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Old September 14th 09, 11:50 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
species8350
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

Hi,

I have lots of couloured inks but no black.

I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.

Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges

Thanks

S

PS. Lexmark Printer
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Old September 14th 09, 02:51 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Al[_5_]
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

On Sep 14, 6:50 am, species8350
wrote:
Hi,

I have lots of couloured inks but no black.

I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.

Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges

Thanks

S

PS. Lexmark Printer


I like your thinking there S. I have considered doing the same thing.
I could get away with it because I'm using all dye based ink including
my black. The HPs I have use pigmented ink. I have used dye based in
an emergency and it was too thin. I had to add some glycerin to get
the proper flow. As bar as color, I know when I have had a general
leak of an HP color cart, the result was a very dark green. That would
still be acceptable for printing text just to read at home.
So you need to state the printer model and do some research on whether
the black can take the same based ink as your color. Like I always
say, it's my printer and I can experiment in any way I want.
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Old September 15th 09, 12:43 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black



species8350 wrote:
Hi,

I have lots of couloured inks but no black.

I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.

Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges

Thanks

S

PS. Lexmark Printer



Since a lot of the printers do that anyway, you shouldn't have any problem.
.......Unless you want to try to separate them back to the original colors
later on


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Old September 15th 09, 10:50 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Arthur Entlich
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

Mixing the three colors makes a color called process black which is not
very dark black.

How well it will work depends upon the inks used to cerate it. The ink
should be very clean and no have contamination which may clog the head
nozzles. Some inks may not like being mixed on a long term, and may
clot or otherwise change consistency over time, so I would only mix
enough for one cartridge at a time.

Art


If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

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species8350 wrote:
Hi,

I have lots of couloured inks but no black.

I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.

Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges

Thanks

S

PS. Lexmark Printer

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Old September 15th 09, 12:34 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
species8350
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

On Sep 15, 10:50*am, Arthur Entlich wrote:
Mixing the three colors makes a color called process black which is not
very dark black.

How well it will work depends upon the inks used to cerate it. *The ink
should be very clean and no have contamination which may clog the head
nozzles. *Some inks may not like being mixed on a long term, and may
clot or otherwise change consistency over time, so I would only mix
enough for one cartridge at a time.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
* *I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

* * * *http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/



species8350 wrote:
Hi,


I have lots of couloured inks but no black.


I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.


Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges


Thanks


S


PS. Lexmark Printer- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thanks for the responses.

Looks promising to me.

Best wishes

S
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Old September 16th 09, 12:20 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:34:56 -0700 (PDT), species8350
wrote:

On Sep 15, 10:50*am, Arthur Entlich wrote:
Mixing the three colors makes a color called process black which is not
very dark black.

How well it will work depends upon the inks used to cerate it. *The ink
should be very clean and no have contamination which may clog the head
nozzles. *Some inks may not like being mixed on a long term, and may
clot or otherwise change consistency over time, so I would only mix
enough for one cartridge at a time.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
* *I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

* * * *http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/



species8350 wrote:
Hi,


I have lots of couloured inks but no black.


I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.


Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges


Thanks


S


PS. Lexmark Printer- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thanks for the responses.

Looks promising to me.

Best wishes

S

Have you tried leaving the Black cartridge out and telling the the
printer to use the color cartridge only. It will then produce the
black from a mix of colors.

The ablity to do this is buried in the drver config usually


DJT
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Old September 16th 09, 12:10 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
species8350
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

On Sep 16, 12:20*am, DJT wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:34:56 -0700 (PDT), species8350





wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:50*am, Arthur Entlich wrote:
Mixing the three colors makes a color called process black which is not
very dark black.


How well it will work depends upon the inks used to cerate it. *The ink
should be very clean and no have contamination which may clog the head
nozzles. *Some inks may not like being mixed on a long term, and may
clot or otherwise change consistency over time, so I would only mix
enough for one cartridge at a time.


Art


If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
* *I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:


* * * *http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/


species8350 wrote:
Hi,


I have lots of couloured inks but no black.


I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.


Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges


Thanks


S


PS. Lexmark Printer- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thanks for the responses.


Looks promising to me.


