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Dynamic disks - what tools for boot management and partition management?
I like the idea of combining space on more than one Win 2000/XP drive
into one logical volume using dynamic disks. But after checking the Symantec, V-COM, and Acronis web sites, their consumer-priced utilities for boot management and partition management do not support dynamic disks. Are there any programs, low-cost or open source, that do support these functions? I can't see spending $699 for Acronis True Image Server for Windows. |
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Doesn't anyone in this group have answers to these questions?
I like the idea of combining space on more than one Win 2000/XP drive into one logical volume using dynamic disks. But after checking the Symantec, V-COM, and Acronis web sites, their consumer-priced utilities for boot management and partition management do not support dynamic disks. Are there any programs, low-cost or open source, that do support these functions? I can't see spending $699 for Acronis True Image Server for Windows. |
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Norton Ghost 9.0 is supposed to support dynamic disks. It is the same
as the old Powerquest V2i Protector. Winey wrote: Doesn't anyone in this group have answers to these questions? I like the idea of combining space on more than one Win 2000/XP drive into one logical volume using dynamic disks. But after checking the Symantec, V-COM, and Acronis web sites, their consumer-priced utilities for boot management and partition management do not support dynamic disks. Are there any programs, low-cost or open source, that do support these functions? I can't see spending $699 for Acronis True Image Server for Windows. _______________________________________________ Colin Sewell Vancouver, BC |
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:24:14 -0700, SloPoke
wrote: Norton Ghost 9.0 is supposed to support dynamic disks. It is the same as the old Powerquest V2i Protector. Really? So the old "DOSish" interface is gone? Can you still run G 9 from just a floppy? (Drive Image is gone?) As much as i appreciate SloPoke's answer (and I'll drink a glass of fine Cabernet to him), it doesn't cover all my concerns. A "complete" solution also includes a partition manager like Partition Magic and a boot manager/OS install support aid like System Commander. I've already checked. Neither supports dynamic disks. --W-- Winey wrote: Doesn't anyone in this group have answers to these questions? I like the idea of combining space on more than one Win 2000/XP drive into one logical volume using dynamic disks. But after checking the Symantec, V-COM, and Acronis web sites, their consumer-priced utilities for boot management and partition management do not support dynamic disks. Are there any programs, low-cost or open source, that do support these functions? I can't see spending $699 for Acronis True Image Server for Windows. _______________________________________________ Colin Sewell Vancouver, BC |
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Winey wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:24:14 -0700, SloPoke wrote: Norton Ghost 9.0 is supposed to support dynamic disks. It is the same as the old Powerquest V2i Protector. Really? So the old "DOSish" interface is gone? Can you still run G 9 from just a floppy? (Drive Image is gone?) As much as i appreciate SloPoke's answer (and I'll drink a glass of fine Cabernet to him), it doesn't cover all my concerns. A "complete" solution also includes a partition manager like Partition Magic and a boot manager/OS install support aid like System Commander. I've already checked. Neither supports dynamic disks. Why is there the need for these 3rd party applications? Are you the sort of person who used to use all sorts of memory management programs under DOS? Try a purist's approach. It's not always necessary to use PM and its ilk. Mostly used by people who seek to complicate something that is already fairly basic by an advanced user's (which is what I assume you are) standards. Odie |
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:26:14 +0100, Odie Ferrous
wrote: Winey wrote: As much as i appreciate SloPoke's answer (and I'll drink a glass of fine Cabernet to him), it doesn't cover all my concerns. A "complete" solution also includes a partition manager like Partition Magic and a boot manager/OS install support aid like System Commander. I've already checked. Neither supports dynamic disks. Why is there the need for these 3rd party applications? Are you the sort of person who used to use all sorts of memory management programs under DOS? Yes, and I take your question as a compliment to my power-user status. Yes, and I used to have DOS-enhancers for things like history also. Try a purist's approach. I ain't no masochist. It's not always necessary to use PM and its ilk. Mostly used by people Well, how else can I change partition sizes without backing up and restoring data? If the built-in Windows administrative tools can do that, I would be more than happy to use them. As someone else in some news group said, "edumacate me." Also, I want to be able to multi-boot, but not rely on the relatively primitive facilities in Win 2000/XP. How about linux, etc. Also, a good boot manager can conceal non-active boot partitions from the active-parittion OS. With Windows multiple-boot, that is not possible, and you also get drive letter assignment tsuris. (highly technical word meaning headaches you don't wish on anybody you like. Your worst enemy, maybe ...) Imagine the tsuris with 3 primary partitions on one hard drive, plus an extended partition for data partitions. So, again, edumacate me. who seek to complicate something that is already fairly basic by an advanced user's (which is what I assume you are) standards. Well, using a boot manager or a partition manager with normal disks is pretty basic today. All is that I want to do is combine those facilities with dynamic disks. And only to have logical disk partitions that can span physical disks. Now, as you were saying ... Odie --W-- |
