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Think I'll side with Wes' thoughts here. Another money grab. My XP2400 is
very happy at 11 X 200 Notice the FSB Garry "Daniel P" wrote in message news:6TcXc.149693$Oi.130808@fed1read04... Model: AMD Sempron 2800+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Notice the FSB Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2GHz FSB: 266MHz Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Again Notice the FSB -- "Duct tape is a lot like the Force. It has a Dark side, a Light side, and it holds all the pieces of the Universe togethe "Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2004.08.26.01.10.13.55407@TAKEOUTverizon. net... Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107) only runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed. The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz FSB. XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz. Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote:
Model: AMD Sempron 2800+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Notice the FSB I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-) The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu. Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap. Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2GHz FSB: 266MHz Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Again Notice the FSB Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of 133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-) See The Real Front Side Bus in link below. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote:
Model: AMD Sempron 2800+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Notice the FSB I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-) The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu. Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap. Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2GHz FSB: 266MHz Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Again Notice the FSB Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of 133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-) See The Real Front Side Bus in link below. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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Wes Newell wrote:
Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware. That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price. Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap processor. -- # Lukasz Ledochowski # GG:503647 # |
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Wes Newell wrote:
Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware. That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price. Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap processor. -- # Lukasz Ledochowski # GG:503647 # |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:37 +0000, Lukasz Ledochowski wrote:
Wes Newell wrote: Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware. That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price. Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap processor. The cheapest Sempron I could find was a 2400+ for $60. That's the same as a 2000+ XP, which sells for $48. But it's your money.:-) AMD has discontinued the XP's except for the XP 2800+ and faster Barton cores. Changed the name of the lower model Tbred XP's and raised the model (PR) numbers by a `400 and raised the price to match. What is it about this that you don't understand? Do some research. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:37 +0000, Lukasz Ledochowski wrote:
Wes Newell wrote: Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it and doubling the price. Buyer beware. That doesn't mean that whole Sempron series is not worth its price. Sempron 2300+ with its price lower than XP 2000+ is pretty cheap processor. The cheapest Sempron I could find was a 2400+ for $60. That's the same as a 2000+ XP, which sells for $48. But it's your money.:-) AMD has discontinued the XP's except for the XP 2800+ and faster Barton cores. Changed the name of the lower model Tbred XP's and raised the model (PR) numbers by a `400 and raised the price to match. What is it about this that you don't understand? Do some research. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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Wes Newell wrote:
match. What is it about this that you don't understand? Do some research. I've done some research and I found Sempron 2300+ (1583MHz, FSB166(333)) cheaper than XP 2000+ (1666, 133(266)). These are comparable processors and I can't say that this model is to expensive. -- # Lukasz Ledochowski # GG:503647 # |
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Wes Newell wrote:
match. What is it about this that you don't understand? Do some research. I've done some research and I found Sempron 2300+ (1583MHz, FSB166(333)) cheaper than XP 2000+ (1666, 133(266)). These are comparable processors and I can't say that this model is to expensive. -- # Lukasz Ledochowski # GG:503647 # |
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Wes Newell wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:34:27 -0700, Daniel P wrote: Model: AMD Sempron 2800+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz FSB: Integrated into Chip Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Notice the FSB I notice it's giving you BS. What else do you want me to notice? :-) The FSB is integrated into all Socket A cpu's. The cpu won't work without a FSB. That's how it talks to the MB chipset and gets it data from all devices. Still, the FSB speed is controlled by by the MB, not the cpu. Integrated into cpu is just meaningless crap. Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Co Thoroughbred Operating Frequency: 2GHz FSB: 266MHz Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K Voltage: 1.65V Process: 0.13Micron Socket: Socket A Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+ Again Notice the FSB Yep. i notice it's giving you data rates instead of the real FSB speed of 133MHz. Any other BS you want me to notice?:-) See The Real Front Side Bus in link below. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm This still won't sway me to buy Intel next time. But I will make sure I do my research on the AMD chips before I do upgrade again. Thanks for the info. Bob -- Takeoff is an option. Landing is a must! And in the end on wheels we will depend. |
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