Best wishes


S


*Have you tried leaving the Black cartridge out and telling the the
printer to use the color cartridge only. It will then produce the
black from a mix of colors.

The ablity to do this is buried in the drver config usually

DJT- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, and got a dark black that was indistinguishable for natural
black.

I need to use all the coloured inks that I've got, and am optimistic
on getting a dark black.

Best wishes.

S
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Old September 16th 09, 03:49 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Yes, and got a dark black that was indistinguishable for natural
black.

I need to use all the coloured inks that I've got, and am optimistic
on getting a dark black.


Fine but not if the image gets wet, as when the postie carries
your latest eBay package in the pouring rain. Many the
package when you could barely read the label.
Chromatography in a nutshell.
Pigment black stands a good chance of staying black.
Put a spot of your mixed black 1/2 inch up on a strip of
blotting or newspaper. Immerse end in water, and
watch, as the water wicks up the paper the colours
will separate out. As happens to the printed image
when it gets wet.
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Old September 17th 09, 07:53 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Arthur Entlich
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

As a quick comment, which you may have realized... if using the CMY
heads to create black, you will be using approximately 3 times as much
ink as you would by using just a black ink. Unless you wish to"use up"
the color inks, the actual costs are higher in using all three colors to
make a black ink output.

Art


If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

species8350 wrote:
On Sep 16, 12:20 am, DJT wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:34:56 -0700 (PDT), species8350





wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:50 am, Arthur Entlich wrote:
Mixing the three colors makes a color called process black which is not
very dark black.
How well it will work depends upon the inks used to cerate it. The ink
should be very clean and no have contamination which may clog the head
nozzles. Some inks may not like being mixed on a long term, and may
clot or otherwise change consistency over time, so I would only mix
enough for one cartridge at a time.
Art
If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
species8350 wrote:
Hi,
I have lots of couloured inks but no black.
I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.
Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges
Thanks
S
PS. Lexmark Printer- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Thanks for the responses.
Looks promising to me.
Best wishes
S

Have you tried leaving the Black cartridge out and telling the the
printer to use the color cartridge only. It will then produce the
black from a mix of colors.

The ablity to do this is buried in the drver config usually

DJT- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, and got a dark black that was indistinguishable for natural
black.

I need to use all the coloured inks that I've got, and am optimistic
on getting a dark black.

Best wishes.

S

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Old September 17th 09, 12:00 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
species8350
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Default Mixing Cyan, Magenta, yellow to form Black

On Sep 17, 7:53*am, Arthur Entlich wrote:
As a quick comment, which you may have realized... if using the CMY
heads to create black, you will be using approximately 3 times as much
ink as you would by using just a black ink. *Unless you wish to"use up"
the color inks, the actual costs are higher in using all three colors to
make a black ink output.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
* *I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

* * * *http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/



species8350 wrote:
On Sep 16, 12:20 am, DJT wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:34:56 -0700 (PDT), species8350


wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:50 am, Arthur Entlich wrote:
Mixing the three colors makes a color called process black which is not
very dark black.
How well it will work depends upon the inks used to cerate it. *The ink
should be very clean and no have contamination which may clog the head
nozzles. *Some inks may not like being mixed on a long term, and may
clot or otherwise change consistency over time, so I would only mix
enough for one cartridge at a time.
Art
If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
* *I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
* * * *http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
species8350 wrote:
Hi,
I have lots of couloured inks but no black.
I was thinking of mixing equal portions of CMY to form a black ink.
Am I likely to have any problems in using this ink in inkjet
cartridges
Thanks
S
PS. Lexmark Printer- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Thanks for the responses.
Looks promising to me.
Best wishes
S
*Have you tried leaving the Black cartridge out and telling the the
printer to use the color cartridge only. It will then produce the
black from a mix of colors.


The ablity to do this is buried in the drver config usually


DJT- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yes, and got a dark black that was indistinguishable for natural
black.


I need to use all the coloured inks that I've got, and am optimistic
on getting a dark black.


Best wishes.


S- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thank you.

Just on the chromatography.

I remember once dabbing the head of the black cartridge to clear to
jets. On seeing the paper later, I noticed colours. So it seems that
'pure black' can also separate.

Best wishes to all.

S

Ps. I believe that all my inks are dye based
 




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