 4GHz with the 8400. I hope you have a good heatsink so you can
really push it. Good luck with it!

"RobV" wrote in message ...
Peter van der Goes wrote:
"RobV" wrote in message
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Excellent! Glad it helped. Thanks for the update.


To close things out...
Got an 8400 and it is working fine at stock 3.0 GHz with the 1103
BIOS. I guess it's time to start the overclocking adventure :-)

Thanks for that, Peter. You should be able to get close to, if not well
over, 4GHz with the 8400. I hope you have a good heatsink so you can
really push it. Good luck with it!


Thank you, Rob! You got me going. Thanks to you and the other helpful guys,
these groups are a great place to get good advice.

Somewhere on teh intarweb "Peter van der Goes" typed:
"RobV" wrote in message
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Peter van der Goes wrote:
"RobV" wrote in message
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Excellent! Glad it helped. Thanks for the update.


To close things out...
Got an 8400 and it is working fine at stock 3.0 GHz with the 1103
BIOS. I guess it's time to start the overclocking adventure :-)

Thanks for that, Peter. You should be able to get close to, if not
well over, 4GHz with the 8400. I hope you have a good heatsink so
you can really push it. Good luck with it!


Thank you, Rob! You got me going. Thanks to you and the other helpful
guys, these groups are a great place to get good advice.

Hi Peter,

A couple of things, don't expect to get "4GHz if not well over". If you do
then that's bloody great! I know of a few folks who got 4GHz with their 45nm
C2D. I know of a lot more who found that their CPUs topped out at around
3.6GHz stable, at sane voltages. Even that's not guaranteed.

The other thing is that, with these 45nm High-k hafnium-gate CPUs, it's not
so much like the old days when the OC was decided how low you could keep
your CPU's temperature. The deciding factor is rarely temperature, unless
you're record-breaking and are pushing your CPU into realms where it could
fail in weeks rather than decades. IOW there's no need to spend hundreds on
cooling. A good cooler will suffice. My 45nm CPU runs 25°C cooler than my
65nm CPU did under 100% load so there's plenty of headroom yet it won't go
past ~3.6GHz with the vcore set at or below 1.4V.

Of course, the makers of CPU coolers don't want you to know that and for
quad core CPUs a very efficient cooler is more essential.

So..... Good luck with your OC'ing, do let us know how it goes.

Cheers,
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Shaun.

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The P5B uses the Intel P965 chipset and claims to support 1066/800/533
system bus speeds.
I now see all sorts of Core 2 Duo and Quad offerings, but I'm pretty sure my
older motherboard poses some limitations.

Which of the newer CPU's will work in the P5B and which are to be avoided?