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Old August 26th 04, 02:10 AM
Wes Newell
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Default Sempron warning

Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They
are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then
higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107) only
runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why
shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed.
The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz FSB.

XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz
Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz.

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to
be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it
and doubling the price. Buyer beware.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
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Old August 26th 04, 02:22 AM
crucom
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Wes Newell wrote:
Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They
are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then
higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107) only
runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why
shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed.
The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz FSB.

XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz
Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz.

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to
be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it
and doubling the price. Buyer beware.

what is with the bus speeds? AMD Sempron™ 3100+ @ 1800Mhz FSB (Socket A)
256k" cache is half the size but 1800?
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Old August 26th 04, 02:22 AM
crucom
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Wes Newell wrote:
Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They
are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then
higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107) only
runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why
shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed.
The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz FSB.

XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz
Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz.

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to
be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it
and doubling the price. Buyer beware.

what is with the bus speeds? AMD Sempron™ 3100+ @ 1800Mhz FSB (Socket A)
256k" cache is half the size but 1800?
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Old August 26th 04, 02:42 AM
Wes Newell
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:22:56 -0400, crucom wrote:

what is with the bus speeds? AMD Sempron 3100+ @ 1800Mhz FSB (Socket A)
256k" cache is half the size but 1800?


The Sempron 3100+ is a socket 754 CPU. It won't work in socket A. If
you're talking about the pricewatch ad, it's just a screwup.Note 754pin
beside socket A.:-)

And the Sempron for 754 is the same. if you want to reasonably vompare it
to an Athlon 64 754 CPU, subtract 400 from the model number of the
Sempron. IOW's the Athlon 64 2800+ is faster the the Sempron 3100+ for the
same board.

AMDs' acronym for Sempron= Screw Everyone Purchasers Rely On Numbers.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
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Old August 26th 04, 02:42 AM
Wes Newell
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:22:56 -0400, crucom wrote:

what is with the bus speeds? AMD Sempron 3100+ @ 1800Mhz FSB (Socket A)
256k" cache is half the size but 1800?


The Sempron 3100+ is a socket 754 CPU. It won't work in socket A. If
you're talking about the pricewatch ad, it's just a screwup.Note 754pin
beside socket A.:-)

And the Sempron for 754 is the same. if you want to reasonably vompare it
to an Athlon 64 754 CPU, subtract 400 from the model number of the
Sempron. IOW's the Athlon 64 2800+ is faster the the Sempron 3100+ for the
same board.

AMDs' acronym for Sempron= Screw Everyone Purchasers Rely On Numbers.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
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Old August 26th 04, 02:43 AM
Wes Newell
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:42:28 +0000, Wes Newell wrote:

AMDs' acronym for Sempron= Screw Everyone Purchasers Rely On Numbers.


That Should have read, Screw Everyone Most Purchasers Rely On Numbers.

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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
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Old August 26th 04, 02:43 AM
Wes Newell
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:42:28 +0000, Wes Newell wrote:

AMDs' acronym for Sempron= Screw Everyone Purchasers Rely On Numbers.


That Should have read, Screw Everyone Most Purchasers Rely On Numbers.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
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Old August 26th 04, 04:34 AM
Daniel P
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Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB

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holds all the pieces of the Universe togethe
"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.01.10.13.55407@TAKEOUTverizon. net...
Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They
are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then
higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107) only
runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why
shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed.
The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz FSB.

XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz
Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz.

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to
be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it
and doubling the price. Buyer beware.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm



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Old August 26th 04, 04:34 AM
Daniel P
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Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB

--
"Duct tape is a lot like the Force. It has a Dark side, a Light side, and it
holds all the pieces of the Universe togethe
"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.01.10.13.55407@TAKEOUTverizon. net...
Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They
are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then
higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107) only
runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why
shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed.
The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz FSB.

XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz
Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz.

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to
be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on it
and doubling the price. Buyer beware.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm



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Old August 26th 04, 05:18 AM
iTsMeMa
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Think I'll side with Wes' thoughts here. Another money grab. My XP2400 is
very happy at 11 X 200

Notice the FSB

Garry


"Daniel P" wrote in message
news:6TcXc.149693$Oi.130808@fed1read04...
Model: AMD Sempron 2800+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 256KB
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Notice the FSB

Model: AMD Athlon XP 2400+
Co Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+

Again Notice the FSB

--
"Duct tape is a lot like the Force. It has a Dark side, a Light side, and

it
holds all the pieces of the Universe togethe
"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.08.26.01.10.13.55407@TAKEOUTverizon. net...
Don't get screwed by purchasing a new Sempron CPU. They aren't new. They
are just Tbred cores rated with a different benchmark suite to give then
higher PR (model) numbers. The fact is that the Spempron 2800+ ($107)

only
runs at about the same perfomance level as the XP 2400+ ($53). And why
shouldn't it, it the same cpu, clocked at the same base cpu clockspeed.
The only difference is that all the Sempron require a default 166MHz

FSB.

XP 2400+, core Tbred B, 15x133, 2000MHz
Sempron 2800+, core Tbred B, 12x166, 2000MHz.

Don't get screwed. And tell everyone you can. I find this move by amd to
be no diiferent than GM taking a chevy and putting the name Cadilac on

it
and doubling the price. Buyer beware.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm





 




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