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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I havethe right stick?
Jonathan wrote:
However, what arrived in the envelope was non only unbranded (which I expected - when 2Gb of RAM is £66 inc postage with the google discount, I wasn't worried at first!). On the back of the RAM is "Middle East Memory Ltd" and the email address Memory is the only thing I never buy cheap. Buy the stuff from Crucial that they recommend. I regard my time (even leisure time) as valuable; wasting hours fiddling around with dodgy memory for the sake of 10 or 20 pounds isn't worth it. ebuyer are happy to take them back as faulty, but is it something I'm doing wrong? Yes - buying Ebuyer memory. Get your money back and start again. I went through exactly what you're doing - never again Another Dave. -- change nospam to f2s in e-mail |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I have the right stick?
In article , John Jordan says...
Conor wrote: In article , John Jordan says... but with Crucial you have no way of knowing what you're going to get. Pick up the phone and ring the 0800 number... I guess that might be useful if you were trying to get single-sided sticks in preference to double sided, but it's still ridiculous that they don't put the information on their online specs. Shouldn't matter as the aim of the game is compatibility and if you use the selector tool, that's what you'll get. -- Conor Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know Ihave the right stick?
Another Dave wrote:
Memory is the only thing I never buy cheap. Buy the stuff from Crucial that they recommend. I regard my time (even leisure time) as valuable; wasting hours fiddling around with dodgy memory for the sake of 10 or 20 pounds isn't worth it. Dave, I would agree, except I'd want to go further. If you have dodgy memory in a PC, and you use an operating system that writes to media (which is sort of common), then it's quite possible for the dodgy memory to make the OS write nonsense over anything on that media. If you have data on a PC, and it's not backed up, you don't really have it. You certainly don't if the memory is dodgy. So even if your time isn't worth £20, is your data worth that much? Been there, done that, found out how good my backups were¹. I've now got ECC memory from Crucial... James. ¹ With the exception of three downloaded files (I couldn't remember what they were, so I couldn't download them), Good Enough. -- E-mail: james@ | ... and watched Richard Stallman ask one of the waiting aprilcottage.co.uk | staff whether the spring rolls did indeed spring and | whether they would bounce. | -- Telsa Gwynne |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I havethe right stick?
Conor wrote:
In article , John Jordan says... I guess that might be useful if you were trying to get single-sided sticks in preference to double sided, but it's still ridiculous that they don't put the information on their online specs. Shouldn't matter as the aim of the game is compatibility and if you use the selector tool, that's what you'll get. I don't think they take account of the DS/SS issue - I can recall a case where they sent Johannes a pair of double-sided 512MB sticks when single-sided sticks may well have worked. -- John Jordan |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I have the right stick?
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:01:27 +0100, Conor wrote:
In article .com, Jonathan says... I found the Crucial Scanner thing http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscanner/index.asp but it only wanted to recommend Ballistix sticks, or kits with parts that ebuyer didn't have. Bearing in mind the memory is going to have to go back to ebuyer, can you please let me know what to search on? I used the memory finder tool at http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/list...x?model=MD8083 which recommended a CT434183 stick, but ebuyer don't have that part. There's this, though: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/65719/rb/0 - but again, it doesn't say how many chips, just that it's called CRUCIAL 1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz 184-PIN UNBUFF 128MX64 Memory Buy your memory from Crucial. Get the stuff the scanner recommends. It is a no quibble money back guarantee if it doesn't work and it also has a lifetime guarantee. I recently bought the recommended memory for a Shuttle SN41G2 from Crucial using the selector. It looks to be the same spec as above. Whilst it worked fine I had the reassurance of the guarantee. Downside is it cost £98. I'm sure with more research I'd could have purchased suitable RAM for less than £50. I'm still trying to convince myself it was worth paying double for the no quibble guarantee. |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I have the right stick?
In article , John Jordan says...
