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Old October 2nd 09, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Anton Kolakov
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For some reason Windows update is offering people to install an ATI
driver and claiming it is an important update instead of optional. I
already have latest driver so there is no way I need this driver. If you
have auto-update on, which I don't, it will install automatically which
has happened to a few people already. The drivers at Windows update do
not have OpenGL driver so if you have any games that use OpenGL and this
update installs you will have to mess around with installing ATI
download driver again.
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Old October 3rd 09, 09:20 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Benjamin Gawert
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* Anton Kolakov:
For some reason Windows update is offering people to install an ATI
driver and claiming it is an important update instead of optional. I
already have latest driver so there is no way I need this driver. If you
have auto-update on, which I don't, it will install automatically which
has happened to a few people already. The drivers at Windows update do
not have OpenGL driver so if you have any games that use OpenGL and this
update installs you will have to mess around with installing ATI
download driver again.


I noticed the same problem, Windows update installed an older driver
(identified as Catalyst 9.7 by CCC) when I had 9.9 already installed, so
I had to reinstall 9.9 afterwards.

It doesn't seem to be limited to ATI drivers. On my laptop with Nvidia
gfx I was offered an older driver as "critical update" today.

Ben

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Old October 3rd 09, 10:25 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Eric Shune
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"Benjamin Gawert" wrote in message
...
* Anton Kolakov:
For some reason Windows update is offering people to install an ATI
driver and claiming it is an important update instead of optional. I
already have latest driver so there is no way I need this driver. If you
have auto-update on, which I don't, it will install automatically which
has happened to a few people already. The drivers at Windows update do
not have OpenGL driver so if you have any games that use OpenGL and this
update installs you will have to mess around with installing ATI download
driver again.


I noticed the same problem, Windows update installed an older driver
(identified as Catalyst 9.7 by CCC) when I had 9.9 already installed, so I
had to reinstall 9.9 afterwards.

It doesn't seem to be limited to ATI drivers. On my laptop with Nvidia gfx
I was offered an older driver as "critical update" today.

Ben


I have never been offered drivers, even when running much older versions.


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Old October 3rd 09, 02:23 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Anton Kolakov
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Eric Shune wrote:

I have never been offered drivers, even when running much older versions.



Probably because you turned off the option to show optional updates. The
problem now is that Microsoft has flagged them as critical updates,
which they are not. If you run update now you should see the video
driver update unless Microsoft has fixed their gaff already.
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Old October 3rd 09, 04:50 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
First of One[_2_]
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Automatic Updates is one of the first things I disable after installing
Windows, along with about 20 other useless Windows Services.

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Anton Kolakov" wrote in message
...
For some reason Windows update is offering people to install an ATI driver
and claiming it is an important update instead of optional. I already have
latest driver so there is no way I need this driver. If you have
auto-update on, which I don't, it will install automatically which has
happened to a few people already. The drivers at Windows update do not
have OpenGL driver so if you have any games that use OpenGL and this
update installs you will have to mess around with installing ATI download
driver again.



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Old October 5th 09, 02:37 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Anton Kolakov
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First of One wrote:
Automatic Updates is one of the first things I disable after installing
Windows, along with about 20 other useless Windows Services.

Me too, but I installed MSSE on XP and Win7 today and Microsoft thought
it would be a good idea to turn auto-updates back on without notifying
me it would. Soon turned it off again though. I know when to check for
updates and I even turn off auto-updates in AV software which might not
be a good idea for some people but I manually have it check for updates
daily.
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Old October 5th 09, 04:51 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
First of One[_2_]
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Checking for AV updates daily is really overkill. :-) I update my Avira
Antivir definitions once a month and I download all kinds of cracks and
no-CD patches without infection.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Anton Kolakov" wrote in message
...
First of One wrote:
Automatic Updates is one of the first things I disable after installing
Windows, along with about 20 other useless Windows Services.

Me too, but I installed MSSE on XP and Win7 today and Microsoft thought it
would be a good idea to turn auto-updates back on without notifying me it
would. Soon turned it off again though. I know when to check for updates
and I even turn off auto-updates in AV software which might not be a good
idea for some people but I manually have it check for updates daily.



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Old October 5th 09, 10:28 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Carl
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Checking for AV updates daily is really overkill. :-) I update my
Avira

Antivir definitions once a month and I download all kinds of cracks and
no-CD patches without infection.

You're lucky, perhaps I was just using a lame antivirus - Onecare, but
somehow my machine ended up infested with the Tenga.a virus. I'm running
Kaspersky on W7 64bit, ,and there are no issues with it. It has a gaming
mode, that turns off pop ups etc which is pretty neat, I think. I haven't
reinstalled everything yet, as I'll wait for my W7 to arrive in a couple of
weeks time.

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Old October 5th 09, 04:53 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Anton Kolakov
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First of One wrote:
Checking for AV updates daily is really overkill. :-) I update my Avira
Antivir definitions once a month and I download all kinds of cracks and
no-CD patches without infection.

Never heard of Zero Day virii? AV should be checked for updates every
day if you are going to bother running AV software. AV software is
usually updated every day too.
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Old October 6th 09, 11:17 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
First of One[_2_]
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A few things make daily AV software updates overkill:

- Just because a zero-day virus is in the wild doesn't mean it has infected
the file you happen to be downloading today. In fact virus propagation on
the internet takes time.
- When an AV software developer is made aware of a new virus in the wild,
they still need time to analyze it and develop the signature, so even daily
AV updates will lag behind virus threats by a few days.
- Signatures is only one means of detecting viruses, the other being
heuristics.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Anton Kolakov" wrote in message
...
First of One wrote:
Checking for AV updates daily is really overkill. :-) I update my Avira
Antivir definitions once a month and I download all kinds of cracks and
no-CD patches without infection.

Never heard of Zero Day virii? AV should be checked for updates every day
if you are going to bother running AV software. AV software is usually
updated every day too.




 




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