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Old July 17th 20, 03:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_3_]
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Default General ramblings (with some Linux flavouring). (Was: Linux founder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions' and 'start fixing real problems')

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 22:35:33, T wrote:
[]
It is the apps the customer cares about. They could


couldn't

care less if they were run int Flying Zucchini OS, if
it ran their apps.

[]
I know "could care less" is the US version of this expression, but it's
inaccurate. Think about it: if you could care less, that implies that
you do care a little - which is not what you mean; you actually mean
"couldn't care less".
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  #42  
Old July 17th 20, 05:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default Linux founder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions' and 'start fixing real problems'

Andy Burns wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

You don't get a GUI desktop, like Gnome or KDE.


Not this year (unless you install an X11 server within windows


Having mentioned it, I thought I'd better try it ...

I already have WSL2 and Fedora32 installed, so I installed VcXsrv on my
Win10, and then tries xeyes which runs fine, glxgears which runs so fast
that the gears almost look stationary, and thunderbird.
  #43  
Old July 17th 20, 05:31 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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Default Linux founder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions' and 'start fixing real problems'

In article , wrote:

Also, the recent computer science grads I have come
across make my head spin.


as well they should. technology changes rapidly to where anyone's head
will spin, including theirs.

They know virtually nothing
about computers or programming. Seriously, they barely
know what a mouse is.


what does knowing what a mouse is have to do with knowledge of
computers or programming?

And they are in debt up to the
asses with student loans.


most college students do.
  #44  
Old July 17th 20, 05:31 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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In article , J. P. Gilliver (John)
wrote:

I remember - I _think_ it was in the last decade, but it might have been
more - being startled when I spoke to a young computing graduate, to
find he'd never done any assembler. At that time, after my initial
double-take, I thought to myself: the field is big enough, that there'll
be plenty of room for him, and in practice he'll probably never have any
trouble finding interesting and well-paid employment.


there is no need for assembler anymore, except in very rare
circumstances.
  #45  
Old July 17th 20, 08:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Char Jackson
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Default OT: Disable line wrap for long lines (was Linux founder tells Intel to stop ...)

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:10:26 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

With some newsreaders, such as my old copy of Agent 2.0, brackets
aren't a workaround for a deficient client. They are simply markers
to let the composition window know that the configured line length
value should be ignored for text between the brackets.


Ah, it's a sender's client trick to prevent line breaks. Understood.
In my NNTP client, I don't need to do that for URLs as they kept intact
in one physical line; however, it does have a Word Wrap toggle that I
can click to insert a composition marker (not in the sent copy) to keep a long string from line wrapping. I use it occasionally, like for a wide data table where line wrapping makea it unintelligible. (I used it on this line as an example.)
It keeps the long string as one long physical line. The reader's client
might enforce line splitting at their configured line length. Nothing I
can do about that. My tricks sounds similar to your bracketing trick.


Agreed. When composing a post with a long URL, we use whatever 'trick' or
method that particular client allows or requires in order to override the
configured line length. For me it's angle brackets and for you it could be
the word wrap toggle.

With my client, the angle bracket method only works in specific
circumstances. For example, it seems to require the "http://" string or the
"www." string, and I'm not sure what else. With my client, the angle
brackets become part of the post, and thus travel with the post. In your
case, there's nothing added to the post and thus nothing extra travels with
the post.

Note that some clients don't require any of this, from what I hear. They
simply recognize URLs and do the right thing, not just during composition
but also during subsequent reading, even when URLs are split across lines.
When my client encounters a split URL, it doesn't recognize the entire URL
and requires me to remove the line break(s) and any quote markers. That's
easy to do, but it's not automatic.

However, I've seen those long strings in a long line include the angle
brackets. They might be a hint in the composition window in the
sender's client, but they were also included in the sent copy.


That's exactly how my client does it. The angle brackets become part of the
message.

As a
test, could you reply with a long string, like 200 characters, enclosed
in your non-wrap markers, so I could see if the submitted copy has the
non-wrap markers or not?


If it's regular text with spaces and no http:// or www. string, then angle
brackets aren't going to do anything special here. They would just be
included as text in the post. To do your test, I would have to use the left
angle bracket, either of the two URL markers, (there may be others that I
don't know), followed by text without spaces, (for me, a space marks the
end of a URL), ending with a right angle bracket.

Example:
www.To%20do%20your%20test,%20I%20would%20have%20t o%20use%20the%20left%20angle%20bracket,%20either%2 0of%20the%20two%20URL%20markers,%20(there%20may%20 be%20others%20that%20I%20don't%20know),%20followed %20by%20text%20without%20spaces,%20(for%20me,%20a% 20space%20marks%20the%20end%20of%20a%20URL),%20end ing%20with%20a%20right%20angle%20bracket.

That should post as a single line, but what happens in anyone's client when
they retrieve and view it is out of my hands.

