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ASUS A8N-SLI Premium or the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe???
What is the big difference between the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium and the
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe mobos? I have looked at several of the comparisons on Newegg and the Asus site, but don't see why the A8N32-SLI Deluxe is the more expensive board. Can someone just point me in the right direction? What have I missed? I had initially thought the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe as going to be the mobo for my new system. After reading several nightmare stories in the Asus Forums, I now question if the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe is the best selection for my new system. My hardware consists of the following: - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Processor Socket 939 - Corsair VS1GB400C3 1GB DDR400 PC3200 CAS3 Value Select Memory - eVGA e-GeForce 7800 GT PCI Express 256MB DDR3 Video Card w/HDTV, Dual DVI & VIVO - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB Serial ATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer - Plextor PX-716SA 16X Internal Serial ATA Dual Layer DVD±R/RW CD-R/RW Drive - Viewsonic VX924 19in LCD Monitor - Antec Performance TX TX1050B SOHO Mid Tower case (Black) Any thoughts on this configuration and should I stick with the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium? The memory listed is on-sale at ZipZoomFly for $79.99 for a 1GB stick. It seems rather cheap, maybe I should get better memory? Any help would be appreciated. Scott |
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ASUS A8N-SLI Premium or the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe???
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wonderful person Scott Souva said What is the big difference between the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium and the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe mobos? I have looked at several of the comparisons on Newegg and the Asus site, but don't see why the A8N32-SLI Deluxe is the more expensive board. Can someone just point me in the right direction? What have I missed? The a8N32 has 8 phase power generation, and is configured (unsing a different nForce4 chip) so it can run both the two graphics slots at 16x speed at the same time (the premium will revert to 8x on each slot if you run two). Since current graphics cards can't get close to needing that much bandwidth I guess the 8 phase power (more eco friendly, allegedly better overclocking) is probably all you need to think about. There do seem to be more horror stories around about the A8N32, plus it is more expensive , and has been hard to get hold of. You pick! -- GSV Three Minds in a Can Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint. |
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ASUS A8N-SLI Premium or the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe???
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:27:35 GMT, kda wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:53:14 GMT, Scott Souva wrote: What is the big difference between the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium and the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe mobos? I have looked at several of the comparisons on Newegg and the Asus site, but don't see why the A8N32-SLI Deluxe is the more expensive board. Can someone just point me in the right direction? What have I missed? I had initially thought the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe as going to be the mobo for my new system. After reading several nightmare stories in the Asus Forums, I now question if the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe is the best selection for my new system. My hardware consists of the following: - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Processor Socket 939 - Corsair VS1GB400C3 1GB DDR400 PC3200 CAS3 Value Select Memory - eVGA e-GeForce 7800 GT PCI Express 256MB DDR3 Video Card w/HDTV, Dual DVI & VIVO - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB Serial ATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer - Plextor PX-716SA 16X Internal Serial ATA Dual Layer DVD±R/RW CD-R/RW Drive - Viewsonic VX924 19in LCD Monitor - Antec Performance TX TX1050B SOHO Mid Tower case (Black) Any thoughts on this configuration and should I stick with the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium? The memory listed is on-sale at ZipZoomFly for $79.99 for a 1GB stick. It seems rather cheap, maybe I should get better memory? Any help would be appreciated. Scott Hmmm .... what nightmare reports? I have the A8N32SLI Dlx and the previous poster is correct. It supports two video cards running as one and each has an 16x pipeline (2 x 16 = 32) compared to 8x pipeline on previous boards. Of real interest to me was just how many reviewers of all sorts of PC peripherals pick the A8N32SLI Dlx as the test platform. Want to compare an AMD X2 CPU against Intel? All the big name reviewers run the CPU comparisons on the A8N32SLI MB. Want to test the new Western Digital Raptor HD (150 MB) ... just go see how many load it onto a test bed using the A8N32SLI Dlx MB. I figured that if this MB is the