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A little balance? What will balance the huge number of Intel ads that people are bombarded with? What's stopping AMD from advertising like Intel does? -Dave |
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"JK" wrote in message ... Experts? How do you know they are experts? Do they work for Intel? Well YOU think they are experts, so it's odd that you'd ask me for roof. -Dave |
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That is like saying that one should buy a Ford car since Ford made the model T.
There are companies that are much younger than Ford that make very high quality vehicles. Ruel Smith wrote: JK wrote: Why is it that people who claim Intel chipsets are more stable, never provide statistical proof to back up their statements? Perhaps it might be that they can't find any. I don't have any statistical data to back it up, but I can believe it. Many technologies on the motherboard are Intel technologies, like the PCI bus. It stands to reason that since they invented it and have honed it over the years that they have a rock solid implementation of it. Their reputation over such technolgies depends on it. |
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Dave C. wrote:
Intel is better than AMD, at the moment.**The*only*way*AMD*could*change that would be to drop their prices by 30% or better. Yeah, those nuclear reactor Prescotts with the flip-flop socket design that screws up the pins really is just light years ahead of the Athlon FX CPUs with their on-die memory controllers and unlocked multipliers... I'm just dying to get one... NOT! My next system will be AMD Athlon 64/FX and hopefully dual-core. I recently built my first AMD Athlon XP system and it went smooth. Pretty fast and stable system for about $400. BTW... We have yet to see where Athlon 64 stands as we've yet to be able to test it in a real 64 bit environment with 64 bit software. Expect AMD to smoke the current P4's... |
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When AMD gets over 50% cpu market share, AMD might or might not
advertise the way Intel did in the 1990s. Until then, Intel's ad budget will be very many times that of AMD. "Dave C." wrote: A little balance? What will balance the huge number of Intel ads that people are bombarded with? What's stopping AMD from advertising like Intel does? -Dave |
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In article , Franklin says...
I came across this. Is the guy right? WAS right... Intel chipsets did enjoy a very good level of stability on WINDOWS due to what was pretty much a marriage between Intel and Microsoft however things have moved on. -- Conor Opinions personal, facts suspect. |
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It was much more of a contest then then. Now AMD is beating Intel in desktop performance by such a large margin. Geez, it's gonna be a long century. -Dave Gaming: OpenGL: The Intel chips are much faster Gaming: DX8: The AMD chips are faster, no doubt about it Gaming: DX9: It's virtually a tie, as the AMD chips are two to three TENTHS of a percentage point faster than Intel. So on the gaming benchmarks, that's one win for Intel, one win for AMD and one tie. GAMING OVERALL: TIED Business Applications: Office Applications: Intel blows AMD away Business Applications: Internet Content Creation: Intel blows AMD away Business Applications: Overall: Intel blows AMD away Video Encoding: This one is so lopsided, AMD should have thrown in the towel before entering the ring. Intel wins by a landslide. Audio Encoding: Again, Intel wins by a landslide Synthetic Benchmarks: (PC Mark 2004): Here, Intel blows AMD away on both *CPU* and memory benchmarks Even at the same price for CPU, an Intel system can be cheaper to build, as the P4 boards are more mature at this point, and thus there are better bargains to be found. Considering that an Intel system will likely be cheaper to build and WILL perform better on all benchmarks except DX8, it's kind of a no-brainer as to which chip to build with, at the moment. http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040322/index.html The following is an article on the Athlon 64 2800+. But more interesting is, the benchmarks included in the article are a GREAT comparison of the 3.2GHz P4 processors with the Athlon64 3200+. In this article, these two processors are pretty evenly matched, with Intel being faster on some benchmarks, and AMD being faster on others. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2038&p=1 Now lets look at what Sharky Extreme has to report in their article about the 3.4GHz Prescott processor. This one has benchmarks that are a great comparison of the 3.4GHz Intel chips with the Athlon64 3400+. Here, you have to be careful, as Sharky doesn't organize their charts in order of fastest to slowest. And on some charts, LOWER scores are better. But if you read all the benchmarks, you will again notice that the two chips are pretty evenly matched, with AMD faster on some and Intel faster on others. http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardwar...261_3329681__1 Intel is better than AMD, at the moment. The only way AMD could change that would be to drop their prices by 30% or better. -Dave, updated 10/2/04 |
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Yeah, those nuclear reactor Prescotts with the flip-flop socket design that screws up the pins really is just light years ahead of the Athlon FX CPUs with their on-die memory controllers and unlocked multipliers... I'm just dying to get one... NOT! My next system will be AMD Athlon 64/FX and hopefully dual-core. I recently built my first AMD Athlon XP system and it went smooth. Pretty fast and stable system for about $400. BTW... We have yet to see where Athlon 64 stands as we've yet to be able to test it in a real 64 bit environment with 64 bit software. Expect AMD to smoke the current P4's... Ruel, meet JK. He's in the next cubicle over. About time you two finally met. -Dave |
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Ruel Smith wrote:
JK wrote: Why is it that people who claim Intel chipsets are more stable, never provide statistical proof to back up their statements? Perhaps it might be that they can't find any. I don't have any statistical data to back it up, but I can believe it. Many technologies on the motherboard are Intel technologies, like the PCI bus. It stands to reason that since they invented it and have honed it over the years that they have a rock solid implementation of it. Their reputation over such technolgies depends on it. These days the "stability" of the chipsets is the least of your concerns when building a system. As far as stability is concerned, the minor differences between the chipsets is overwhelmed by the stability issues of many other things that go into building a system. Improperly mounted fans/heatsinks, flaky or inadequate PSUs, improperly chosen or seated DIMMs, and clueless idiots who don't take the proper (if any) anti-static measures, are just some of the more common causes of system instability. Chipset issues rank *way* down the list. -- Reply to Do not remove anything. |
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Yes, it's true in my experience. SIS chipsets are among the LEAST stable.
-- DaveW "Franklin" wrote in message ... I came across this. Is the guy right? QUOTE Volumes have been written on this subject, but suffice to say that Intel chipsets are the most stable. I do not know if this is because Intel does a better job at manufacturing their chipsets than other companies, or that software manufacturers test their software more thoroughly on Intel-based systems, since they are more popular .. more than they do on systems based upon non-Intel chipsets. Or a combination of these factors. Either way, a system based on an Intel chipset will provide you with the most stable computing experience. This is common knowledge in the community. Everyone knows it. END QUOTE http://radified.com/Articles/stability.htm |
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