  #46  
Old July 17th 20, 08:49 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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Default General ramblings (with some Linux flavouring). (Was: Linuxfounder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions' and 'start fixingreal problems')

On 2020-07-17 07:55, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I know "could care less" is the US version of this expression, but it's
inaccurate. Think about it: if you could care less, that implies that
you do care a little - which is not what you mean; you actually mean
"couldn't¬*care¬*less".


Interesting, so the one with the double negative is the correct one. My
publik skool education really sucked.

Also interesting, in America we say "that horse is different
FROM that one". In the UK they say "that horse is different
TO that one". Or so the shows from the UK on Netflix use it.

You will find this 5:49 video very interesting. This is
Simon Wistler, my fourth favorite Brit:

The Truth About the Split Infinitive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc3cgdjUWI8

One of my customers just hired a English grad. To make
small talk with her, I asked her for her take on the
Split Infinitive. I could tell she barely knew
what I was talking about. I quickly changed the
subject as I could tell it made her uncomfortable


  #47  
Old July 17th 20, 08:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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Default Linux founder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions'and 'start fixing real problems'

On 2020-07-17 06:45, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-07-17 12:36 a.m., T wrote:
On 2020-07-16 14:04, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-07-16 1:35 p.m., T wrote:
On 2020-07-15 11:42, VanguardLH wrote:
Is Linus
even a gamer?¬* Oh wait, yeah, not that big a selection for Linux.

Linux is not tied with Windows for gaming.¬* Take
a gander at:

Fedora 31 | Features, Gaming, and New Daily Driver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P8oBlOTBho

You make joke, Yes?¬* :-)

Rene


Did you watch the video?



I think I slept through the best parts.

Rene


He is a bit of a blow hard. But he does provide
great information at times. I got "Debloat 10"
from him. It does perk up Windows 10.

  #48  
Old July 17th 20, 08:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Char Jackson
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Default General ramblings (with some Linux flavouring). (Was: Linux founder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions' and 'start fixing real problems')

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:55:00 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 22:35:33, T wrote:

[]
It is the apps the customer cares about. They could


couldn't

care less if they were run int Flying Zucchini OS, if
it ran their apps.

[]
I know "could care less" is the US version of this expression, but it's
inaccurate. Think about it: if you could care less, that implies that
you do care a little - which is not what you mean; you actually mean
"couldn't care less".


Please don't attribute that mangled expression to all of us over here.

  #49  
Old July 17th 20, 08:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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Default Linux founder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions'and 'start fixing real problems'

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-07-17 12:36 a.m., T wrote:


Did you watch the video?


I think I slept through the best parts.

Rene


It's a totally different experience if you youtube-dl it,
then scroll through the boring parts. fedora.mkv 148,284,273 bytes

This streaming idea is never going to catch on.

And nobody will ever need more than 640K.

Paul
  #50  
Old July 17th 20, 10:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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Default Linux founder tells Intel to stop inventing 'magic instructions' and 'start fixing real problems'

On 2020-07-17 00:54, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:
No initiative, no talent for testing, and poor writing skills.


I have the poor writing skills myself. I am a product of America's
Publik Skool system. Fortunately I have lots of talent and initiative.
My wife taught me to write in college.
Publik Skool taught "look see" instead of "phonics". I swear
at times I have to look at my drivers license in order to
spell my name correctly.

And college was no better. The English department taught "Creative
Writing". And they frequently made fun of the
sports department. Pardon me, but the odds of me
being a successful novel writer are worse than me trying
out and being accepted by the Green Bay Packers!

Fortunately, the business department threw a required
by engineers course in business writing. ON MY GOD!
I nearly lost 15 pounds in the course. It was the
hardest course I took. And years and years later,
the most useful course I took. My final exam was a
50 page proposal for my senior project that both
the teacher and my engineering counselor graded
and divided in half. About killed me.

I remember someone remarking that college isn't about training their
students for a particular job. It's to train them on how to learn.


In America it is looked at differently. In engineering,
you only learn about 15% of what you need to know
from college. The rest you learn on the job. What
the engineering degree tells your employer is
that your are will and capable of starting a long term
project that involves considerable personal hardship
and stick it through to the end. They can count
on you to tackle a project and finish it. You
are not a snow flake.

I was lucky that I went to a "teaching" university,
rather than a "research" university. My university
had a lab for every engineering course, except
for the ones with two labs. We were highly sought
after by industry because we knew which end of the
soldering iron was hot and hit the ground running.
I was told several times by scouts that our
teaching university cut two years off of the training
time required to get a research grad up to speed.

The computer grad I spoke of was from a research
university (UCLA).

One of my customers had her niece with a recent
degree in architecture come work for her.
She could not read a blue print. On questioning,
she said what she learned about was a bunch of
pretty buildings. Her's was a research university
too.

Do you know if your interns came from a teaching or
a research university?

 




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