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  #21  
Old October 31st 03, 06:53 PM
DCstewieG
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Stop saying site! It's cite!!

"-= Ratz O. Fratzo =-" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:25:07 -0000, "rstlne" .@. wrote:

Well, site them.



http://www.dansdata.com/images/io009/busted500.jpg
Google it yourself
If 1 clip never broke then mfgr's wouldnt have switch'd to using all 3

lugs

You said you could site several instances. So site them. If you
can't, I understand why.






*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·- Ratz O. Fratzo



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Old October 31st 03, 07:17 PM
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DCstewieG wrote:
Stop saying site! It's cite!!


You sure? You got a webcite with a site?

:-P

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Old October 31st 03, 09:22 PM
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"-= Ratz O. Fratzo =-" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:25:07 -0000, "rstlne" .@. wrote:

Well, site them.



http://www.dansdata.com/images/io009/busted500.jpg
Google it yourself
If 1 clip never broke then mfgr's wouldnt have switch'd to using all 3

lugs

You said you could site several instances. So site them. If you
can't, I understand why.


http://www.overclockers.com/tips284/

Look
Your a ****ing nobhead, Aight, If you aint ever heard of it or seen it, it
doesnt mean it's true.
google it yourself


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Old October 31st 03, 09:24 PM
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"Buffalo" wrote in message
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"Ben Pope" wrote in message
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Buffalo wrote:
To add to the other replies.
If the heatsink/fan fails on an AMD, it will most like 'fry' and be
ruined.


How can a heatsink fail?


Technically, a heatsink most likely will not fail.
How? Not properly installed (tilted) by someone who is doing their own

work.
Accidental dropping or jarring the PC?
Clip failure.
The main point is, an Intel cpu will throttle 'down' while an AMD will

burn
'up'.
Don't get so damn picky.
I am just trying to give the OP more info.
Yes, I should have stated it differently. Probably something like "If the
cpu cooling system fails................"



Dont take any harm by it
He's just a damn picky fellah "british ego ya know"
he's like that to everyone, it probably means he likes ya heh


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Old October 31st 03, 09:31 PM
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rstlne wrote:
Dont take any harm by it
He's just a damn picky fellah "british ego ya know"
he's like that to everyone, it probably means he likes ya heh



Just prefer to get the facts across... there's too much misinformation about
and I like to straighten it out.

My intent is not to offend, maybe I should add more smileys or dress it up a
little nicer... but I prefer to be precise and concise. :-)

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  #26  
Old October 31st 03, 10:19 PM
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Gah!! My head!!!

www.dikshinarry.cahm/?word=cite ;-)

"Ben Pope" wrote in message
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DCstewieG wrote:
Stop saying site! It's cite!!


You sure? You got a webcite with a site?

:-P

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  #27  
Old October 31st 03, 11:04 PM
-= Ratz O. Fratzo =-
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:22:06 -0000, "rstlne" .@. wrote:


Look
Your a ****ing nobhead, Aight, If you aint ever heard of it or seen it, it
doesnt mean it's true.
google it yourself


It's an urban legend that was started because of the pseudo science
mass marketed to everyone by Tom's Hardware. Heatsinks don't just
fall off while people are using their computers.

If you treat your computer like UPS treats packages, yes there's a
possibility that it could happen. But only ****ing nobheads treat
they're computer like that, right? You are just as likely to break
other things in the box like drives.

Do the tabs on the ZIF socket break? Yes, we've all seen them or seen
pictures or read of experiences. But any I've read of broke when the
user was installing or uninstalling the heatsink, not while they were
playing Quake 3.

As another poster said, it's not even worth mentioning that AMD
doesn't build in protection against a circumstance will likely never
occur to the vast majority of users, especially if they install and
remove heatsinks correctly.

Can the gas tank of your automobile rupture and explode like a box of
dynamite in a rear end collision? Yes, I suppose it's technically
possible. Will it happen? Likely not. Will you stop driving or
riding in cars because of this possibility and ride a bicycle instead?
Probably not. So let's put an end to the sizzling CPU urban legend.
You are much more likely to experience a fan failure than you are ever
to experience your heatsink falling off. In that event, you still
have passive cooling. Your computer's likely to ring alarms and or
lockup, causing you to investigate the cause of the problem. And
while we're drawing analogies to automobiles?

How many miles does the typical person get out of an automobile before
the engine goes tits up? How many years for the typical CPU? Keeping
in mind the cost of a replacement CPU and or motherboard, is this
really an issue? If my CPU turned into burnt toast and took the mobo
with it tomorrow, I could get a CPU twice as fast for $90 and a better
mobo for $80. I'd call that cause for celebration because I'd have an
excuse to spend the money, finally getting a faster computer.

And to the spelling police, im sarry i insighted such raje in you by
mispeling syte. ill nver doit agen.









*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·- Ratz O. Fratzo
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Old November 1st 03, 11:55 AM
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-= Ratz O. Fratzo =- wrote in message . ..
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:49:20 -0000, "rstlne" .@. wrote:

The clips can break and it can fall off..
Granted for most users this doesnt apply as they dont move their computer
around the world


Can you site a single instance of this happening?

*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·- Ratz O. Fratzo


Well, I was working late the other night and unknown to me, there was
an armed robbery going on next door. The police were tipped off and
arrived with sirens wailing. The robber panicked and let off a wild
shot. The bullet came in through my window and hit the wall. Pieces of
plaster flew off and one particularly hard piece zipped into my
computer whose cover I'd taken off earlier to install some additional
RAM. That bit of plaster hit the locking spring of my heatsink at just
the right (or wrong) angle and took it off. I also happened to have
the Asus C.O.P. off and oh, woe is me, my 2000+ fried... :-)

Oh well, I now have an excuse to buy a 3000+ Barton and possibly an
Asus A7N8X.
Just kidding.
  #29  
Old November 2nd 03, 12:43 AM
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I have never seen a socket clip "break off". I have been a Network admin for
a mid size company (200+ nodes) for about 3 years and never have I ever seen
a fan fall off.
"rstlne" .@. wrote in message
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"-= Ratz O. Fratzo =-" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:25:07 -0000, "rstlne" .@. wrote:

Well, site them.


http://www.dansdata.com/images/io009/busted500.jpg
Google it yourself
If 1 clip never broke then mfgr's wouldnt have switch'd to using all 3

lugs

You said you could site several instances. So site them. If you
can't, I understand why.


http://www.overclockers.com/tips284/

Look
Your a ****ing nobhead, Aight, If you aint ever heard of it or seen it, it
doesnt mean it's true.
google it yourself




  #30  
Old November 2nd 03, 01:22 AM
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"Scud Roker Jr" wrote in message
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I have never seen a socket clip "break off". I have been a Network admin

for
a mid size company (200+ nodes) for about 3 years and never have I ever

seen
a fan fall off.
"rstlne" .@. wrote in message


The network admin we had at my company was pretty old and he had to send
pc's out when the power supplys went, it was above his level. (Network) was
the key word in his role....


That was him and everyone is different.. I am sure this happens or you
wouldnt be able to buy the lug repair kits. I would guess that it happens
to people who frequent lan party's, and probably people who move on a
regular basis, I used to drive my pc about 10 miles every saturday for a
small lan party and given the weight, size, and pressure of todays hsf's
then I would say an inproper install or even thousands of miles would cause
it to crack and break.



 




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