choice of the "big boys" doing these endless test reviews on all sorts of equipment, then it must be at least OK ... maybe even great. :-) Love mine. No nightmares ... just daily amazement at how well this thing works with all the goodies running. Twin nVidia top end GTX video cards, the new WD Raptor 150 MB 10K HD, 2 GB of Corsair 433 MHz memory, a couple of CDRW / DVD +-R writers, SB Audigy, an external FireWire HD, an internal IDE HD, Flash Card Readers, color printer, scanner ... you name it and I probably have it hooked up. All run perfectly ... I've never had a setup this solid and reliable. Oh, and Cool n Quiet and QFan was a absolute breeze to set up and configure ... works miracles with the AMD FX 60 Dual Core CPU. Just think about it. If your living involved choosing a test bed for computer equipment that was reliable enough to run comparison tests on just about any hardware you can throw at it (to get comparable test you need a consistent test bed) ... and if the unanimous choice of test beds was the A8N32SLI Dlx ... there is a message in there somewhere. Remember, most folks posting to these Usenet boards are doing so because they have a problem (either real or caused by the operator), not because they are happy with their system. So you hear a few complaints, usually ascribed to the wrong cause. Some folks, when they work out their problem, have the character to come back and tell us what the problem really was, but most just disappear into the darkness leaving us with that first faulty impression first came into the original poster's mind and thus got repeated as fact here. You can learn here, but have to consider what you are hearing pretty carefully along with the source. The A8N32SLI Deluxe is a MB to die for. I've owned and built with ASUS for years and I've been generally happy ... but nothing ASUS has done before can approach this MB when it is running the new generation of AMD X2 processors and connecting it to a lot of peripherals. With this MB, you can finally assemble a "dream machine". Agreed. I have the A8N32-SLI. Works like a champ. Overclocking X2 4400+ to 2.6Ghz (FSB 238MHz) , no problem and 2 GBytes Corsair XMS2048-3500 @ 2.5-3-2-6-1T/ 238MHz. Prime 95 totally stable. With a Zalman CNPS9500, CPU temp max. peak is 50 degrees C, very worst case, both cores fully loaded. The airflow through this wonderful CPU cooler in conjunction with a slow-speed case fan is perfectly directed to keep both the RAM and the heat-pipe dissipator cool as well. The 8-phase regulation has a significant unstated advantage. The 8 regulators are distributed over a wide area with the result of no significant hot-spots due to switcher dissipation anywhere near the CPU, thus keeping the local ambient low. So, what problems are people having with the A8N32-SLI? Maybe I can help ? John Lewis |
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John,
I noticed your memory specs. By chance are you running 3500LLPRO memory? If so, Corsair advises SDRAM CAS Latency: 2.0T SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 3T SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 2T SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 6T SDRAM Bank Interleave: 4 Bank SDRAM VDIMM: 2.75 Command Rate 1T Agreed. I have the A8N32-SLI. Works like a champ. Overclocking X2 4400+ to 2.6Ghz (FSB 238MHz) , no problem and 2 GBytes Corsair XMS2048-3500 @ 2.5-3-2-6-1T/ 238MHz. Prime 95 totally stable. With a Zalman CNPS9500, CPU temp max. peak is 50 degrees C, very worst case, both cores fully loaded. The airflow through this wonderful CPU cooler in conjunction with a slow-speed case fan is perfectly directed to keep both the RAM and the heat-pipe dissipator cool as well. The 8-phase regulation has a significant unstated advantage. The 8 regulators are distributed over a wide area with the result of no significant hot-spots due to switcher dissipation anywhere near the CPU, thus keeping the local ambient low. So, what problems are people having with the A8N32-SLI? Maybe I can help ? John Lewis |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:05:16 -0800, "Bob Doran"
wrote: John, I noticed your memory specs. By chance are you running 3500LLPRO memory? Yes, indeed. If so, Corsair advises SDRAM CAS Latency: 2.0T SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 3T SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 2T SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 6T SDRAM Bank Interleave: 4 Bank SDRAM VDIMM: 2.75 Command Rate 1T Thanks. Requires CL=2.5T @ 238MHz at least for my pair. With CL=2, Prime95 and memtest86 have occasional failures. All other memory settings already exactly as per the above list. The 3500LLPro is spec'd 2-3-2-6 only up to 217MHz. My system is stable with zero errors@ 238MHz FSB on 24-hours runs of 4 simultaneous instances of Prime95 - two pairs of test 2 (max CPU), test 3 (max memory ) each pair targeted at each X2 core. These four tests simultaneously run also totally involve all available main-memory. Torture-test in spades. This type and duration of test is mandatory on any overclocked system. Otherwise the user can only look forward to erratic system crashes, general flakiness and loss of important data. John Lewis |
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Yeah, good point on the FSB speed.