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"Winey" wrote in message
... Also, I want to be able to multi-boot, but not rely on the relatively primitive facilities in Win 2000/XP. How about linux, etc. Also, a good boot manager can conceal non-active boot partitions from the active-parittion OS. With Windows multiple-boot, that is not possible, and you also get drive letter assignment tsuris. (highly technical word meaning headaches you don't wish on anybody you like. Your worst enemy, maybe ...) Imagine the tsuris with 3 primary partitions on one hard drive, plus an extended partition for data partitions. I hate boot managers because they all seem to overwrite the NT disk signature, causing major boot problems for me. You do not need to hide primary partitions. Make sure you OS disk is first (Int13 order), and active the partition you are installing to. It will always become C if you run setup from CD. Other drive letters are configured in Disk Manager. |
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:52:14 -0700, "Eric Gisin"
wrote: "Winey" wrote in message .. . Also, I want to be able to multi-boot, but not rely on the relatively primitive facilities in Win 2000/XP. How about linux, etc. Also, a good boot manager can conceal non-active boot partitions from the active-parittion OS. With Windows multiple-boot, that is not possible, and you also get drive letter assignment tsuris. (highly technical word meaning headaches you don't wish on anybody you like. Your worst enemy, maybe ...) Imagine the tsuris with 3 primary partitions on one hard drive, plus an extended partition for data partitions. I hate boot managers because they all seem to overwrite the NT disk signature, causing major boot problems for me. You do not need to hide primary partitions. Make sure you OS disk is first Not so. Back in the day when I had a laptop with Win 98 and NT, I also had a third partition for my data. When I booted Win 98, the data partition was D:, which is what you would expect. But when I booted NT, the D Drive was assigned to the Win 98 program, and the data partition was assigned to Drive E: Not good. Now imagine that you have a system with 3 primary partitions for let's say Win XP, Win XP SP 2, and Win XP for "scratching around." I can almost guarantee that the presence of 3 installs, one on each primary partition, of MS Office, MS this-and-that, and other programs, will confuse the bejabbers out of most of that software. Not to mention possible confusion when installing Win XP into each partition. I think the boot managers have it right. A given installation of Windows doesn't see any other Windows (or Linux) installations unless you want to set it up that way. (Int13 order), and active the partition you are installing to. It will always become C if you run setup from CD. Other drive letters are configured in Disk Manager. |
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"Winey" wrote in message
... I hate boot managers because they all seem to overwrite the NT disk signature, causing major boot problems for me. You do not need to hide primary partitions. Make sure you OS disk is first Not so. Back in the day when I had a laptop with Win 98 and NT, I also had a third partition for my data. When I booted Win 98, the data partition was D:, which is what you would expect. But when I booted NT, the D Drive was assigned to the Win 98 program, and the data partition was assigned to Drive E: Not good. If you cannot change drive letters in NT you are pretty stupid. Now imagine that you have a system with 3 primary partitions for let's say Win XP, Win XP SP 2, and Win XP for "scratching around." I can almost guarantee that the presence of 3 installs, one on each primary partition, of MS Office, MS this-and-that, and other programs, will confuse the bejabbers out of most of that software. Not to mention possible confusion when installing Win XP into each partition. Simply not an issue if the OS is C:. |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:15:36 -0700, "Eric Gisin"
wrote: If you cannot change drive letters in NT you are pretty stupid. Eric (you related to that Ron whats-his-name guy whose every other utterance is 'clueless?') Of course I can. control panel administrative tools computer management select disk management icon That still doesn't minimize my point. You still run the very real risk of "something doesn't work as expected" because of multiple visible primary partitions. Not to mention the possibility of operator error. Now imagine that you have a system with 3 primary partitions for let's say Win XP, Win XP SP 2, and Win XP for "scratching around." I can almost guarantee that the presence of 3 installs, one on each primary partition, of MS Office, MS this-and-that, and other programs, will confuse the bejabbers out of most of that software. Not to mention possible confusion when installing Win XP into each partition. Simply not an issue if the OS is C:. |
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