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Old May 29th 04, 02:42 PM
Darkfalz
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Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
itself, not on the platters.

I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
back to factory defaults.

Oh they are both DiamondMax Plus 9 drives. I tried both Maxtor
utilities (Powermax and Maxblast) and neither of them had an option to
clear the S.M.A.R.T. table.
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Old May 29th 04, 04:23 PM
Joep
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"Darkfalz" wrote in message
om...
Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
itself, not on the platters.

I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
back to factory defaults.


And then sell it as brand new? No 'hours run', 'spin ups' and all that. If a
disk is running okay, doesn't mean all smart values have to be set back to
start.

If you want to reset smart data, you either don't get what smart is about,
or you have bad intentions.

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Joep



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Old May 29th 04, 07:50 PM
Folkert Rienstra
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"Darkfalz" wrote in message om...
Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
itself, not on the platters.

I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
back to factory defaults.

Oh they are both DiamondMax Plus 9 drives. I tried both Maxtor
utilities (Powermax and Maxblast) and neither of them had an option to
clear the S.M.A.R.T. table.


Gee, wonder why that is.
Next you are going to complain why the won't remove drive passwords either.
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Old June 1st 04, 01:15 PM
Darkfalz
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"Joep" j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l wrote in message -service-com...
"Darkfalz" wrote in message
om...
Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
itself, not on the platters.

I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
back to factory defaults.


And then sell it as brand new? No 'hours run', 'spin ups' and all that. If a
disk is running okay, doesn't mean all smart values have to be set back to
start.

If you want to reset smart data, you either don't get what smart is about,
or you have bad intentions.


That's not the reason at all. I just added a second HD and just wanted
to reset the first one so that they both appeared of equal age *to
me*. I am just kind of obsessed with "defaults" or things being
equal... I guess it's a mild OCD. Thank you for jumping to a stupid
conclusion. Only an idiot would buy a second hand HDD anyway (well,
unless they need a small one for a 486 box or something).
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Old June 2nd 04, 06:06 PM
Chris
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"Folkert Rienstra" wrote in message ...
"Darkfalz" wrote in message om...
Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
itself, not on the platters.

I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
back to factory defaults.

Oh they are both DiamondMax Plus 9 drives. I tried both Maxtor
utilities (Powermax and Maxblast) and neither of them had an option to
clear the S.M.A.R.T. table.


Gee, wonder why that is.
Next you are going to complain why the won't remove drive passwords either.


No, there's no way. Certain attributes (temperature for example) will
increase back up to 100 (or whatever the manufacturer uses as maximum)
but the lowest ever value is logged forever in "Worst". Some
attributes (such as power on time) can only come down.
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Old June 12th 04, 03:10 PM
Joep
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"Darkfalz" wrote in message
om...
"Joep" j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l wrote in message

-service-com...
"Darkfalz" wrote in message
om...
Hello. Is there any utility to reset the S.M.A.R.T. table for enabled
hard disks? I assume this is stored on some NVRAM on the HD PCB
itself, not on the platters.

I'm not having any problems with my drives, I'd just like them set
back to factory defaults.


And then sell it as brand new? No 'hours run', 'spin ups' and all that.

If a
disk is running okay, doesn't mean all smart values have to be set back

to
start.

If you want to reset smart data, you either don't get what smart is

about,
or you have bad intentions.


That's not the reason at all. I just added a second HD and just wanted
to reset the first one so that they both appeared of equal age *to
me*. I am just kind of obsessed with "defaults" or things being
equal... I guess it's a mild OCD. Thank you for jumping to a stupid
conclusion. Only an idiot would buy a second hand HDD anyway (well,
unless they need a small one for a 486 box or something).


That's like resetting the milage of a car - it ran 100.000 but it's as good
as new, so why not reset it to zero ... Your 2 drives are not equal of age.
Period. I jumped to this conclusion because of the stupidness of the
question.

--
Joep


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Old July 7th 04, 07:05 PM
djn
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Hmmm, this is an old thread but I just found it while Googling.

I understand that there are 'bad' reasons for wanting to reset SMART
data, but there is, at least, one good reason. The reason is that
SMART isn't perfect. Evidence for this is the fact that Maxtor have a
utility for one of their drives which resets a specific attribute
because triggers too early.

In my case I have an issue with a Maxtor drive on the same attribute,
but sadly the utility won't reset it for me. My problem is that the
drive is failing on the "spin up count" attribute. When I run
Spinrite I'm told that I should back up my data because drive failure
is 'Imminent'. My SMART monitoring software gives me frequent
warnings about the same thing. The problem is that these utilities
have been giving these warnings for nearly two years and the drive
has worked perfectly. It's not used as a 'main' drive and I only use
it for transitory storage, but I don't see why I should spend money
before I need to. I certainly don't intend to sell the drive.

Because nothing will let me reset the, clearly broken, SMART data I
have to click through warnings all the time which is very annoying.

Dave

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