"John Lewis" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:05:16 -0800, "Bob Doran" wrote: John, I noticed your memory specs. By chance are you running 3500LLPRO memory? Yes, indeed. If so, Corsair advises SDRAM CAS Latency: 2.0T SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 3T SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 2T SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 6T SDRAM Bank Interleave: 4 Bank SDRAM VDIMM: 2.75 Command Rate 1T Thanks. Requires CL=2.5T @ 238MHz at least for my pair. With CL=2, Prime95 and memtest86 have occasional failures. All other memory settings already exactly as per the above list. The 3500LLPro is spec'd 2-3-2-6 only up to 217MHz. My system is stable with zero errors@ 238MHz FSB on 24-hours runs of 4 simultaneous instances of Prime95 - two pairs of test 2 (max CPU), test 3 (max memory ) each pair targeted at each X2 core. These four tests simultaneously run also totally involve all available main-memory. Torture-test in spades. This type and duration of test is mandatory on any overclocked system. Otherwise the user can only look forward to erratic system crashes, general flakiness and loss of important data. John Lewis |
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I have both the A8N-SLI Premium and the A8N32-SLI.
Here are my problems with the A8N32: With 2 7800 GTX ( or any single slot video cards) installed there is no place to put a sound card that isn't on top or bottom of one of the graphics cards. The video cards run much hotter because of this. My evga 7800 GTX KOs run so hot I get really bad video artifacting after a while. I anticipate similar problems when the Aegia PhysX cards come out. I have additional 120mm case fans blowing on the video cards and they still get too hot. Also the cards are much "deeper" in an ATX case which also causes heat problems. All of the new overclocking options are nice but I can still get better overclocks with my A8N Premium. Why is there no voice post on the A8N32-SLI? I know 2X16 PCIe is nice but overall I prefer the A8N-SLI premium. |
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wrote in message oups.com... I have both the A8N-SLI Premium and the A8N32-SLI. Here are my problems with the A8N32: With 2 7800 GTX ( or any single slot video cards) installed there is no place to put a sound card that isn't on top or bottom of one of the graphics cards. The video cards run much hotter because of this. My evga 7800 GTX KOs run so hot I get really bad video artifacting after a while. I anticipate similar problems when the Aegia PhysX cards come out. I have additional 120mm case fans blowing on the video cards and they still get too hot. Also the cards are much "deeper" in an ATX case which also causes heat problems. All of the new overclocking options are nice but I can still get better overclocks with my A8N Premium. Why is there no voice post on the A8N32-SLI? I know 2X16 PCIe is nice but overall I prefer the A8N-SLI premium. I just made some comments to your post about mounting a Zalman cooler (good post) and then read this. We have similar systems and I have a tall tower case that I'm reusing for this build. Fought this battle before about using full-sized tower cases (ATX) and not being able to move air efficiently inside the case. In addition two the push-pull fans on the PSU (Antec TP-II 550W) with one of those fans just above the Zalman cooler, I have also mounted a lower front case fan (Antec 8cm, 53cfm @5000rpm, 39dba) and two more at the top rear of the case. Both sides of the case on the bottom are vented. The airflow swirls at the bottom and then chimneys on up the case passing the hard drives and the Zalman cooler and being exhausted by the PSU and the two 8cm case fans in the top rear of the case. I also used round cables so as not to restrict airflow. Routed all power cables to minimize air obstruction in the chiney area between the hard drives and PSU. Having a fan blowing on the video card may be a good idea but if it's only blowing warm air around - you won't get much cooling effect even if that 120mm fan is mounted on the side panel and blowing fresh air directly on the card. Think of blowing into a soda bottle - if you don't have a good exhaust path - you aren't moving air. A good test to try is to take off the one side of the case and tape a piece of clear plastic in-place of the cover. This will allow you to see the airflow. Borrow a ciagaret and light it. Place it near the front air intake and now watch the smoke pattern and how it moves through the case - or not. Once you can see the bottleneck problem then you have a better chance at fixing it. You may want to think about going with a BTX type case which provides better airflow, etc. Bob S. |
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