HP Cartridges

Can HP cartridges # 57 & 58 be refilled.

"Andy Petro" wrote:
Can HP cartridges # 57 & 58 be refilled.

Andy

Yes they can.

Try http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/index.php and if you can't find an
appropriate thread then ask the question on the forum.

For what it's worth, these cartridges can usually only be refilled successfully
a small number of times

Tony

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:40:36 -0000, Tony wrote:

"Andy Petro" wrote:
Can HP cartridges # 57 & 58 be refilled.

Andy

Yes they can.

Try http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/index.php and if you can't find an
appropriate thread then ask the question on the forum.

For what it's worth, these cartridges can usually only be refilled successfully
a small number of times

Tony
I have put ink in a 57 over 15 times. Admittedly I don't try too hard
to completely refill it each time. I find it easier to put ink in each
time it goes thru 1/3 of the ink on the level indicator. I then have
to cycle 2 other cartridges thru the printer to reset the ink
indicator, when the level is showing empty.

DT

D.T wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:40:36 -0000, Tony wrote:

"Andy Petro" wrote:
Can HP cartridges # 57 & 58 be refilled.

Andy

Yes they can.

Try http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/index.php and if you can't find an
appropriate thread then ask the question on the forum.

For what it's worth, these cartridges can usually only be refilled
successfully
a small number of times

Tony
I have put ink in a 57 over 15 times. Admittedly I don't try too hard
to completely refill it each time. I find it easier to put ink in each
time it goes thru 1/3 of the ink on the level indicator. I then have
to cycle 2 other cartridges thru the printer to reset the ink
indicator, when the level is showing empty.

DT

Part filling is probably one of the reasons you have been able to fill it so
many times. Overfilling is definitely a cause of issues.
However there is a degree of luck involved as well, the printhead is designed
for a finite number of *shots* of ink and at some stage it will fail, I doubt
if the design criteria is for 15 times the normal usage....but if it works,
then great.
Tony

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:27:35 -0000, Tony wrote:

Part filling is probably one of the reasons you have been able to fill it so
many times. Overfilling is definitely a cause of issues.
However there is a degree of luck involved as well, the printhead is designed
for a finite number of *shots* of ink and at some stage it will fail, I doubt
if the design criteria is for 15 times the normal usage....but if it works,
then great.

But partial filling 15 times could be about the same as full filling
about 8 times in term of total ink by volume.

So partial filling may seems to last longer when in fact it's just a
mattrer of when the head burns out.
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:48:02 -0400, Impmon wrote:

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:27:35 -0000, Tony wrote:

Part filling is probably one of the reasons you have been able to fill it so
many times. Overfilling is definitely a cause of issues.
However there is a degree of luck involved as well, the printhead is designed
for a finite number of *shots* of ink and at some stage it will fail, I doubt
if the design criteria is for 15 times the normal usage....but if it works,
then great.

But partial filling 15 times could be about the same as full filling
about 8 times in term of total ink by volume.

So partial filling may seems to last longer when in fact it's just a
mattrer of when the head burns out.

This is true. I have had cartridges fail after 1 refill, but I take
care to not let the cartridge run out and not try to put the last ml
of ink in.

DT

I also got about 15 refills out of a 57, nearly chucked it out though a
couple of times at about the 4 or 5 refill stage due to jets not firing but
persevered and got them working again (hot water + blowing through the fill
holes once when it was really bad). Changed my refill method after the
problems, letting the cartridge 'rest' for several hours before printing
much or running a cleaning cycle, no more non-firing jets after a fill.
What went wrong eventually was the colour accuracy, darker greys gradually
took on a green caste probably at around 13 refills but I didn't realise at
first until it got worse. I guess it's due to worn jets. A greyscale print
is a good test for these cartridges. 58 still going strong though after 2.5
years and about 16 refills. I always refill when the HP ink monitor is down
to about 10% on the scale and get about 3ml in each chamber till it's full
then remove about 0.5ml.

I was given an old 57 so had 3 cartridges to try the simple 3 cart swap
trick to get 100% ink status. No luck though, 2 of them had the same serial
number! I'm still taping contacts, tedious or what? I have recently bought
some 57 ink by InkTec which seems good so far on the 1st refill (better
greys than HP ink) and includes a tool for sucking a little ink (1ml)
rapidly through the head after a fill which is supposed to clean the jets.
I used it as suggested and all was OK even if a little clumsy to actually
do. Perhaps it's a good idea, time will tell.

"SteveB" sbrads@nildramDOTcoDOTuk wrote:
I also got about 15 refills out of a 57, nearly chucked it out though a
couple of times at about the 4 or 5 refill stage due to jets not firing but
persevered and got them working again (hot water + blowing through the fill
holes once when it was really bad). Changed my refill method after the
problems, letting the cartridge 'rest' for several hours before printing
much or running a cleaning cycle, no more non-firing jets after a fill.
What went wrong eventually was the colour accuracy, darker greys gradually
took on a green caste probably at around 13 refills but I didn't realise at
first until it got worse. I guess it's due to worn jets. A greyscale print
is a good test for these cartridges. 58 still going strong though after 2.5
years and about 16 refills. I always refill when the HP ink monitor is down
to about 10% on the scale and get about 3ml in each chamber till it's full
then remove about 0.5ml.

I was given an old 57 so had 3 cartridges to try the simple 3 cart swap
trick to get 100% ink status. No luck though, 2 of them had the same serial
number! I'm still taping contacts, tedious or what? I have recently bought
some 57 ink by InkTec which seems good so far on the 1st refill (better
greys than HP ink) and includes a tool for sucking a little ink (1ml)
rapidly through the head after a fill which is supposed to clean the jets.
I used it as suggested and all was OK even if a little clumsy to actually
do. Perhaps it's a good idea, time will tell.

Applying a little suction does help, too much kills the cartridge.
But overall, good value if you refill eh?
Tony