Making silver on black labels

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.
Any advise on the various aspect of the process would be most
appreciated.
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Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

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From: "Geoff Mills"

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.
Any advise on the various aspect of the process would be most
appreciated.

I use a Brother P-Touch these kind of jobs. I can choose from a variety of print tape
widths and colours and using the P-Touch Editor software I can print using any font, bar
code or clip art in vertical or horizontal alignment.

http://www.brother-usa.com/Ptouch/Mo...oductID=PT2730

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Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:41:37 -0500, "David H. Lipman"
wrote:

From: "Geoff Mills"

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.
Any advise on the various aspect of the process would be most
appreciated.

I use a Brother P-Touch these kind of jobs. I can choose from a variety of print tape
widths and colours and using the P-Touch Editor software I can print using any font, bar
code or clip art in vertical or horizontal alignment.

http://www.brother-usa.com/Ptouch/Mo...oductID=PT2730


Thanks for the tip. Those machines are just brilliant and if I wanted
to do a lot of this type of labeling I'd go for one of these without
hesitation.

As it is I only want to do this one small project and as much as is
possible use inexpensive materials and the general purpose technology
I already have.


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Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:28:18 +0000 (GMT), Stuart
wrote:

In article ,
Geoff Mills wrote:

As it is I only want to do this one small project and as much as is
possible use inexpensive materials and the general purpose technology
I already have.

You think so till you've actually got one of these babies, then you wonder
how you ever did without it! g

Being a fully inducted member of the age of austerity, this is one
baby that ain't going to arrive, due to diligent family planning. g
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Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:38:12 +0000, Geoff Mills
wrote:

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.
Any advise on the various aspect of the process would be most
appreciated.


I don't know if this helps, but here is a link to a page that
sells the type of paper that you are looking for, and it has a video
of how to use that paper.
http://www.itsupplies.com/Chrome/Chr...-Sheets-CPSSAM

Talker

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:38:12 +0000, Geoff Mills
wrote:

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

I use silver Scotchmark for panel labels.

http://www.radioprogrammers.com/797B.jpg

Previously I used the white but that is a more matt surface texture
and lends itself to marking.

http://www.wiltronics.com.au/catalog...belling-system

Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

Laser only. It's not about image size, but adhesion to the surface.

It may also take some experimentation. For example, using a soho HP
LaserJet 5L gave varying results, as the silver sheet almost acts like
a heatsink so the toner temp (and hence adhesion) isn't up to muster.
I now use a commercial printing service, supplying them with the
Scotchmark and the images on a flash drive. The fuser on their big
(Fuji Xerox) machines is the real deal.

My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.

That's what I do. YMMV.

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:51:33 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:38:12 +0000, Geoff Mills
wrote:

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.
Any advise on the various aspect of the process would be most
appreciated.


I don't know if this helps, but here is a link to a page that
sells the type of paper that you are looking for, and it has a video
of how to use that paper.
http://www.itsupplies.com/Chrome/Chr...-Sheets-CPSSAM

Talker

Looks like excellent stuff for the job. Thanks for the link.
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Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:21:40 +0800, who where wrote:

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:38:12 +0000, Geoff Mills
wrote:

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

I use silver Scotchmark for panel labels.

http://www.radioprogrammers.com/797B.jpg

Previously I used the white but that is a more matt surface texture
and lends itself to marking.

http://www.wiltronics.com.au/catalog...belling-system

Very impressive and encouraging.
Do you think several coats of the plasticote spray could replace the
need for lamination? I've used lamination for some business cards in
the past but these labels are going to be in the cockpit of a micro
light plane and I'm wondering if the cut edges of the laminated paper
could be affected by moisture under some conditions. Spray might be
the answer for complete sealing.


Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

Laser only. It's not about image size, but adhesion to the surface.

It may also take some experimentation. For example, using a soho HP
LaserJet 5L gave varying results, as the silver sheet almost acts like
a heatsink so the toner temp (and hence adhesion) isn't up to muster.
I now use a commercial printing service, supplying them with the
Scotchmark and the images on a flash drive. The fuser on their big
(Fuji Xerox) machines is the real deal.

I'll use the professional service, as you suggest.


My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.

That's what I do. YMMV.

--
Kind regards,
Geoff Mills

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:29:30 +0000, Geoff Mills
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:21:40 +0800, who where wrote:

I use silver Scotchmark for panel labels.

http://www.radioprogrammers.com/797B.jpg

Previously I used the white but that is a more matt surface texture
and lends itself to marking.

http://www.wiltronics.com.au/catalog...belling-system

Very impressive and encouraging.
Do you think several coats of the plasticote spray could replace the
need for lamination? I've used lamination for some business cards in
the past but these labels are going to be in the cockpit of a micro
light plane and I'm wondering if the cut edges of the laminated paper
could be affected by moisture under some conditions. Spray might be
the answer for complete sealing.

In the example in the pic linked above, no spray or laminate was used.
As long as the toner fuses properly it shouldn't wear off any time
soon. My concern with the spray is twofold - getting an even coating
so it isn't "visible", and potential for yellowing or other
discolouration with age/heat/UV/whatever. The latter would certainly
concern me in an ultralight, but that's just my paranoia.


GM
Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

Laser only. It's not about image size, but adhesion to the surface.

It may also take some experimentation. For example, using a soho HP
LaserJet 5L gave varying results, as the silver sheet almost acts like
a heatsink so the toner temp (and hence adhesion) isn't up to muster.
I now use a commercial printing service, supplying them with the
Scotchmark and the images on a flash drive. The fuser on their big
(Fuji Xerox) machines is the real deal.

I'll use the professional service, as you suggest.

Take note that when I approached them they were a bit leery as there
was a potential risk that toner, if not properly fusing to the sheet,
would contaminate the image drum in the (leased) printer. Fortunately
they agreed to check with the F-X tech when he was next on site. He
didn't know what to make of the Scotchmark but he tried it and all was
well, so they agreed to do it whenever required. You may have to
negotiate that same peril yourself, but having it done on a "real"
($40k+) printer is certainly the way to go IMHO.

On 12/27/2011 07:19, Geoff Mills wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:41:37 -0500, "David H. Lipman"
wrote:

From: "Geoff

Hi, I'm looking to make some dashboard labels. Silver or silver-grey
text on a black background. The label body is going to be .5
centimeters high and the text 3mm high.
So far I'm guessing that the best method will be to buy some silver or
silver-grey paper and print a reversed out image with black ink.
Is this the best approach?

Also will I be likely to get away with printing such small text
legibly with my Epson Stylus DX3800 printer, or will I need to get a
laser printer for the job?

My intention is to print out all the labels on one A4 sheet, laminate,
then cut out each individual label.
Any advise on the various aspect of the process would be most
appreciated.

I use a Brother P-Touch these kind of jobs. I can choose from a variety of print tape
widths and colours and using the P-Touch Editor software I can print using any font, bar
code or clip art in vertical or horizontal alignment.

http://www.brother-usa.com/Ptouch/Mo...oductID=PT2730


Thanks for the tip. Those machines are just brilliant and if I wanted
to do a lot of this type of labeling I'd go for one of these without
hesitation.

As it is I only want to do this one small project and as much as is
possible use inexpensive materials and the general purpose technology
I already have.


See if someone in your area has an ALPS MD5000 you could borrow, with
the metallic inks. Unfortunately the printer isn't sold in some
markets any more, but for stencils, model-labels, etc. it was pretty
awesome.