Conor wrote: In article , John Jordan says... I guess that might be useful if you were trying to get single-sided sticks in preference to double sided, but it's still ridiculous that they don't put the information on their online specs. Shouldn't matter as the aim of the game is compatibility and if you use the selector tool, that's what you'll get. I don't think they take account of the DS/SS issue - I can recall a case where they sent Johannes a pair of double-sided 512MB sticks when single-sided sticks may well have worked. Yes they do take account of the DS/SS issue. Why do you think Johannes would benefit from having SS over DS? Do you think it makes any difference? I think you're trying to find a problem with something above your technical competency. -- Conor Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I have the right stick?
In article , Dean
says... I recently bought the recommended memory for a Shuttle SN41G2 from Crucial using the selector. It looks to be the same spec as above. Whilst it worked fine I had the reassurance of the guarantee. Downside is it cost £98. I'm sure with more research I'd could have purchased suitable RAM for less than £50. I'm still trying to convince myself it was worth paying double for the no quibble guarantee. Well when you're building systems, you only need to build a handful and have all the problems generic RAM from Scan/Aria/et al seem to always have and you'll buy Crucial every time. Generic RAM either doesn't work or fails within 12-18 months - most of that is because the cheaper stuff uses chips recovered from faulty DIMMS in manufacture. Crucial RAM is NOT that much more than generic. It's certainly within a couple of quid and if you're just buying RAM, then the lack of a £6.95 +VAT postage charge makes it cheaper. I have yet in 8 years of commercial building to have any problems with Crucial RAM whatsoever. For me, that's worth the extra money. -- Conor Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I havethe right stick?
Conor wrote:
Yes they do take account of the DS/SS issue. Why do you think Johannes would benefit from having SS over DS? Do you think it makes any difference? For DDR400 at least, the more sides or ranks you have in a channel, the less likely it is to work at SPD speeds and timings. This is explicitly stated in AMD's Athlon 64 technical specs, and is also true for other memory controllers. DDR400 was always a borderline technology. Because all recent DDR chipsets support 512mbit chip density, the 512MB PC3200 sticks with the best overall compatibility are single sided, 8-chip. Crucial just sent me 8 or 16 chip sticks at random, as far as I can tell. -- John Jordan |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I havethe right stick?
Conor wrote:
Well when you're building systems, you only need to build a handful and have all the problems generic RAM from Scan/Aria/et al seem to always have and you'll buy Crucial every time. Generic RAM either doesn't work or fails within 12-18 months - most of that is because the cheaper stuff uses chips recovered from faulty DIMMS in manufacture. Crucial RAM is NOT that much more than generic. It's certainly within a couple of quid and if you're just buying RAM, then the lack of a £6.95 +VAT postage charge makes it cheaper. Crucial charge 50 quid atm for a 1GB PC3200 stick compared to ~35 quid for an unbranded stick, so I guess it's tempting. I've been through the generic RAM business though, and I agree that it's not worth it. Other branded memory at least doesn't have the cell and PCB faults of generic memory, but Crucial has better single-stick compatibility IME than Corsair, Kingston or OCZ. -- John Jordan |
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Ebuyer unbranded memory doesn't work - how do I even know I have the right stick?
On 2007-06-17, John Jordan wrote:
Conor wrote: Yes they do take account of the DS/SS issue. Why do you think Johannes would benefit from having SS over DS? Do you think it makes any difference? For DDR400 at least, the more sides or ranks you have in a channel, the less likely it is to work at SPD speeds and timings. This is explicitly stated in AMD's Athlon 64 technical specs, and is also true for other memory controllers. DDR400 was always a borderline technology. Because all recent DDR chipsets support 512mbit chip density, the 512MB PC3200 sticks with the best overall compatibility are single sided, 8-chip. Crucial just sent me 8 or 16 chip sticks at random, as far as I can tell. I think sides != ranks. Rank is the important thing. Sides is not so relevant. Happy to be corrected. Lordy |
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