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  #11  
Old August 26th 04, 05:18 AM
iTsMeMa
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Think I'll side with Wes' thoughts here. Another money grab. My XP2400 is
very happy at 11 X 200

Notice the FSB

Garry


"Daniel P" wrote in message
news:6TcXc.149693$Oi.130808@fed1read04...
Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB

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"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.01.10.13.55407@TAKEOUTverizon. net...
Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They
are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then
higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107)

only
runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why
shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed.
The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz

FSB.

XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz
Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz.

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to
be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on

it
and doubling the price. Buyer beware.

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  #12  
Old August 26th 04, 08:39 AM
Wes Newell
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote:

Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-)
The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without
a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all
devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu.
Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap.

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB


Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of
133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-)

See The Real Front Side Bus in link below.

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http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
  #13  
Old August 26th 04, 08:39 AM
Wes Newell
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote:

Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-)
The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without
a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all
devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu.
Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap.

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB


Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of
133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-)

See The Real Front Side Bus in link below.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
  #14  
Old August 26th 04, 05:27 PM
Lukasz Ledochowski
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Wes Newell wrote:

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd
to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name
Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware.


That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price.
Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap
processor.

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  #15  
Old August 26th 04, 05:27 PM
Lukasz Ledochowski
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Wes Newell wrote:

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd
to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name
Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware.


That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price.
Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap
processor.

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  #16  
Old August 26th 04, 06:13 PM
Wes Newell
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:37 +0000, Lukasz Ledochowski wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd
to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name
Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware.


That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price.
Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap
processor.


The cheapest Sempron I could find was a 2400+ for $60. That's the same as
a 2000+ XP, which sells for $48. But it's your money.:-)

AMD has discontinued the XP's except for the XP 2800+ and faster Barton
cores. Changed the name of the lower model Tbred XP's and raised the
model (PR) numbers by a `400 and raised the price to match. What is it
about this that you don't understand? Do some research.

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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
  #17  
Old August 26th 04, 06:13 PM
Wes Newell
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:37 +0000, Lukasz Ledochowski wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd
to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name
Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware.


That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price.
Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap
processor.


The cheapest Sempron I could find was a 2400+ for $60. That's the same as
a 2000+ XP, which sells for $48. But it's your money.:-)

AMD has discontinued the XP's except for the XP 2800+ and faster Barton
cores. Changed the name of the lower model Tbred XP's and raised the
model (PR) numbers by a `400 and raised the price to match. What is it
about this that you don't understand? Do some research.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
  #18  
Old August 26th 04, 06:37 PM
Lukasz Ledochowski
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Wes Newell wrote:

match. What is it about this that you don't understand? Do some
research.


I've done some research and I found Sempron 2300+ (1583MHz,
FSB166(333)) cheaper than XP 2000+ (1666, 133(266)). These are
comparable processors and I can't say that this model is to expensive.

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  #19  
Old August 26th 04, 06:37 PM
Lukasz Ledochowski
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Wes Newell wrote:

match. What is it about this that you don't understand? Do some
research.


I've done some research and I found Sempron 2300+ (1583MHz,
FSB166(333)) cheaper than XP 2000+ (1666, 133(266)). These are
comparable processors and I can't say that this model is to expensive.

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  #20  
Old August 26th 04, 07:56 PM
Bob M
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Wes Newell wrote:

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote:

Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-)
The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without
a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all
devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu.
Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap.

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB


Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of
133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-)

See The Real Front Side Bus in link below.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm


This still won't sway me to buy Intel next time. But I will make sure I
do my research on the AMD chips before I do upgrade again. Thanks for
the info.

Bob
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